Bowyer is still the temporary replacement for a manager who left, joined another club and has left them. His temporary job bat Charlton has lasted longer than Robinson's permanent career at Oxford. Bizarre.
I don't think Robinson has left Oxford yet, give it another couple of games
We have Marshall playing instead of Ricky Holmes which apparently was his decision
Where's that come from? Surely Homes was sold for the same reason virtually every other talented player we've had over the last few years has been sold - to line our owner's pockets.
Every manager we've had under Roland has been hamstrung by the ineptitude of our owner and his senior management team, but none more so than Bowyer. Unable to name a full substitutes bench in the first three games, the team littered with kids, a backdrop of uncertainty and cost-cutting.
We look a far better side under Bowyer than we did under the scouse chancer, despite having a far, far weaker squad. He is virtually beyond criticism under the current circumstances, and we do ourselves no favours at all by pointing the finger at him. It's hardly surprising he can't make game changing substitutions - the most senior player on the bench is a striker that Katrien blew the budget on 2 managers ago and that neither of Bowyer's predecessors thought was worthy of a place in the squad.
Any discussion on the merits of managers, coaches or players is virtually irrelevant while we still have an owner who won't even stretch to bottled water.
Bowyer is still the temporary replacement for a manager who left, joined another club and has left them. His temporary job bat Charlton has lasted longer than Robinson's permanent career at Oxford. Bizarre.
We have Marshall playing instead of Ricky Holmes which apparently was his decision
Where's that come from? Surely Homes was sold for the same reason virtually every other talented player we've had over the last few years has been sold - to line our owner's pockets.
Every manager we've had under Roland has been hamstrung by the ineptitude of our owner and his senior management team, but none more so than Bowyer. Unable to name a full substitutes bench in the first three games, the team littered with kids, a backdrop of uncertainty and cost-cutting.
We look a far better side under Bowyer than we did under the scouse chancer, despite having a far, far weaker squad. He is virtually beyond criticism under the current circumstances, and we do ourselves no favours at all by pointing the finger at him. It's hardly surprising he can't make game changing substitutions - the most senior player on the bench is a striker that Katrien blew the budget on 2 managers ago and that neither of Bowyer's predecessors thought was worthy of a place in the squad.
Any discussion on the merits of managers, coaches or players is virtually irrelevant while we still have an owner who won't even stretch to bottled water.
I understand he turned down a return for Holmes
If that’s true though, no one knows why. I liked watching Holmes play and I would have liked to see him in a Charlton shirt again.
There could be a lot of reasons why Holmes didn’t fit with the team and work ethic Bowyer is trying to create.
Bowyer is still the temporary replacement for a manager who left, joined another club and has left them. His temporary job bat Charlton has lasted longer than Robinson's permanent career at Oxford. Bizarre.
Robinson hasn't gone yet, has he?
Oh! I thought he left last night! He must still be there. Poor Oxford.
We have Marshall playing instead of Ricky Holmes which apparently was his decision
Where's that come from? Surely Homes was sold for the same reason virtually every other talented player we've had over the last few years has been sold - to line our owner's pockets.
Every manager we've had under Roland has been hamstrung by the ineptitude of our owner and his senior management team, but none more so than Bowyer. Unable to name a full substitutes bench in the first three games, the team littered with kids, a backdrop of uncertainty and cost-cutting.
We look a far better side under Bowyer than we did under the scouse chancer, despite having a far, far weaker squad. He is virtually beyond criticism under the current circumstances, and we do ourselves no favours at all by pointing the finger at him. It's hardly surprising he can't make game changing substitutions - the most senior player on the bench is a striker that Katrien blew the budget on 2 managers ago and that neither of Bowyer's predecessors thought was worthy of a place in the squad.
Any discussion on the merits of managers, coaches or players is virtually irrelevant while we still have an owner who won't even stretch to bottled water.
I understand he turned down a return for Holmes
If that’s true though, no one knows why. I liked watching Holmes play and I would have liked to see him in a Charlton shirt again.
There could be a lot of reasons why Holmes didn’t fit with the team and work ethic Bowyer is trying to create.
At least part of the reason is that Bowyer wouldn't be able to pay his wages.
