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  • And his long membership of the French Socialist Party.

    I'm sure he wont look after the rich, such as his multi millionaire best man (now deceased) who 'lent' him 550,000 euros for his first apartment
  • It was like a run off between Nigel Farage and that woman who put that cat in the bin.

    Not unlike the us election.
  • So you can't be rich and left of UKIP?
  • Fiiish said:

    So you can't be rich and left of UKIP?

    Precisely
  • McBobbin said:

    Fiiish said:

    So you can't be rich and left of UKIP?

    Precisely
    I'm going to start my own left-wing party. Anyone who passes an Experian Credit Score check is immediately expelled, we only want the criminally poor.
  • Fiiish said:

    McBobbin said:

    Fiiish said:

    So you can't be rich and left of UKIP?

    Precisely
    I'm going to start my own left-wing party. Anyone who passes an Experian Credit Score check is immediately expelled, we only want the criminally poor.
    Can the Corbyn facebook crowd join?
  • Good socialist credentials from Macron.
    Earned $3.5 million whilst working for those lovely bunch of bankers, Rothschilds.

    What is French for "Info Wars Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory?"
  • SDAddick said:

    Good socialist credentials from Macron.
    Earned $3.5 million whilst working for those lovely bunch of bankers, Rothschilds.

    What is French for "Info Wars Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory?"
    L'Antisemitic Conspiracie Théorie d'Info Guerres
  • Well done to Johnny Foreigner for not electing a 4ft tall, obviously mad, comically moustached one testicled dictator.
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  • IA said:

    SDAddick said:

    Good socialist credentials from Macron.
    Earned $3.5 million whilst working for those lovely bunch of bankers, Rothschilds.

    What is French for "Info Wars Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory?"
    L'Antisemitic Conspiracie Théorie d'Info Guerres
    Nobody likes a smart ass ;)
  • Well done to Johnny Foreigner for not electing a 4ft tall, obviously mad, comically moustached one testicled dictator.

    To clarify are we talking about Nicola Sturgeon ?
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    Well done to Johnny Foreigner for not electing a 4ft tall, obviously mad, comically moustached one testicled dictator.

    Nigel Farage hasn't got a moustache.
  • Chizz said:

    Well done to Johnny Foreigner for not electing a 4ft tall, obviously mad, comically moustached one testicled dictator.

    Nigel Farage hadn't got a moustache.
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  • Good socialist credentials from Macron.
    Earned $3.5 million whilst working for those lovely bunch of bankers, Rothschilds.

    He ran against a Socialist candidate.
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb5JUQwEhy8

    Putin's planned tea party with Le Pen gatecrashed by Macron.
  • Firstly, I did not directly state that Brexit is racist. What I did say was that I do not see Le Pen as being any more racist than Farage, or Le Front National as being any more racist than Brexit. It all depends what one's definition of racist is. One mistake that British people might make is to equate Le Front National with The National Front. They are not the same thing. Looking at Le Front National's manifesto I do not see anything any more racist than the main arguments I heard for Brexit.

    You don't need me to read and translate. If you are interested read the manifesto in English here: https://www.marine2017.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/a4_144_engagements_eng_bd.pdf

    If you choose not to read this then please don't assume that you know what Le Front National is proposing.

    The question remains thereafter: 'Do you believe the manifesto and do you believe Le Pen?'

    My answer to this question is no, in the same manner as I do not belive anything Farage, Johnson et al said during the referendum campaign. Much as Le Front National would be bad for France, so will Brexit be for the people of Britain. I do believe that Le Pen is inherently racist but I do also believe that this is true of Farage (hence my initial comment). This is of course my opinion. What is not opinion are the manifestos.

    Lastly, some forecasts.
    1. My forecast is that this Presendential race will finish closer than many predict. I have watched Macron speak on TV this evening just as I did Le Pen on Tuesday evening. Despite being a Macron supporter I fear that he will appear less convincing to some of those as yet undecided voters. Le Pen has a more convincing authoritarian manner. She has also learnt to smile and also to laugh politely when under criticism. She is a formidable politician and does deserve some grudging admiration.
    2. A long term forecast: Do not underestimate the increasing force of Melenchon. He has gained huge support from the French youth. Whereas Le Front National's hard core support is the older generation, Melenchon's is the youth. The latter will only increase in number over time, and the former decrease. Melenchon may not continue much longer due to his age but this election will leave a legacy that the young electorate will continue.

    Ah yes, but in many countries like our own the youth always support towards the left and the older generations more right wing. This trend has been going on for a long time, the youth don't carry on their liberal views forever, the world of work changes people's views to be more realistic as well as more hardline. I don't think we can say the FN will die with this older generation.
    I changed, I used to be a Tory when I was young. As I got older I realised what an unpleasant bunch they were generally, and how out for themselves they were, and that most people are better off being given a leg up rather than being pushed down. I realised how the press manipulated people to suit their agenda, which pretty much reflected that of the Tories. That's my realism.
    Ditto for me (although I would never say I was a Tory). The youth of today will not become 'more realistic' because their reality will not be as yours has been.
  • Macron's approval ratings drop by ten percentage points, the biggest drop for a new leader since Chirac in 1995.

    Doesn't bode well for him. I think a lot of people voted for him purely to avoid Le Pen getting in.
  • Interesting day today with Macron's labour reforms taking shape in a 200 page document (to be presented to the unions this morning.)

    Relaxations on the hire and fire rules, caps on damages to laid off workers, cutting the unions out of negotiations in smaller companies. I predict a riot.
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  • Interesting day today with Macron's labour reforms taking shape in a 200 page document (to be presented to the unions this morning.)

    Relaxations on the hire and fire rules, caps on damages to laid off workers, cutting the unions out of negotiations in smaller companies. I predict a riot.

    I predict a "non", shrugging of shoulders, then a strike. A good hard strike.
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