Trump Quits Paris Accord
Many won't like it but his voters will. In spades. Rust-belt voters see the Paris Climate deal as a job killer and many ldon't like the idea of global governance of anything.
Plus, Obama never got the treaty ratified in the Senate and so it was never Constituional to begin with. He just signed it as an "agreement." Agreements carry no weight, here, when they are done circumventing the Constitution.
I think the whole Paris Accord is really big global government and big business using it to insulate themselves from competition. I am usually very suspect of treaties where everyone seems to think it is a good thing. Especially when it makes government and big business each happy.
Americans on their own are buying solar and electric cars and recycling more. The trend is already strong. I don't need Al Gore and Leo DiCaprio telling me I need to be taxed more while they pay "carbon taxes" to companies they own, themselves and fly 50,000 miles per year on their private jets.
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Disagree. The man is just a complete and utter bellend. A total liability.32
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Imagine actually thinking trying to save the planet from climate change is a bad thing.
Sure your great-grandchildren are screwed but it put a few more pounds in your pocket, so must've been worth it!19 -
Is there some way that the US can keep their own emissions and choke on their own problems that arise from it?
Oh no .... wait .......7 -
I think both points are true. Under the last administration there was huge investment in solar power for example.flyingkiwiDK said:Disagree. The man is just a complete and utter bellend. A total liability.
And trump is a steaming nipsy4 -
Thought it was Honda0
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He probably has investments in the pollution belching factories.6
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Listen you wankers, Trump is right, and all the other countries who signed up are wrong.
He is right because he is Trump and he is going to make America great again, by restoring all the land stolen from the native aboriginal peoples by the European settlers.
Am I understanding this correctly?10 -
This puts our choice of May or Corbyn in to perspective. They are both positive shining lights compared to that total and utter nut job in Donald J Trump5
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As dick waving goes, this is one of Mexican proportions!0
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@NapaAddick
Interesting post. It's possible that a lot of people reading it may not know what you do for a living. They may not have read the Wine thread
May I ask if you accept that man-made global warming is a fact? If "yes", how would you think it should be tackled, given that it is by definition a "global" problem?2 -
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The 3 countries NOT in the Paris accord are
USA
Syria
Nicaragua
Make of that what you will12 -
When your oil, gas and coal buddies pay Into your inaugural fund then you wonder how he could have voted any different.
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/05/02/20848/oil-gas-and-coal-interests-filling-donald-trump-s-swamp-cash
No surprise to me that he was going to pull out. The Kyoto treaty was a joke too.1 -
And the only reason Nicaragua aren't part of it is that they thought the agreement didn't go far enough to address the problem!cabbles said:The 3 countries NOT in the Paris accord are
USA
Syria
Nicaragua
Make of that what you will
EDIT: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/31/why-nicaragua-and-syria-didnt-join-the-paris-climate-accord/
In the case of Nicaragua, the argument actually went the other way. As world leaders gathered in the French capital in November 2015 to reach an agreement on fighting climate change, Nicaragua's lead envoy explained to reporters that the country would not support the agreed-upon plan as it hinged on voluntary pledges and would not punish those who failed to meet them. That was simply not enough, Paul Oquist argued.
“We’re not going to submit because voluntary responsibility is a path to failure,” Oquist told the website Climate Home on Nov. 30. “We don’t want to be an accomplice to taking the world to 3 to 4 degrees and the death and destruction that represents.”13 -
Fucking hell. That's brilliant. So that's Trump and Assad having a little candlelit supperCallumcafc said:
And the only reason Nicaragua aren't part of it is that they thought the agreement didn't go far enough to address the problem!cabbles said:The 3 countries NOT in the Paris accord are
USA
Syria
Nicaragua
Make of that what you will6 -
He said the accord was something like "exclusively for the rest of the world" which... didn't entirely make any fucking sense.
I honestly don't think anybody who votes for Boris Johnson's party should be mocking the US, but that's an argument for another thread.DamoNorthStand said:This puts our choice of May or Corbyn in to perspective. They are both positive shining lights compared to that total and utter nut job in Donald J Trump
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No surprise to me that he was going to pull out. The Kyoto treaty was a joke too.1StevieG said:When your oil, gas and coal buddies pay Into your inaugural fund then you wonder how he could have voted any different.
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/05/02/20848/oil-gas-and-coal-interests-filling-donald-trump-s-swamp-cash
I read an article in Newsweek or something about the make up of his cabinet. They're all billionaires. Your article and this doesn't surprise me0 -
The Spiv will be out of office in a few years (perhaps sooner). The numerous countries that signed up to the Paris Accord will do their thing regardless of isolationist Trump. Red-necks and coal-mine owners will raise a glass and 'decent America' and the rest of the world will look forward to the Spiv's demise.6
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Yup - real genius thinking.NapaAddick said:Smart move, politically.
