Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
How embarrassing, you'd never catch me defending Cameron.
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Do you think there is a chance that Labour get in, and we get a better PM than Corbyn? Because there is still much opinion out there that he is a disaster waiting to happen.
In fact - most of the negative publicity focuses on each parties respective leaders rather than the party itself.
The thought of Corbyn smashing anyone over the head who manages to do well in life scares me more than the Labour party overall, due to the massive swerve to the left he has taken them on.
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Think that's part of the problem these days for a lot of politicians and I put both May & Corbyn in that, as I first posted on this thread weeks ago, sadly IMHO we all have to decide who we think is the least worst to vote for, or you hold your nose and simply vote local as to who you think will do the best job in your own constituency.
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Do you think there is a chance that Labour get in, and we get a better PM than Corbyn? Because there is still much opinion out there that he is a disaster waiting to happen.
In fact - most of the negative publicity focuses on each parties respective leaders rather than the party itself.
The thought of Corbyn smashing anyone over the head who manages to do well in life scares me more than the Labour party overall, due to the massive swerve to the left he has taken them on.
You see it as smashing anyone that does well, I see it as giving everyone an opportunity to do well.
I don't think Labour will get in, but if they did we would get Corbyn. I disagree with your sentiment, but in all honesty Labour cutting the Conservative majority is the best we can hope for. And if that gets rid of May the incompetent, that will be a good thing. I wouldn't mind Gove - he made promises on Brexit and would be a better bet to deliver them. Despite not liking him much - he is a better politician in every way than May. Don't you agree Damo?
I'm not really that comfortable with all the parties trying to score political points over the weekend's event and had no intention of doing so myself but seeing that snivelling, duplicitous performance from a nonentity of a Culture Secretary, Karen Bradley this morning I've changed my mind. Why btw did the Tories send out the fecking Culture Secretary to answer questions about security and the police?
Everyone should pay attention to what this guy is saying.
This government has overseen cuts to all our public services, including our police, at a level never before even contemplated by any previous government. It's real, it's happening and it has effects on us all in both the short and long term. How and why people like @Greenie Junior are considering given this government another chance on the back of May's speech yesterday is a complete mystery to me. Why not instead judge them on the preceding 7 years rather than some vague, tough sounding rhetoric to reverse the harm of the cuts that your party has made?
Our public services in many respects, not least of all the police but in other areas like our prisons, youth/community workers, probation, etc are on the verge of collapsing in places. People need to know about this and not just assume everything will carry on as before.
I've said before I am in regular contact with coppers on a social and professional basis. The general public, even in a major tourist town like Bournemouth, would be shocked at just how few officers are available at certain times.
It's horrible to think about it but had the sort of attacks we've seen recently happened on the prom on a sunny afternoon the impact would be multiple times worse than we've seen in London because the response times would reflect the resources available for policing outside our major cities. It's not uncommon for the nearest ARV in this area to be in Weymouth or Dorchester for example. Can that be right?
We have developed our public services over many decades and it's shocking how undervalued they are by society.
The UK runs a persistent structural current account deficit - without these types of very 'sticky' capital inflows from overseas, sterling would be considerably weaker than it is with various negative implications (inflation, lower purchasing power etc.).
Unfortunately the Gulf states have enormous cash reserves which they need to put to work and we should be grateful for the investment.
You have taken everything that bellend says as gospel?
For example he describes the Emirates cable car as an indispensable form of transport. He bangs on about the Shard. I know he loves it, not surprised, as it is a massive dickwaving exercise. Do we need it? Why? Is it full yet, btw? He reminds us that the Qataris own the Olympic Village. We now know that there was a different plan for the Olympic Site, including McAlpine owning the stadium outright. Last time I looked, McAlpine were a very British company. As for Harrods, its a shop. It has always been a private enterprise, and compared to say, M&S, its contribution to the British economy is minimal.
You have a good general point about inward investment, but if you claim we should be "grateful" for Middle Eastern investment based on what that idiot says, you look weak on facts, which is unlike you.
