Last Q&A of the season sunday: CAST - save the best to last
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Like it.Jon_CAFC_ said:Just recount the numbers of managers, coaches, players, staff revolving through the door over their tenure
Perhaps others could hum Billy Joel's, "We Didn't Start the Fire" as someone recites the lengthy list of managerial failures, crap players and the staff that have moved on since they bought the club?5 -
Katrien... I'll give you £5 if you can name all our players and managers since Roland took over in under five mins... GO!!5
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I think you are all being very optimistic if you think the Lazy Liar can get to the Valley that early on a Sunday morning.3
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Can you point to a single achievement under your tenure which demonstrates that you really are learning from your mistakes?8
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And name the mistake that you have learned from.PassItToLeaburn said:Can you point to a single achievement under your tenure which demonstrates that you really are learning from your mistakes?
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You could ask her why she apparently doesn't feel responsible or at least embarrassed for the demise of the club.1
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Ask do you have vinegar on your 10 chips?
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Surely that caption should say interpretative dance?Stig said:Don't worry Lazy Daisy...
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What strategy has the club agreed with T20K to get the missing fans back?
The drop in attendances should be discussed at length.0 -
It's called the crossed-fingers approach.andynelson said:What strategy has the club agreed with T20K to get the missing fans back?
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Letter sent to KM in advance of next QandA
Dear Katrien,
I attended the CASTrust QandA prior to the Southend game and asked if you should not consider resigning given that, as Chief Executive Officer of the club, you clearly bear a personal responsibility for the demise of the Club in many key areas over the course of the past three seasons.
I have now had the chance to reflect upon your reply. I was expecting to hear a robust defence of your record in administration of the Club but instead there was nothing from you other than that ‘it was my opinion’ (that you should resign). There was insufficient time within the confines of the QandA structure to list the full catalogue of failures which you have overseen which have of course been well documented elsewhere. However, when even a few of the most damaging were mentioned you seemingly reluctantly accepted responsibility (given that these were facts rather than opinions e.g. the club has been relegated under your stewardship, attendances have dropped alarmingly whilst you have been here). When faced with this reality you deflect away from your own culpability by the use of the term ‘of course we are responsible’ rather than accept that as CEO you are directly accountable for not only the day-to-day running of the Club but its long-term prosperity and its well-being whilst in your charge.
This reality is something you seem to struggle with and you continue to fail to recognise that your position carries with it the duty to act in the best interests of the Club. Instead, you appear always to abrogate your responsibilities and fall back on the simplistic argument that as Duchâtelet (or the major shareholder as you call him) pays the bills then you are duty bound to follow his every wish, thus performing not as a clear-thinking and progressive CEO should but in effect little more than a functionary and often reacting to criticism by citing misunderstandings or worse still refusing to accept that there is anything amiss, rather than demonstrating real leadership.
At a later stage in the Southend QandA you stated that for three years you had lived and breathed Charlton Athletic. Those sounded like hollow words and if they were true don’t you think you would have made a better job of being the CEO? The truth of the matter is that if you really had the best interests of the Club at heart you would resign so that somebody else can try to find a way forward for this Club and its fans. All you will ever be able to offer this Club are words - e.g. better tomorrows, more corners to be turned and new beginnings to be made. The reality is that you cannot hope to deliver and after three years you are taking the club backwards both on and off the field. I remain baffled that someone who is in possession of such a prestigious educational record, which has taken in not only the KU Leuven but also the Rene Descartes University and the UCL, should abandon so entirely any ability to think independently.
Your position is untenable and if you had any shred of decency or even basic business sense you would act in the best interests of all concerned (not least yourself) and remove yourself from this post to pursue a career elsewhere where your skills would be far better employed.
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Well yes but she wouldn't want her dancing to be misinterpretated.Weegie Addick said:
Surely that caption should say interpretative dance?Stig said:Don't worry Lazy Daisy...
However, should there be any ambiguity we must accept the onus is on those in attendance to recognise the benign and virtuous qualities of her choreography2 -
Thanks Coyote this is helpful as you highlight a number of things you put forward and responses.Coyotejohn1947 said:Letter sent to KM in advance of next QandA
Dear Katrien,
I attended the CASTrust QandA prior to the Southend game and asked if you should not consider resigning given that, as Chief Executive Officer of the club, you clearly bear a personal responsibility for the demise of the Club in many key areas over the course of the past three seasons.
