The weather forecast for Friday looks good, so one of NZ and Bangladesh will get the win
IF Saturday was a no result, then Australia would finish with zero net run rate presumably, so either Bangladesh or NZ would need a positive NRR to go through. NZ took a tonking yesterday so would need a really good win on Friday
did President not say the rationale was wins, then NRR? So if our game is washed out Saturday, the winner of Friday's game qualifies?
The weather forecast for Friday looks good, so one of NZ and Bangladesh will get the win
IF Saturday was a no result, then Australia would finish with zero net run rate presumably, so either Bangladesh or NZ would need a positive NRR to go through. NZ took a tonking yesterday so would need a really good win on Friday
Don't think so,
If its tied on points then its......wins, then NRR, then head-to-head,then seeding. therefore either Ban or NZ will have a win, Oz wont.
The weather forecast for Friday looks good, so one of NZ and Bangladesh will get the win
IF Saturday was a no result, then Australia would finish with zero net run rate presumably, so either Bangladesh or NZ would need a positive NRR to go through. NZ took a tonking yesterday so would need a really good win on Friday
Don't think so,
If its tied on points then its......wins, then NRR, then head-to-head,then seeding. therefore either Ban or NZ will have a win, Oz wont.
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I can just imagine the look on the Australian faces as the Umpires take them off on Saturday after 19.3 overs
Roy's average in his last 10 ODIs - 12.9 Bairstow's average in his last 10 ODIs - 44.4 Bairstow's average in limited overs matches this season - 67.9
We shouldn't be relying on winning games in spite of the form of players but because of the form of players.
You're not a Roy fan are you AA ??!!
I agree though, there will come a time when it will come unstuck.
With regard to the semis, I believe there should be an advantage given to the team that tops the group - say, like in County Cricket they are given the Toss win automatically.
But I'm sure you must have noticed that I proposed Bairstow and not Billings as his replacement despite my allegiance to Kent. Bairstow is better equipped at this stage in my opinion to open and has more runs in the bank so deserves his chance.
Roy always has had technical issues which is, as I keep saying, why he doesn't open for Surrey in the longer form of the game. When the ball isn't doing anything and when he can just "see ball, hit ball" he's great.
Having said all of this, I actually think that they will stick with Roy for the next game and tell him that there's no pressure because we're through. If he gets a score he will keep his place but, if not, they will then drop him.
Roy's average in his last 10 ODIs - 12.9 Bairstow's average in his last 10 ODIs - 44.4 Bairstow's average in limited overs matches this season - 67.9
We shouldn't be relying on winning games in spite of the form of players but because of the form of players.
You're not a Roy fan are you AA ??!!
I agree though, there will come a time when it will come unstuck.
With regard to the semis, I believe there should be an advantage given to the team that tops the group - say, like in County Cricket they are given the Toss win automatically.
But I'm sure you must have noticed that I proposed Bairstow and not Billings as his replacement despite my allegiance to Kent. Bairstow is better equipped at this stage in my opinion to open and has more runs in the bank so deserves his chance.
Roy always has had technical issues which is, as I keep saying, why he doesn't open for Surrey in the longer form of the game. When the ball isn't doing anything and when he can just "see ball, hit ball" he's great.
Having said all of this, I actually think that they will stick with Roy for the next game and tell him that there's no pressure because we're through. If he gets a score he will keep his place but, if not, they will then drop him.
When we have someone so good as Bairstow out of the team, I don't understand this loyalty to Roy.
There was no "loyalty" shown to Rashid when they left him out against Bangladesh, or to Willey who had been a regular
Roy's average in his last 10 ODIs - 12.9 Bairstow's average in his last 10 ODIs - 44.4 Bairstow's average in limited overs matches this season - 67.9
We shouldn't be relying on winning games in spite of the form of players but because of the form of players.
You're not a Roy fan are you AA ??!!
I agree though, there will come a time when it will come unstuck.
With regard to the semis, I believe there should be an advantage given to the team that tops the group - say, like in County Cricket they are given the Toss win automatically.
But I'm sure you must have noticed that I proposed Bairstow and not Billings as his replacement despite my allegiance to Kent. Bairstow is better equipped at this stage in my opinion to open and has more runs in the bank so deserves his chance.
Roy always has had technical issues which is, as I keep saying, why he doesn't open for Surrey in the longer form of the game. When the ball isn't doing anything and when he can just "see ball, hit ball" he's great.
Having said all of this, I actually think that they will stick with Roy for the next game and tell him that there's no pressure because we're through. If he gets a score he will keep his place but, if not, they will then drop him.
When we have someone so good as Bairstow out of the team, I don't understand this loyalty to Roy.
There was no "loyalty" shown to Rashid when they left him out against Bangladesh, or to Willey who had been a regular
I completely agree but IMO, its purely because he is a opener. They want a settled opening partnership and have thought that would be Hales and Roy for years to come.