I think we're at cross purposes or at least not understanding each other.
My point is that simple economics dictates that our current account deficit has to be financed via the capital account - the currency will keep depreciating until we attract sufficient foreign capital to do so.
In an ideal world the deficit would be financed through foreign companies/governments/individuals investing in ultra long-term assets like factories or infrastructure, but if their preference is for status symbols like the Shard, Manchester City or Harrods then so be it.
Importantly don't forget about the enormous sum of UK owned assets abroad (which in turn generates investment income which helps reduce the above current account deficit).
I'm not really that comfortable with all the parties trying to score political points over the weekend's event and had no intention of doing so myself but seeing that snivelling, duplicitous performance from a no-entity of a Culture Secretary, Karen Bradley this morning I've chahcned my mind. Why btw did the Tories send out the fecking Culture Secretary to answer questions about security and the police?
Everyone should pay attention to what this guy is saying.
This government has overseen cuts to all our public services, including our police, at a level never before even contemplated by any previous government. It's real, it's happening and it has effects on us all in both the short and long term. How and why people like @Greenie Junior are considering given this government another chance on the back of May's speech yesterday is a complete mystery to me. Why not instead judge them on the preceding 7 years rather than some vague, tough sounding rhetoric to reverse the harm of the cuts that your party has made?
Our public services in many respects, not least of all the police but in other areas like our prisons, youth/community workers, probation, etc are on the verge of collapsing in places. People need to know about this and not just assume everything will carry on as before.
I've said before I am in regular contact with coppers on a social and professional basis. The general public, even in a major tourist town like Bournemouth, would be shocked at just how few officers are available at certain times.
It's horrible to think about it but had the sort of attacks we've seen recently happened on the prom on a sunny afternoon the impact would be multiple times worse than we've seen in London because the response times would reflect the resources available for policing outside our major cities. It's not uncommon for the nearest AVR in this area to be in Weymouth or Dorchester for example. Can that be right?
We have developed our public services over many decades and it's shocking how undervalued they are by society.
Sadly I can only see it continuing post Thursday.
And what about the watering down of Labour's ant terror laws whilst May was home secretary. IDS admitted this at the weekend!
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Think that's part of the problem these days for a lot of politicians and I put both May & Corbyn in that, as I first posted on this thread weeks ago, sadly IMHO we all have to decide who we think is the least worst to vote for, or you hold your nose and simply vote local as to who you think will do the best job in your own constituency.
Strangely I think that won him the leadership of the party. He appeared genuine, principled and thoughtful against the carbon copy modern politicians he faced. I think people under-estimated that appeal, much like Farage at the other end of the scale. He was up against some competent people in Cooper, Burnham and others yet they were rejected on an unprecedented scale at party level.
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Do you think there is a chance that Labour get in, and we get a better PM than Corbyn? Because there is still much opinion out there that he is a disaster waiting to happen.
In fact - most of the negative publicity focuses on each parties respective leaders rather than the party itself.
The thought of Corbyn smashing anyone over the head who manages to do well in life scares me more than the Labour party overall, due to the massive swerve to the left he has taken them on.
You see it as smashing anyone that does well, I see it as giving everyone an opportunity to do well.
No - I see creating employment and helping businesses thrive is the opportunity to do well. Then it requires people to take the opportunity, and then you have a welfare system under less pressure, so it can look after who it is meant to.
My father in law owns a business that employs 40 people and he is frankly terrified of Corbyn coming in. And that wont be the only company in that situation. Yet I would wager a guess that a lot of those staff will be voting for Cornbyn, without knowing what it will do to their employment prospects.
I'm not really that comfortable with all the parties trying to score political points over the weekend's event and had no intention of doing so myself but seeing that snivelling, duplicitous performance from a no-entity of a Culture Secretary, Karen Bradley this morning I've chahcned my mind. Why btw did the Tories send out the fecking Culture Secretary to answer questions about security and the police?
Everyone should pay attention to what this guy is saying.