I have now had the chance to reflect upon your reply. I was expecting to hear a robust defence of your record in administration of the Club but instead there was nothing from you other than that ‘it was my opinion’ (that you should resign). There was insufficient time within the confines of the QandA structure to list the full catalogue of failures which you have overseen which have of course been well documented elsewhere. However, when even a few of the most damaging were mentioned you seemingly reluctantly accepted responsibility (given that these were facts rather than opinions e.g. the club has been relegated under your stewardship, attendances have dropped alarmingly whilst you have been here). When faced with this reality you deflect away from your own culpability by the use of the term ‘of course we are responsible’ rather than accept that as CEO you are directly accountable for not only the day-to-day running of the Club but its long-term prosperity and its well-being whilst in your charge.
This reality is something you seem to struggle with and you continue to fail to recognise that your position carries with it the duty to act in the best interests of the Club. Instead, you appear always to abrogate your responsibilities and fall back on the simplistic argument that as Duchâtelet (or the major shareholder as you call him) pays the bills then you are duty bound to follow his every wish, thus performing not as a clear-thinking and progressive CEO should but in effect little more than a functionary and often reacting to criticism by citing misunderstandings or worse still refusing to accept that there is anything amiss, rather than demonstrating real leadership.
At a later stage in the Southend QandA you stated that for three years you had lived and breathed Charlton Athletic. Those sounded like hollow words and if they were true don’t you think you would have made a better job of being the CEO? The truth of the matter is that if you really had the best interests of the Club at heart you would resign so that somebody else can try to find a way forward for this Club and its fans. All you will ever be able to offer this Club are words - e.g. better tomorrows, more corners to be turned and new beginnings to be made. The reality is that you cannot hope to deliver and after three years you are taking the club backwards both on and off the field. I remain baffled that someone who is in possession of such a prestigious educational record, which has taken in not only the KU Leuven but also the Rene Descartes University and the UCL, should abandon so entirely any ability to think independently.
Your position is untenable and if you had any shred of decency or even basic business sense you would act in the best interests of all concerned (not least yourself) and remove yourself from this post to pursue a career elsewhere where your skills would be far better employed.0 -
It's a good letter, but we all know Daisy is chucking it straight in the bin.
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nope, drawn a blank thereCoyotejohn1947 said:Letter sent to KM in advance of next QandA
Dear Katrien,
I attended the CASTrust QandA prior to the Southend game and asked if you should not consider resigning given that, as Chief Executive Officer of the club, you clearly bear a personal responsibility for the demise of the Club in many key areas over the course of the past three seasons.
I have now had the chance to reflect upon your reply. I was expecting to hear a robust defence of your record in administration of the Club but instead there was nothing from you other than that ‘it was my opinion’ (that you should resign). There was insufficient time within the confines of the QandA structure to list the full catalogue of failures which you have overseen which have of course been well documented elsewhere. However, when even a few of the most damaging were mentioned you seemingly reluctantly accepted responsibility (given that these were facts rather than opinions e.g. the club has been relegated under your stewardship, attendances have dropped alarmingly whilst you have been here). When faced with this reality you deflect away from your own culpability by the use of the term ‘of course we are responsible’ rather than accept that as CEO you are directly accountable for not only the day-to-day running of the Club but its long-term prosperity and its well-being whilst in your charge.
This reality is something you seem to struggle with and you continue to fail to recognise that your position carries with it the duty to act in the best interests of the Club. Instead, you appear always to abrogate your responsibilities and fall back on the simplistic argument that as Duchâtelet (or the major shareholder as you call him) pays the bills then you are duty bound to follow his every wish, thus performing not as a clear-thinking and progressive CEO should but in effect little more than a functionary and often reacting to criticism by citing misunderstandings or worse still refusing to accept that there is anything amiss, rather than demonstrating real leadership.
At a later stage in the Southend QandA you stated that for three years you had lived and breathed Charlton Athletic. Those sounded like hollow words and if they were true don’t you think you would have made a better job of being the CEO? The truth of the matter is that if you really had the best interests of the Club at heart you would resign so that somebody else can try to find a way forward for this Club and its fans. All you will ever be able to offer this Club are words - e.g. better tomorrows, more corners to be turned and new beginnings to be made. The reality is that you cannot hope to deliver and after three years you are taking the club backwards both on and off the field. I remain baffled that someone who is in possession of such a prestigious educational record, which has taken in not only the KU Leuven but also the Rene Descartes University and the UCL, should abandon so entirely any ability to think independently.
Your position is untenable and if you had any shred of decency or even basic business sense you would act in the best interests of all concerned (not least yourself) and remove yourself from this post to pursue a career elsewhere where your skills would be far better employed.