Henry Irving said: feedback from kit launch q & a - don't shoot the messenger
"• Bowyer commented that Ricky Holmes, who hasn’t played many first team games at Sheffield United has been in touch with the club with a view to returning. Basically, CAFC couldn’t afford his expectations of wages now he is used to that of the Championship. Interestingly, Bowyer commented that he personally doesn’t feel that we need to strengthen the attacking winger/midfield position as he has several players that can fulfil such a role"
I make him right, as much as I like Ricky Holmes and he is a great outlet, he is going to be expensive and I'd rather we bought in another centre half or experienced centre mid
That team yesterday was good enough to beat Stanley, comfortably. Decision making let us down. We will improve in time. Problem Bow had, was he had no one to change a game at 1-1. That isn’t his fault. He’s brought better players in, with the budget he’s been given from Roland.
I make him right, as much as I like Ricky Holmes and he is a great outlet, he is going to be expensive and I'd rather we bought in another centre half or experienced centre mid
He was great with us until his last ten games when he was really very poor. Were his last ten games as good as the rest of his games for us, then I’d re-sign him in a flash. But they weren’t, so I think you’d be gambling that he could find that sort of form again.
He is Rolands bitch until a time that either one of them fucks off.
I think we have some good players to come back (for this league) but since when have we ever had the rub of the green with injuries? The squad is too light in numbers for League 1 promotion challenge and the Belgian cunt is the only person culpable for that state of affairs.
Talks up Marshall too.. I guess that’s just man management then? Thing is if this continues there will come a failure moment, and people will remember him saying things like that and we only need 4 players despite 15 or so leaving etc
It's interesting to go back and read page one of this thread. Just shows how in the end, no one really knows anything. Most of this game is just guesswork and adjustment.
The win percentage stats are impressive but not a means to compare managers. Curbs got 35% because of the length of time he managed in the Premier League which was to his credit.
The win percentage stats are impressive but not a means to compare managers. Curbs got 35% because of the length of time he managed in the Premier League which was to his credit.
Agree, Muttley. Win stats might not always tell the true story of achievement.
Lennie Lawrence is another example ...... performing miracles on a shoe string in the top division in almost impossible circumstances.
The win percentage stats are impressive but not a means to compare managers. Curbs got 35% because of the length of time he managed in the Premier League which was to his credit.
It's based on the first 60 games in charge...
Gritt left in 95 so it was another three seasons until Curbs managed a game in the Premier League. Therefore the 35% win percentage would've come from games solely in the second tier.
Still doesn't reflect his abilities though does it? Seed and Curbs were our greatest ever managers and Bowyer is doing well working towards them. We don't need numbers to work that out.
Yes that's true enough but your statement that "Curbs got 35% because of the length of time he managed in the Premier League" is false.
That doesn't take anything away from the achievements of Curbs who did manage two promotions to the Premier League and kept us there for almost a decade in total.
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There could be a lot of reasons why Holmes didn’t fit with the team and work ethic Bowyer is trying to create.
Henry Irving said:
feedback from kit launch q & a - don't shoot the messenger
"• Bowyer commented that Ricky Holmes, who hasn’t played many first team games at Sheffield United has been in touch with the club with a view to returning. Basically, CAFC couldn’t afford his expectations of wages now he is used to that of the Championship. Interestingly, Bowyer commented that he personally doesn’t feel that we need to strengthen the attacking winger/midfield position as he has several players that can fulfil such a role"
But sounds likes it’s irrelevant anyway.
I think we have some good players to come back (for this league) but since when have we ever had the rub of the green with injuries? The squad is too light in numbers for League 1 promotion challenge and the Belgian cunt is the only person culpable for that state of affairs.
A football manager is an an employee - every employee is expected to serve his company with loyalty.
He gets fired otherwise.
Without Roland selling up, the manager's job is a poisoned chalice ..... or would people prefer to have no manager at all?
And of course he still has the one free hand, please can you confirm that you require both hands to de-clegnut yourself??
First 60 league games in charge of #cafc Win Rate %
58% Bowyer 34 from 59
53% Seed
47% Nelson, Powell
43% Curbishley/Gritt
37% Trotter, Hill, Lawrence, Robinson
35% Firmani, Curbishley
33% Pardew, Parkinson
28% Rayner, Stokoe
25% MacFarlane
22% Foley
https://twitter.com/cafcfacts/status/1163017252725297152?s=21
Lennie Lawrence is another example ...... performing miracles on a shoe string in the top division in almost impossible circumstances.