This government has overseen cuts to all our public services, including our police, at a level never before even contemplated by any previous government. It's real, it's happening and it has effects on us all in both the short and long term. How and why people like @Greenie Junior are considering given this government another chance on the back of May's speech yesterday is a complete mystery to me. Why not instead judge them on the preceding 7 years rather than some vague, tough sounding rhetoric to reverse the harm of the cuts that your party has made?
Our public services in many respects, not least of all the police but in other areas like our prisons, youth/community workers, probation, etc are on the verge of collapsing in places. People need to know about this and not just assume everything will carry on as before.
I've said before I am in regular contact with coppers on a social and professional basis. The general public, even in a major tourist town like Bournemouth, would be shocked at just how few officers are available at certain times.
It's horrible to think about it but had the sort of attacks we've seen recently happened on the prom on a sunny afternoon the impact would be multiple times worse than we've seen in London because the response times would reflect the resources available for policing outside our major cities. It's not uncommon for the nearest AVR in this area to be in Weymouth or Dorchester for example. Can that be right?
We have developed our public services over many decades and it's shocking how undervalued they are by society.
Sadly I can only see it continuing post Thursday.
maybe because I can remember much worse under previous Labour attempts at Government and because I think Labour would be an absolute disaster again.
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Do you think there is a chance that Labour get in, and we get a better PM than Corbyn? Because there is still much opinion out there that he is a disaster waiting to happen.
In fact - most of the negative publicity focuses on each parties respective leaders rather than the party itself.
The thought of Corbyn smashing anyone over the head who manages to do well in life scares me more than the Labour party overall, due to the massive swerve to the left he has taken them on.
I think you may have been taking the Corbyn WWE gif a bit too seriously...
I will vote Labour on Thursday in the knowledge that they won't win (certainly not in my constituency anyway). Do I think Corbyn would make a good PM? - not really. Do I think May is a good choice as PM - hell no.
All I really want is to have a government and a Prime Minister who I respect and admire, irrespective of whether or not I agree with their politics.
I'm not really that comfortable with all the parties trying to score political points over the weekend's event and had no intention of doing so myself but seeing that snivelling, duplicitous performance from a no-entity of a Culture Secretary, Karen Bradley this morning I've chahcned my mind. Why btw did the Tories send out the fecking Culture Secretary to answer questions about security and the police?
Everyone should pay attention to what this guy is saying.
I've said before I am in regular contact with coppers on a social and professional basis. The general public, even in a major tourist town like Bournemouth, would be shocked at just how few officers are available at certain times.
It's really no different to 15-20 years ago, in fact it's probably slightly better now. Bromley borough back then at night (post 11pm) used to have 2 officers in the station and 4-6 out on the road, that was it for the whole borough. If anything kicked off at a pub/club etc the TSG were called in from the old kent road, if they weren't knee deep in punches at the Gin Palace......
I will vote Labour on Thursday in the knowledge that they won't win (certainly not in my constituency anyway). Do I think Corbyn would make a good PM? - not really. Do I think May is a good choice as PM - hell no.
All I really want is to have a government and a Prime Minister who I respect and admire, irrespective of whether or not I agree with their politics.
That isn't going to happen anytime soon.
I'd like to see an out-pouring of joyous, optimistic celebration when the Prime Minister takes the steps of Downing Street. I can only remember that happening twice in my lifetime: in 1979 and 1997. The only way that will happen again this month is if Corbyn wins a majority, the chances of which are vanishingly minuscule.
Maybe we'll have to wait for the election between May's replacement and Corbyn's. So, not at least until this Autumn...
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Do you think there is a chance that Labour get in, and we get a better PM than Corbyn? Because there is still much opinion out there that he is a disaster waiting to happen.
In fact - most of the negative publicity focuses on each parties respective leaders rather than the party itself.
The thought of Corbyn smashing anyone over the head who manages to do well in life scares me more than the Labour party overall, due to the massive swerve to the left he has taken them on.
You see it as smashing anyone that does well, I see it as giving everyone an opportunity to do well.
