Lee Bowyer
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I'm interested to know where Steve Gallen fits into all of this. He's currently employed as our Head of Recruitment, but seems to have little or no background in scouting, compared with 20 years experience as a coach:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Gallen
He's also apparently just completed his Pro Licence:
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/25898/millwall-boss-neil-harris-assistant-david-livemore-gain-uefa-pro-licences-course-liverpool-legend-charlton-recruitment-chief/
No mention of him in the Bowyer article, though, where Robinson refers to "me, Johnnie and Lee."
In many ways, Gallen looks like a better fit as an assistant manager, but I'm not sure we've had one of those for a while.0 -
The topics are clearly titled, you don't have to read it!Chizz said:Oh good. Another Lee Bowyer thread. Great. Can't get enough information on the horrible, nasty, spiteful, violent, thug.
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Guest on the Alan Brazil sports breakfast tomorrow morning.0
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Understand he has a B licence.Chizz said:
Does he have any qualifications?Showmetheway2gohome said:Bowyer is unproven as a coach or assistant manager but I've got a feeling he will end up as our manager. Probably by Christmas with Roland's track record
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He was very involved in Ireland. Barking instructions at the young midfielders of when to go and when to stay back. He did have a knack of being in the right place at the right time thus scoring many goals. He has played to a very high level with some extremely good footballers so I dare say he can't have got that far without picking up a few bits and bobs along the way.
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Well said swisdom
Really happy with bowyer as a coach, loved him as a player although he obviously had his issues growing up
Him and JJ should get the best out of our midfielders,not a massive fan of JFC but think he will get better under those 2
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If anything, in terms of how they played the game, Bowyer and Jacko are a bit similar, both goal scoring midfielders when in their primeSouthendaddick said:Well said swisdom
Really happy with bowyer as a coach, loved him as a player although he obviously had his issues growing up
Him and JJ should get the best out of our midfielders,not a massive fan of JFC but think he will get better under those 20 -
Heard that Lee was on Talksport this morning. Anyone listen to it ?0
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Playing alongside Kashi rather than Crofts could also make a big difference.Southendaddick said:Well said swisdom
Really happy with bowyer as a coach, loved him as a player although he obviously had his issues growing up
Him and JJ should get the best out of our midfielders,not a massive fan of JFC but think he will get better under those 25 -
More than you at a guess.Chizz said:
Does he have any qualifications?Showmetheway2gohome said:Bowyer is unproven as a coach or assistant manager but I've got a feeling he will end up as our manager. Probably by Christmas with Roland's track record
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Link to the interview hereStarinnaddick said:Heard that Lee was on Talksport this morning. Anyone listen to it ?
.https://talksport.com/football/joe-hart-one-best-premier-league-transfer-deals-so-far-according-ex-west-ham-midfielder-lee0 -
Thanks.clive said:
Link to the interview hereStarinnaddick said:Heard that Lee was on Talksport this morning. Anyone listen to it ?
.https://talksport.com/football/joe-hart-one-best-premier-league-transfer-deals-so-far-according-ex-west-ham-midfielder-lee0 -
He is a winner no doubt about that came across well on the radio earlier, have no doubts at all that he will get our midfielders amongst the goals, shame he is a WHUFC fan though which came across time and time again.0
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Alan Brazil couldn't wait to talk about anything but Charlton.
Not a lot said by Bowyer really - just that the staff are excited to get the season underway as we look to be in good shape
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I really hope that he does well. I just can't imagine him communicating wellSouthendaddick said:Well said swisdom
Really happy with bowyer as a coach, loved him as a player although he obviously had his issues growing up
Him and JJ should get the best out of our midfielders,not a massive fan of JFC but think he will get better under those 20 -
I think two play-off defeats of his beloved Ipswich ensure that.Swisdom said:Alan Brazil couldn't wait to talk about anything but Charlton.
Not a lot said by Bowyer really - just that the staff are excited to get the season underway as we look to be in good shape
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I believe Bowyer will be the next Curbs, hopefully all the bollocks going on upstairs will end soon enough and he'll stay here, but if he does go, I've got a feeling he's going to do really well at management6
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(From the Acrrington away post match thread)
So want to get excited about Bowyer as a manager, but we are still lacking the creativity we were last season, you can talk up players all you like but in the end they are what they are and we have Marshall playing instead of Ricky Holmes which apparently was his decision, and waiting for Fosu to come back fit - again. Then there is the substitutions or lack of which is more a concern. He talks a good game, is persuasive on signings, and seems more tactically aware than Gobbo and I guess he’s still learning too in the end.0 -
"Learning too in the end" is what we should remember with Bowyer and Jackson. Hopefully they'll still be with us come the end of the season and we have had a reasonable season.
They could then build on this and hopefully be our next Curbishley and Gritt.3 -
creepyaddick said:
I believe Bowyer will be the next Curbs, hopefully all the bollocks going on upstairs will end soon enough and he'll stay here, but if he does go, I've got a feeling he's going to do really well at management
What has Bowyer actually done to suggest he is the next Curbishley?ElfsborgAddick said:"Learning too in the end" is what we should remember with Bowyer and Jackson. Hopefully they'll still be with us come the end of the season and we have had a reasonable season.