Many won't like it but his voters will. In spades. Rust-belt voters see the Paris Climate deal as a job killer and many ldon't like the idea of global governance of anything.
Plus, Obama never got the treaty ratified in the Senate and so it was never Constituional to begin with. He just signed it as an "agreement." Agreements carry no weight, here, when they are done circumventing the Constitution.
I think the whole Paris Accord is really big global government and big business using it to insulate themselves from competition. I am usually very suspect of treaties where everyone seems to think it is a good thing. Especially when it makes government and big business each happy.
Americans on their own are buying solar and electric cars and recycling more. The trend is already strong. I don't need Al Gore and Leo DiCaprio telling me I need to be taxed more while they pay "carbon taxes" to companies they own, themselves and fly 50,000 miles per year on their private jets.
Cede the entire new economy in renewable energies and clean emissions to the Europeans and Chinese.
Dumber than a bag of shit.
In fact the only thing dumber than Trump are the inbred morons in Appalachia who think they are going to get their 1960s coal mining jobs back.12 -
Trump and UKIP are both right wing.JiMMy 85 said:He said the accord was something like "exclusively for the rest of the world" which... didn't entirely make any fucking sense.
I honestly don't think anybody who votes for Boris Johnson's party should be mocking the US, but that's an argument for another thread.DamoNorthStand said:This puts our choice of May or Corbyn in to perspective. They are both positive shining lights compared to that total and utter nut job in Donald J Trump
UK's Tories are centre right.
Completely incomparable.
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I read an article in Newsweek or something about the make up of his cabinet. They're all billionaires. Your article and this doesn't surprise mecabbles said:
No surprise to me that he was going to pull out. The Kyoto treaty was a joke too.1StevieG said:When your oil, gas and coal buddies pay Into your inaugural fund then you wonder how he could have voted any different.
https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/05/02/20848/oil-gas-and-coal-interests-filling-donald-trump-s-swamp-cash
I hope those 23 million people that might be chucked off healthcare don't live near coal plants or oil pipelines.3 -
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Trump and Johnson are self-serving. That's my comparison.DamoNorthStand said:
Trump and UKIP are both right wing.JiMMy 85 said:He said the accord was something like "exclusively for the rest of the world" which... didn't entirely make any fucking sense.
I honestly don't think anybody who votes for Boris Johnson's party should be mocking the US, but that's an argument for another thread.DamoNorthStand said:This puts our choice of May or Corbyn in to perspective. They are both positive shining lights compared to that total and utter nut job in Donald J Trump
UK's Tories are centre right.
Completely incomparable.4 -
What a weak and pathetic country we now are, so desperate for any trade deal crumbs that we have no principlesCallumcafc said:22 -
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"Make Our Planet Great Again"
Brilliant.7 -
I was reading Cosmos by Carl Sagan not long ago. Man is my god. Anyway, climate change from global warming had been a thing since the 70s.2
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UK government : sucking US cock since 1918.Callumcafc said:
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"Inbred Appalachian's" Brilliant lmaoOrmiston Addick said:
Yup - real genius thinking.NapaAddick said:Smart move, politically.
Many won't like it but his voters will. In spades. Rust-belt voters see the Paris Climate deal as a job killer and many ldon't like the idea of global governance of anything.
Plus, Obama never got the treaty ratified in the Senate and so it was never Constituional to begin with. He just signed it as an "agreement." Agreements carry no weight, here, when they are done circumventing the Constitution.
I think the whole Paris Accord is really big global government and big business using it to insulate themselves from competition. I am usually very suspect of treaties where everyone seems to think it is a good thing. Especially when it makes government and big business each happy.
Americans on their own are buying solar and electric cars and recycling more. The trend is already strong. I don't need Al Gore and Leo DiCaprio telling me I need to be taxed more while they pay "carbon taxes" to companies they own, themselves and fly 50,000 miles per year on their private jets.
Cede the entire new economy in renewable energies and clean emissions to the Europeans and Chinese.
Dumber than a bag of shit.
In fact the only thing dumber than Trump are the inbred morons in Appalachia who think they are going to get their 1960s coal mining jobs back.0 -
This is Trumps secret plan for world peace.
I have never seen all world leaders so united on one issue, in fact it seems like the backing and unity for the Paris Accord has increased since his decision to leave the agreement.
Its clearly all part of the 'art of the deal', obviously...6