No - I see creating employment and helping businesses thrive is the opportunity to do well. Then it requires people to take the opportunity, and then you have a welfare system under less pressure, so it can look after who it is meant to.
My father in law owns a business that employs 40 people and he is frankly terrified of Corbyn coming in. And that wont be the only company in that situation. Yet I would wager a guess that a lot of those staff will be voting for Cornbyn, without knowing what it will do to their employment prospects.
To thrive does that business needs access to well trained staff? What kind of jobs are they? How does it affect the make of the economy? What does it add to the economy? Is there sufficient purchasing power circulating within the economy to support that business? What does that business add to the local community considering the services it uses? It is not just the end of year profits that relate to that business making the most of the opportunity, you have to look further down the line. So far the conservative plan seems to turn us in to an offshore tax haven if Europe doesn't give us what we want, not sure how that is going to help business thrive. I'm am genuinely interested to what you think the conservatives have planned other than be scared of the Trots.
I agree with you that it requires people to take that opportunity and the welfare state but everyone should be able to at least have a chance, like going to uni without having massive debts.
Printing/design business, we did banners for the Begium march, have done flyers for protest too. But basically we print most things. Owned by my brother and I who are both Charlton fans.
I will vote Labour on Thursday in the knowledge that they won't win (certainly not in my constituency anyway). Do I think Corbyn would make a good PM? - not really. Do I think May is a good choice as PM - hell no.
All I really want is to have a government and a Prime Minister who I respect and admire, irrespective of whether or not I agree with their politics.
That isn't going to happen anytime soon.
I'd like to see an out-pouring of joyous, optimistic celebration when the Prime Minister takes the steps of Downing Street. I can only remember that happening twice in my lifetime: in 1979 and 1997. The only way that will happen again this month is if Corbyn wins a majority, the chances of which are vanishingly minuscule.
Maybe we'll have to wait for the election between May's replacement and Corbyn's. So, not at least until this Autumn...
For me, 97 yes - 79 No - but I accept that there was genuine optimism on both occasions, and both Blair and Thatcher, despite their many faults, were strong leaders.
What we are facing now, with the exit from the EU and the terrorist threat, calls for real genuine leadership ability - and we don't have it.
Maybe it's a cumulative effect, but the events of Saturday have hit me very hard and I despair at what our great nation is becoming. I need to snap out of that.
I'm not really that comfortable with all the parties trying to score political points over the weekend's event and had no intention of doing so myself but seeing that snivelling, duplicitous performance from a no-entity of a Culture Secretary, Karen Bradley this morning I've chahcned my mind. Why btw did the Tories send out the fecking Culture Secretary to answer questions about security and the police?
Everyone should pay attention to what this guy is saying.
This government has overseen cuts to all our public services, including our police, at a level never before even contemplated by any previous government. It's real, it's happening and it has effects on us all in both the short and long term. How and why people like @Greenie Junior are considering given this government another chance on the back of May's speech yesterday is a complete mystery to me. Why not instead judge them on the preceding 7 years rather than some vague, tough sounding rhetoric to reverse the harm of the cuts that your party has made?
Our public services in many respects, not least of all the police but in other areas like our prisons, youth/community workers, probation, etc are on the verge of collapsing in places. People need to know about this and not just assume everything will carry on as before.
I've said before I am in regular contact with coppers on a social and professional basis. The general public, even in a major tourist town like Bournemouth, would be shocked at just how few officers are available at certain times.
It's horrible to think about it but had the sort of attacks we've seen recently happened on the prom on a sunny afternoon the impact would be multiple times worse than we've seen in London because the response times would reflect the resources available for policing outside our major cities. It's not uncommon for the nearest AVR in this area to be in Weymouth or Dorchester for example. Can that be right?
We have developed our public services over many decades and it's shocking how undervalued they are by society.
Sadly I can only see it continuing post Thursday.
maybe because I can remember much worse under previous Labour attempts at Government and because I think Labour would be an absolute disaster again.