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Dear Coyotejohn1947,
Thank you for your email, but it would be better expressed in the form of interpretative dance.
I cannot respond until you send me your video.
Sincere regards
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I agree. When have they ever shown an ability to cope with one major project?cabbles said:
LMFAO about the absurdity of this statement.Covered End said:
We know Keohane visited Orient last season or thereabouts, to see how they had developed their stadium.The Red Robin said:Guarantee she'll deny saying she's said anything about the Jimmy Seed. If she does then the follow up needs to ask why we sent reps to Orient.
He accepted this, at a meeting I attended.
2 weeks ago at another meeting I attended. Meire said they had no plans to develop the Jimmy Seed Stand, as the management could only cope with one major project and that is the Training Ground (or words to that effect).1 -
The question that I would love to ask if I got the chance would be
"Exactly what level of failure would be sufficient for you to believe your position to be untenable?"
alternatively you could just ask
Do you think if you had enough gerbils you could milk them and start up your own dairy?"1 - Sponsored links:
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There are so many questions, but I would really like to know why, seeing as we were not prolific in front of goal, we sold two of our top three goal scorers in January and didn't replace them with goalscorers? It would be good to get an insight on who is behind this?
There are similar cock ups in every window and village idiots would do better. I would like to know how this level of incompetence happens!1 -
We all know the answer though, Roland wants his money. Doesn't matter what's happening on the pitch - if there is any chance of cashing in a player, it is taken. Daisy is just there to sign the contracts.MuttleyCAFC said:There are so many questions, but I would really like to know why, seeing as we were not prolific in front of goal, we sold two of our top three goal scorers in January and didn't replace them with goalscorers? It would be good to get an insight on who is behind this?
There are similar cock ups in every window and village idiots would do better. I would like to know how this level of incompetence happens!
By all means, try and ruin her Sunday morning but don't expect any sensible answers out of her.
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My question would be -
I've always wanted to know if the Leif Erickson who starred in The High Chapparal was named after the Icelandic explorer Leif Erikson? Now I know the spelling is a bit different, but it's a bit of a spooky coincidence eh?
I feel if Katrien could answer this question reasonably well, then I might be able to feel that this whole season has not been another unmitigated disaster and that given another go at it, and with a fair wind behind her she might turn out all right in the end. If she fails to even understand this straightforward question, then I fear her position is simply untenable and she has to go.
( well, several people have tried sensible questions and got nowhere, I say lob in a few curve balls
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Because it ticks a boxEdgeleyAddick said:For a while now I've been baffled as to why KM subjects herself to this situation. Whether it is her fault or the owner or both, the results show it is simply not working. Why not just accept it and move on to something different, rather than allowing herself to be continually criticized and disliked publicly by thousands. It surely can't be worth it, no matter how big the salary???
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That should win her a seat on the sofa ....... giggle giggleStig said:Don't worry Lazy Daisy...
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Question for Richard Murray:
Learned from mistakes etc, we' ve heard all that ad nauseam.
What about learning from your successes, ie from Alan Curbishley? What did you learn from him about successful management, and how have you tried to implement it in conjunction with your fellow board members?2 -
He won't be there. He only turns up for East Kent Ostriches or Into the apologists and brown noses meetings.andynelson said:Question for Richard Murray:
Learned from mistakes etc, we' ve heard all that ad nauseam.
What about learning from your successes, ie from Alan Curbishley? What did you learn from him about successful management, and how have you tried to implement it in conjunction with your fellow board members?1 -
Has your ranking as a famous Belgian improved with every appointment?5
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Perhaps that's been the process from the start. Nail building a training ground, then in 2020 focus on the jimmy seed stand, then by the time we're in the ACS Joma Kent county league premier division taking on the likes of Erith 147 sports in about 2025, they will finally be ready for the first teamGarrymanilow said:
I agree. When have they ever shown an ability to cope with one major project?cabbles said:
LMFAO about the absurdity of this statement.Covered End said:
We know Keohane visited Orient last season or thereabouts, to see how they had developed their stadium.The Red Robin said:Guarantee she'll deny saying she's said anything about the Jimmy Seed. If she does then the follow up needs to ask why we sent reps to Orient.
He accepted this, at a meeting I attended.
2 weeks ago at another meeting I attended. Meire said they had no plans to develop the Jimmy Seed Stand, as the management could only cope with one major project and that is the Training Ground (or words to that effect).0 -
If only they could manage football clubs like they manage beer.Rock Spectacle said:Has your ranking as a famous Belgian improved with every appointment?
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