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How do the Tories need to change?

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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Not sure it’s been covered elsewhere but the piece on the news about Brum prison

    Front line public services in this country are something we should be proud of. The way the police, nhs, prisons, councils and a number of other services that the public rely on are being ran under this government is abhorrent. Systematically destroying social care, mental health and a whole host of things because at the end of the day, the people that really rely on these services, simply don’t matter to them. They literally couldn’t give a flying fuck as long as middle England get 2 holidays a year, their houses continue to rise in price and anyone in any sort of lower paid job get fucked over and squeezed to keep it that way. It’s an absolute disgrace.

    It’s when I hear of things like the situation at Brum prison that I’m reminded why I will always vote for the party that has the best chance of removing these runts in the Tory party.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Has anyone stopped, in amongst all the puffing poppinjayery, to consider that perhaps, just perhaps, he called it jerk rice, because, and solely because, Jamie Oliver is a feckin jerk?
  • Yet people will still vote Tory in their millions.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited August 2018
    A politician discovers, that in ideal conditions, with the wind in the right direction, where everything is new and robust, and nothing can go wrong, in some far flung corner of the kingdom, that with great good fortune a private company can do something 15% cheaper than a publicly funded and managed enterprise. The politician says if they can do it at that price, it should happen everywhere. This is how you think it you know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    Leuth said:

    I'm amazed Big Bad World isn't already here slavering over this opportunity to call out a black female Labour MP for being a snowflake

    Was someone tired?

    All I see is a female MP getting her bloomers all knotted over nothing.

    Some of us don't see colour as a route towards division, the way you do.

    Stay angry.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-media_uk_5b7b3a55e4b018b93e96bdd8?guccounter=1

    Corbyn gets more trump like by the day. I think in terms of media hostility, crucifying a labour leader for eating a bacon sandwich was when it was at its worst, not criticising meeting up with known terrorists.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-media_uk_5b7b3a55e4b018b93e96bdd8?guccounter=1

    Corbyn gets more trump like by the day. I think in terms of media hostility, crucifying a labour leader for eating a bacon sandwich was when it was at its worst, not criticising meeting up with known terrorists.

    Love this extract from him: "ending inequality in Britain and giving people hope of what can be achieved..."
    And then we can nicely juxtapose his twitter comment "RIP Hugo Chazez. A friend of the poor."

    Well, Jeremy, your friends in Venezuela (who you still won't say a word against) have certainly got rid of inequality: absolutely everyone there is now broke, starving, fleeing the country or just dying. Socialism in all its glory. But it's all the fault of Imperialists of course.

    There was a decent thread on here some while ago about Venezuela and how great the socialist government was. I'm going off to re-read it should be fun.

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Just me seeing the irony in the above?


    “Corbyn is so ridiculous to claim media hostility”

    “Corbyn is literally Trump”
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Yup, here it is

    forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/1467663#Comment_1467663

    I wonder if some of the supporters of the Venezuela nutters would now like to revisit their views of the socialists that have wrecked what should be the best economy in S. America?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    Just me seeing the irony in the above?


    “Corbyn is so ridiculous to claim media hostility”

    “Corbyn is literally Trump”

    Wouldn't you say the media has good reason to be hostile to donald trump?
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    On a 'how do the Tories need to change thread' people can fill their boots all they want about socialism, Corbyn, Venezuela, wreaths, Diane Abbot et al, they have a desperate need to do so, because by any foreseeable measure any alternative to this Tory government would be a huge improvement.
    They are either deluded, or mendacious, or greedy, or lying, or useless, or self serving, or a bunch of c*nts.
    Some might go so far as to say this Tory regime are a deluded mendacious greedy lying useless self serving bunch of c*nts.
    After all, they haven't denied it, or apologised for it.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,153
    cafcfan said:

    Yup, here it is

    forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/1467663#Comment_1467663

    I wonder if some of the supporters of the Venezuela nutters would now like to revisit their views of the socialists that have wrecked what should be the best economy in S. America?

    Meanwhile, the Tories continue to wreck the UK as we write. No matter how many times you try and change the subject, they are still self serving c**ts who are damaging the lives of far more British people than they are helping.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    seth plum said:

    by any foreseeable measure any alternative to this Tory government would be a huge improvement

    Polls would suggest you are wrong.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Do they?
    Are more than 50% of those polled in favour of this Tory government?
    That would be a very high approval rating.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    seth plum said:

    Do they?