You can remember our public services being in a much worse state than they are now or will be after another 5 years of austerity? When was that then?
The UK runs a persistent structural current account deficit - without these types of very 'sticky' capital inflows from overseas, sterling would be considerably weaker than it is with various negative implications (inflation, lower purchasing power etc.).
Unfortunately the Gulf states have enormous cash reserves which they need to put to work and we should be grateful for the investment.
You have taken everything that bellend says as gospel?
For example he describes the Emirates cable car as an indispensable form of transport. He bangs on about the Shard. I know he loves it, not surprised, as it is a massive dickwaving exercise. Do we need it? Why? Is it full yet, btw? He reminds us that the Qataris own the Olympic Village. We now know that there was a different plan for the Olympic Site, including McAlpine owning the stadium outright. Last time I looked, McAlpine were a very British company. As for Harrods, its a shop. It has always been a private enterprise, and compared to say, M&S, its contribution to the British economy is minimal.
You have a good general point about inward investment, but if you claim we should be "grateful" for Middle Eastern investment based on what that idiot says, you look weak on facts, which is unlike you.
I think we're at cross purposes or at least not understanding each other.
My point is that simple economics dictates that our current account deficit has to be financed via the capital account - the currency will keep depreciating until we attract sufficient foreign capital to do so.
In an ideal world the deficit would be financed through foreign companies/governments/individuals investing in ultra long-term assets like factories or infrastructure, but if their preference is for status symbols like the Shard, Manchester City or Harrods then so be it.
Importantly don't forget about the enormous sum of UK owned assets abroad (which in turn generates investment income which helps reduce the above current account deficit).
Well Ok, with respect it might be better if you don't quote Boris Johnson to support your point.
What the UK needs to do is to make it attractive for what you call ultra long-term investment, in which case the question is whether any major party has a plan to do that. The answer is no, IMO, because for a start they are both hell bent on Brexit, and few people (aka @Dippenhall) are arguing that Brexit will improve the climate for inward investment. The majority of business leaders seem to believe the opposite.
I would also say that you ought to question why Middle Eastern money wants to invest in "status symbols". It's "shut up" money, is it not? It is certainly happening in the Czech Republic with the Chinese. "So be it"? These things are done for political goals, and intelligent people ought to weigh them up against any perceived economic advantage.
As a side issue, does anyone here find the Emirates cable car a useful addition to London infrastructure? Every time I have seen it at North Greenwich I couldn't see a single passenger.
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Think that's part of the problem these days for a lot of politicians and I put both May & Corbyn in that, as I first posted on this thread weeks ago, sadly IMHO we all have to decide who we think is the least worst to vote for, or you hold your nose and simply vote local as to who you think will do the best job in your own constituency.
May will be a complete disaster in Brexit negotiations and that will affect our business. I have seen enough from before the election to be genuinely scared of this incompetent politician. Also, I know enough about economics to understand the benefits of growth. Only one manifesto will deliver that growth. Leading economists state this, I can't see what is so strange!
Well we need a competent one and that isn't May. Like I said, you can go back in my history and see me praising Cameron - May is a disaster and so would a tory landslide be.
Think that's part of the problem these days for a lot of politicians and I put both May & Corbyn in that, as I first posted on this thread weeks ago, sadly IMHO we all have to decide who we think is the least worst to vote for, or you hold your nose and simply vote local as to who you think will do the best job in your own constituency.
May will be a complete disaster in Brexit negotiations and that will affect our business.
And you think JC will be good at those negotiations?
Im starting to feel like Bob, it's all so depressing...... I'll be glad when the elections over and football starts again ..... then again right now I'm not particularly looking forward to another dull season.
This one is even worse! I ignore CL for the weekend and this mess is what we come back to.
F***ing politics.
"we are here to discuss...."
You are there to answer any questions the interviewer considers to be relevant on the day. Even if it's Piers Morgan.
I've seen and heard this kind of dialogue several times recently. It's worse than trying to avoid the question. It's a trend towards telling the media what the questions should be. That needs to stop, and fast.