If PAK beat SA today then its possible we will play them in semis
Knowing Pakistan they 'll beat SA then lose to Sri Lanka
In which case, it'll come down to NRR, because they will have all beaten each other. However, that's in the assumption that India's 2 remaining games are not affected by rain.
Roy's average in his last 10 ODIs - 12.9 Bairstow's average in his last 10 ODIs - 44.4 Bairstow's average in limited overs matches this season - 67.9
We shouldn't be relying on winning games in spite of the form of players but because of the form of players.
You're not a Roy fan are you AA ??!!
I agree though, there will come a time when it will come unstuck.
With regard to the semis, I believe there should be an advantage given to the team that tops the group - say, like in County Cricket they are given the Toss win automatically.
But I'm sure you must have noticed that I proposed Bairstow and not Billings as his replacement despite my allegiance to Kent. Bairstow is better equipped at this stage in my opinion to open and has more runs in the bank so deserves his chance.
Roy always has had technical issues which is, as I keep saying, why he doesn't open for Surrey in the longer form of the game. When the ball isn't doing anything and when he can just "see ball, hit ball" he's great.
Having said all of this, I actually think that they will stick with Roy for the next game and tell him that there's no pressure because we're through. If he gets a score he will keep his place but, if not, they will then drop him.
When we have someone so good as Bairstow out of the team, I don't understand this loyalty to Roy.
There was no "loyalty" shown to Rashid when they left him out against Bangladesh, or to Willey who had been a regular
I completely agree but IMO, its purely because he is a opener. They want a settled opening partnership and have thought that would be Hales and Roy for years to come.
I still think it will be Roy and Hales for years to come but for the now when someone is that out of form it's best to take that person out of the limelight and give them a chance to find form elsewhere. For our chances in this tournament we need to change it.
I think Roy will play Saturday, purely because there is no pressure and we will top the group regardless of results elsewhere.
Should he fail again then i feel the selectors will have no choice but to drop him.
As for the replacement, Bairstow seems like the obvious choice although I'm not sure of his stats as an opener?
The rest of the line up look's settled and are all in good form so i hope whoever gets the nod slots straight into Roy's place and they resist the urge to shuffle the pack and lose the current build up of momentum.
I think Roy will play Saturday, purely because there is no pressure and we will top the group regardless of results elsewhere.
Should he fail again then i feel the selectors will have no choice but to drop him.
As for the replacement, Bairstow seems like the obvious choice although I'm not sure of his stats as an opener?
The rest of the line up look's settled and are all in good form so i hope whoever gets the nod slots straight into Roy's place and they resist the urge to shuffle the pack and lose the current build up of momentum.
I'd open with Moeen. Though can see the benefit of not messing with the order though.
Roy will open for England in one day cricket for the next few years. But i have to agree with cants if he fails to impress next game take him out of the firing line and send him back to Surrey to find some form
Roy will open for England in one day cricket for the next few years. But i have to agree with cants if he fails to impress next game take him out of the firing line and send him back to Surrey to find some form
I would t even give him the next game. Is he gonna find form playing in the biggest and most high pressure tournament of his life? Doubt it. Save is all the trouble and drop him.
And this is coming from Roy's biggest fan. Genuinely love the man but form this bad can't be accommodated in a major tournament if we expect to win.
Besides their is a Roy shaped hole at number 5 in Surrey's championship side.
If I didn't know Pakistan better, I would have said that those two wickets were very similar to batsmen deliberately trying to give catching practice to, first the only slip and secondly to the third man.
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If its tied on points then its......wins, then NRR, then head-to-head,then seeding.
therefore either Ban or NZ will have a win, Oz wont.
I can just imagine the look on the Australian faces as the Umpires take them off on Saturday after 19.3 overs
Roy always has had technical issues which is, as I keep saying, why he doesn't open for Surrey in the longer form of the game. When the ball isn't doing anything and when he can just "see ball, hit ball" he's great.
Having said all of this, I actually think that they will stick with Roy for the next game and tell him that there's no pressure because we're through. If he gets a score he will keep his place but, if not, they will then drop him.
There was no "loyalty" shown to Rashid when they left him out against Bangladesh, or to Willey who had been a regular
Should he fail again then i feel the selectors will have no choice but to drop him.
As for the replacement, Bairstow seems like the obvious choice although I'm not sure of his stats as an opener?
The rest of the line up look's settled and are all in good form so i hope whoever gets the nod slots straight into Roy's place and they resist the urge to shuffle the pack and lose the current build up of momentum.
Can't see it myself
But i have to agree with cants if he fails to impress next game take him out of the firing line and send him back to Surrey to find some form
And this is coming from Roy's biggest fan. Genuinely love the man but form this bad can't be accommodated in a major tournament if we expect to win.
Besides their is a Roy shaped hole at number 5 in Surrey's championship side.