They could then build on this and hopefully be our next Curbishley and Gritt.1 -
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Does that mean one of them will be sacked?1
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Being limited by his budget is a big factor for me. In 2011 Powell could go out and pay a fee for Dale Stephens to add creativity in the middle, and added Green as a different alternative to Wagstaff. Yann on a free made a huge difference as well, players like him won’t often come along at this level.razil said:(From the Acrrington away post match thread)
So want to get excited about Bowyer as a manager, but we are still lacking the creativity we were last season, you can talk up players all you like but in the end they are what they are and we have Marshall playing instead of Ricky Holmes which apparently was his decision, and waiting for Fosu to come back fit - again. Then there is the substitutions or lack of which is more a concern. He talks a good game, is persuasive on signings, and seems more tactically aware than Gobbo and I guess he’s still learning too in the end.
He was unlucky to lose JFC for the season. It seems he still wants to add a midfielder and/or winger/striker to the squad which will hopefully add more creativity to the squad. Fosu and Clarke returning will help with that as well. Then there’s players like Aribo, Morgan and Maloney he’ll be working to develop. We could do with Aribo adding more goals to his game.
With a bigger budget I think he could put together a nicely balanced squad. Unlike KR he appears to see you need a mix of creativity and physicality, and isn’t tied down to one formation.0 -
Where's that come from? Surely Homes was sold for the same reason virtually every other talented player we've had over the last few years has been sold - to line our owner's pockets.razil said:(From the Acrrington away post match thread)
We have Marshall playing instead of Ricky Holmes which apparently was his decision
Every manager we've had under Roland has been hamstrung by the ineptitude of our owner and his senior management team, but none more so than Bowyer. Unable to name a full substitutes bench in the first three games, the team littered with kids, a backdrop of uncertainty and cost-cutting.
We look a far better side under Bowyer than we did under the scouse chancer, despite having a far, far weaker squad. He is virtually beyond criticism under the current circumstances, and we do ourselves no favours at all by pointing the finger at him. It's hardly surprising he can't make game changing substitutions - the most senior player on the bench is a striker that Katrien blew the budget on 2 managers ago and that neither of Bowyer's predecessors thought was worthy of a place in the squad.
Any discussion on the merits of managers, coaches or players is virtually irrelevant while we still have an owner who won't even stretch to bottled water.12 -
maybe the players he has are just not as good as he was......he may be expecting them to pass or shoot in certain circumstances, as it would have been what he would have done. You cant polish a turd, as they say.1
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Hopefully the transformation when he took over suggests there is potential.se9addick said:creepyaddick said:I believe Bowyer will be the next Curbs, hopefully all the bollocks going on upstairs will end soon enough and he'll stay here, but if he does go, I've got a feeling he's going to do really well at management
What has Bowyer actually done to suggest he is the next Curbishley?ElfsborgAddick said:"Learning too in the end" is what we should remember with Bowyer and Jackson. Hopefully they'll still be with us come the end of the season and we have had a reasonable season.
They could then build on this and hopefully be our next Curbishley and Gritt.1 -
I understand peoples frustrations, we need to be beating teams like Accrington Stanley if we are to have any chance of competing near the top of the league, and I understand the frustrations of the lack of substitutions, but what exactly would or could Bowyer have done differently?
The only option I can think of is bringing on Morgan and hoping he makes the same impact he did last weekend, but at the same time we don't know how fit he was as he played on Tuesday and has only recently came back from an injury. He wouldn't have brought on Ajose, that is clear that he just isn't in his plans at the moment. The options from the bench didn't give us an opportunity to make changes and mix things up.
I think it is clear that Bowyer is really wanting to get a couple of deals over the line, get them in the squad and then you also have the players currently out injured, to come back into the squad too. Once that happens, in only a little under two weeks, we should start to see more changes, a stronger squad, more creativity, hopefully more goals and start to get clean sheets.
I applaud him with the way he has conducted himself and still managed to get some form competitiveness in the team with the constraints he is under, practically both hands tied behind his back.
I would love nothing more than him to be given a chance under new ownership with people who is going to support and back him, getting in the players we need, because I genuinely think he is the man to get us good results and bring us up the division, he just needs that chance. Right now, we know the situation and all things considered, including his own admission of how poor we were yesterday, he is doing a very good job.10 -
Although perhaps you could ask, "What had Curbishley actually done to suggest he was the next Curbishley?", after Curbs first 15 games?se9addick said:creepyaddick said:I believe Bowyer will be the next Curbs, hopefully all the bollocks going on upstairs will end soon enough and he'll stay here, but if he does go, I've got a feeling he's going to do really well at management
What has Bowyer actually done to suggest he is the next Curbishley?ElfsborgAddick said:"Learning too in the end" is what we should remember with Bowyer and Jackson. Hopefully they'll still be with us come the end of the season and we have had a reasonable season.
They could then build on this and hopefully be our next Curbishley and Gritt.
In the early days, it was a learning curve for Curbs too (and Gritty).
But Curbs was given support and the time to gain the experience that made him such a good manager and Charlton legend.
In my book, Bowyer's on course and doing ok, so far.
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Bowyer is still the temporary replacement for a manager who left, joined another club and has left them. His temporary job bat Charlton has lasted longer than Robinson's permanent career at Oxford. Bizarre.2
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Lee Bowyer's been Caretaker Manager longer than Karel Fraeye was Interim Manager.
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I don't think Robinson has left Oxford yet, give it another couple of gamesChizz said:Bowyer is still the temporary replacement for a manager who left, joined another club and has left them. His temporary job bat Charlton has lasted longer than Robinson's permanent career at Oxford. Bizarre.
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