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Cricket - World Champions Trophy 2017

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  • Superb spell from Morkel
  • Don't follow cricket but there was a sports report at the start of the news just now and there was an Irish bloke talking and the caption said he was the England captain!

    Captain Morgan. Think Ireland and Jackie Charlton.
    I always thought Captain Morgan was a rum choice.
  • Don't follow cricket but there was a sports report at the start of the news just now and there was an Irish bloke talking and the caption said he was the England captain!

    Captain Morgan. Think Ireland and Jackie Charlton.
    I always thought Captain Morgan was a rum choice.
    Yo ho ho
  • CHGCHG
    edited June 2017
    Pakistan winning on DL at the mo
  • Bairstow can open. It's not as if he's not opening in Jamaica against Holding, Roberts, Garner and Marshall!

    And he's a better fielder than Roy too.
  • Bairstow can open. It's not as if he's not opening in Jamaica against Holding, Roberts, Garner and Marshall!

    And he's a better fielder than Roy too.

    He can open but I was working on the assumption that England want to keep the same approach. Go hard for the first ten, accumulate in the middle and have your finishers like Stokes and Buttler to go big months last 20. In that situation Bairstow is most suited to coming in later.

    As for the fielding I agree Bairstow is better but it is only marginal. Bairstow is exceptional but Roy is considered one of England's 'Gun' fielders.
  • Bairstow for Roy straight swap makes sense. Roy on form can take the game away and so could Bairstow. And also Hales and Root are in form so Bairstow can pick his shots
  • How are Stokes and Root's injuries? They might have a say in where Bairstow comes in
  • How are Stokes and Root's injuries? They might have a say in where Bairstow comes in

    Neither showed any signs of injury v NZ
  • Looking like Pakistan to win on D/L - still raining at Birmingham.
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  • Obviously I can see why people say Roy should play as there's no pressure (although it's against Australia which changes things a little) but surely thats more reason to play either Mooen or Bairstow with Hales to give it a trial without needing a result
  • I think they'll play Roy and then discard if he fails again.
  • Roy's average in his last 10 ODIs - 12.9
    Bairstow's average in his last 10 ODIs - 44.4
    Bairstow's average in limited overs matches this season - 67.9

    We shouldn't be relying on winning games in spite of the form of players but because of the form of players.

    You're not a Roy fan are you AA ??!!

    I agree though, there will come a time when it will come unstuck.

    With regard to the semis, I believe there should be an advantage given to the team that tops the group - say, like in County Cricket they are given the Toss win automatically.
    But I'm sure you must have noticed that I proposed Bairstow and not Billings as his replacement despite my allegiance to Kent. Bairstow is better equipped at this stage in my opinion to open and has more runs in the bank so deserves his chance.

    Roy always has had technical issues which is, as I keep saying, why he doesn't open for Surrey in the longer form of the game. When the ball isn't doing anything and when he can just "see ball, hit ball" he's great.

    Having said all of this, I actually think that they will stick with Roy for the next game and tell him that there's no pressure because we're through. If he gets a score he will keep his place but, if not, they will then drop him.
    When we have someone so good as Bairstow out of the team, I don't understand this loyalty to Roy.

    There was no "loyalty" shown to Rashid when they left him out against Bangladesh, or to Willey who had been a regular
    I completely agree but IMO, its purely because he is a opener. They want a settled opening partnership and have thought that would be Hales and Roy for years to come.

    I still think it will be Roy and Hales for years to come but for the now when someone is that out of form it's best to take that person out of the limelight and give them a chance to find form elsewhere. For our chances in this tournament we need to change it.
    Agree completely, in the past you can stick with him but when you have a match winner waiting in the wings it's a no brainer
  • Pakistan win on D/L. Another rain affected game. Such a shame in such a big tournament

  • Amazing that England have managed to complete both matches
  • Amazing that England have managed to complete both matches

    We control our own weather. :p

    It does seem that the weather is on our side this time round. Every game that is rain affected seems to help us and ours remain unaffected. Long may it last!
  • Its more than likely (rain permitting) that we will now play Pak in the semis - assumption is that India will beat SA, and Pak will beat SL.
  • Pakistan win on D/L. Another rain affected game. Such a shame in such a big tournament

    I vaguely remember that the last time it was here it was played in Sept, and was fairly good weather wise.
  • Its more than likely (rain permitting) that we will now play Pak in the semis - assumption is that India will beat SA, and Pak will beat SL.

    Not sure you can ever assume Pak would beat anyone!
  • Its more than likely (rain permitting) that we will now play Pak in the semis - assumption is that India will beat SA, and Pak will beat SL.

    Not sure you can ever assume Pak would beat anyone!
    Yes, get your point.
    Lets hope that if they do play us that the UK bookies can get in quick !
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  • India's game today is likely to relatively un rain affected, and you'd assume they'd beat SL comfortably

  • Pakistan bowled very well yesterday, and that will win them the game. But their batting can be very flaky.
  • Pakistan cannot be relied upon to score 250. I'd say SL are favourites against them
  • I'm not expecting a high scorer, and it will be close. But Sri Lanka are nothing special
  • If it is Pak, we should overpower them without a problem.
  • SL could do us a favour here if the beat India. Not likely though.
  • India are 178/2 off 33 overs - looking good for a score over 320. Will we see the first 350+ score I wonder ?
  • I was undecided whether to bring kohli or Dhawan into my fantasy team. I went with Kohli .

    Fuck!
  • Even with Kohli and Yuvraj scoring 7 between them India still breeze past 300
  • India 321 off 50 overs. Not as many as I thought they would get but still a stiff target, especially as the longest boundary is into the wind. That was how SL managed to restrict India somewhat as both Dhoni & Dhawan were caught going for a biggun on that side as SL were bowling very wide of the off stump.
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