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In fact - most of the negative publicity focuses on each parties respective leaders rather than the party itself.
The thought of Corbyn smashing anyone over the head who manages to do well in life scares me more than the Labour party overall, due to the massive swerve to the left he has taken them on.
Everyone should pay attention to what this guy is saying. This government has overseen cuts to all our public services, including our police, at a level never before even contemplated by any previous government. It's real, it's happening and it has effects on us all in both the short and long term. How and why people like @Greenie Junior are considering given this government another chance on the back of May's speech yesterday is a complete mystery to me. Why not instead judge them on the preceding 7 years rather than some vague, tough sounding rhetoric to reverse the harm of the cuts that your party has made?
Our public services in many respects, not least of all the police but in other areas like our prisons, youth/community workers, probation, etc are on the verge of collapsing in places. People need to know about this and not just assume everything will carry on as before.
I've said before I am in regular contact with coppers on a social and professional basis. The general public, even in a major tourist town like Bournemouth, would be shocked at just how few officers are available at certain times.
It's horrible to think about it but had the sort of attacks we've seen recently happened on the prom on a sunny afternoon the impact would be multiple times worse than we've seen in London because the response times would reflect the resources available for policing outside our major cities. It's not uncommon for the nearest ARV in this area to be in Weymouth or Dorchester for example. Can that be right?
We have developed our public services over many decades and it's shocking how undervalued they are by society.
Sadly I can only see it continuing post Thursday.
My point is that simple economics dictates that our current account deficit has to be financed via the capital account - the currency will keep depreciating until we attract sufficient foreign capital to do so.
In an ideal world the deficit would be financed through foreign companies/governments/individuals investing in ultra long-term assets like factories or infrastructure, but if their preference is for status symbols like the Shard, Manchester City or Harrods then so be it.
Importantly don't forget about the enormous sum of UK owned assets abroad (which in turn generates investment income which helps reduce the above current account deficit).
My father in law owns a business that employs 40 people and he is frankly terrified of Corbyn coming in. And that wont be the only company in that situation. Yet I would wager a guess that a lot of those staff will be voting for Cornbyn, without knowing what it will do to their employment prospects.
All I really want is to have a government and a Prime Minister who I respect and admire, irrespective of whether or not I agree with their politics.
That isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Maybe we'll have to wait for the election between May's replacement and Corbyn's. So, not at least until this Autumn...
F***ing politics.
I agree with you that it requires people to take that opportunity and the welfare state but everyone should be able to at least have a chance, like going to uni without having massive debts.
http://novoprint.co.uk/
What we are facing now, with the exit from the EU and the terrorist threat, calls for real genuine leadership ability - and we don't have it.
Maybe it's a cumulative effect, but the events of Saturday have hit me very hard and I despair at what our great nation is becoming. I need to snap out of that.
What the UK needs to do is to make it attractive for what you call ultra long-term investment, in which case the question is whether any major party has a plan to do that. The answer is no, IMO, because for a start they are both hell bent on Brexit, and few people (aka @Dippenhall) are arguing that Brexit will improve the climate for inward investment. The majority of business leaders seem to believe the opposite.
I would also say that you ought to question why Middle Eastern money wants to invest in "status symbols". It's "shut up" money, is it not? It is certainly happening in the Czech Republic with the Chinese. "So be it"? These things are done for political goals, and intelligent people ought to weigh them up against any perceived economic advantage.
As a side issue, does anyone here find the Emirates cable car a useful addition to London infrastructure? Every time I have seen it at North Greenwich I couldn't see a single passenger.
Im starting to feel like Bob, it's all so depressing...... I'll be glad when the elections over and football starts again ..... then again right now I'm not particularly looking forward to another dull season.
You are there to answer any questions the interviewer considers to be relevant on the day. Even if it's Piers Morgan.
I've seen and heard this kind of dialogue several times recently. It's worse than trying to avoid the question. It's a trend towards telling the media what the questions should be. That needs to stop, and fast.