    Yes, but don't worry as all of those that compile the polls are mendacious, racist, c*nts :wink:

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    Do they?

    Yes, but don't worry as all of those that compile the polls are mendacious, racist, c*nts :wink:

    You snuck racist in there.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    Do they?

    Yes, but don't worry as all of those that compile the polls are mendacious, racist, c*nts :wink:

    You snuck racist in there.
    Guilty as charged, although I feel telekinesis had a part to play :smile:
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,689

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    Do they?

    Yes, but don't worry as all of those that compile the polls are mendacious, racist, c*nts :wink:

    You snuck racist in there.
    Guilty as charged, although I feel telekinesis had a part to play :smile:
    Oi - what's a Spanner doing using words like telekinesis?
    You've been hanging about on here too long, BBW.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    rananegra said:

    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    Do they?

    Yes, but don't worry as all of those that compile the polls are mendacious, racist, c*nts :wink:

    You snuck racist in there.
    Guilty as charged, although I feel telekinesis had a part to play :smile:
    Oi - what's a Spanner doing using words like telekinesis?
    You've been hanging about on here too long, BBW.
    Would psychokinesis have been better suited? :wink:
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  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    I’m getting the impression there’s some people on here who don’t like the Tories..... I can see they still have some work to do to win over the waverers.....
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    cafcfan said:

    Yup, here it is

    forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/1467663#Comment_1467663

    I wonder if some of the supporters of the Venezuela nutters would now like to revisit their views of the socialists that have wrecked what should be the best economy in S. America?

    Meanwhile, the Tories continue to wreck the UK as we write. No matter how many times you try and change the subject, they are still self serving c**ts who are damaging the lives of far more British people than they are helping.
    No disagreement from me. But I have no option but to use this thread to expose the utter stupidity of members of other political parties because if you start a how does Labour need to change thread, the rabid manage to get it shut down.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    seth plum said:

    Do they?
    Are more than 50% of those polled in favour of this Tory government?
    That would be a very high approval rating.


    Of course it's not 50%, but they clearly show that 'any alternative to this tory government would be a huge improvement' is not something most people would agree with.

    YouGov/Times (20th Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 6%
    ICM/Guardian (22nd Jul) – CON 40%, LAB 41%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 5%
    YouGov/Times (23rd Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
    Ipsos MORI/Standard (24th Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,153
    cafcfan said:

    cafcfan said:

    Yup, here it is

    forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/1467663#Comment_1467663

    I wonder if some of the supporters of the Venezuela nutters would now like to revisit their views of the socialists that have wrecked what should be the best economy in S. America?

    Meanwhile, the Tories continue to wreck the UK as we write. No matter how many times you try and change the subject, they are still self serving c**ts who are damaging the lives of far more British people than they are helping.
    No disagreement from me. But I have no option but to use this thread to expose the utter stupidity of members of other political parties because if you start a how does Labour need to change thread, the rabid manage to get it shut down.
    Is that what Admin told you?
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    seth plum said:

    Do they?
    Are more than 50% of those polled in favour of this Tory government?
    That would be a very high approval rating.


    Of course it's not 50%, but they clearly show that 'any alternative to this tory government would be a huge improvement' is not something most people would agree with.

    YouGov/Times (20th Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 6%
    ICM/Guardian (22nd Jul) – CON 40%, LAB 41%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 5%
    YouGov/Times (23rd Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
    Ipsos MORI/Standard (24th Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
    Blimey! I'm really surprised the UKIP share is around the 6% level. What's that all about? It's like someone watching the Duracell Bunny adverts and pointing at the exhausted zinc-carbon jobbie and saying "I'll have that one".
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/21/jeremy-corbyn-refuses-endorse-calls-tougher-sanctions-russia/

    Oh dear corbs, alright to boycott when it's the west's allies doing the annexing, just anyone who doesn't like the west is okay in his book. So much for seeking "peaceful means".
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198

    cafcfan said:

    cafcfan said:

    Yup, here it is

    forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/1467663#Comment_1467663

    I wonder if some of the supporters of the Venezuela nutters would now like to revisit their views of the socialists that have wrecked what should be the best economy in S. America?

    Meanwhile, the Tories continue to wreck the UK as we write. No matter how many times you try and change the subject, they are still self serving c**ts who are damaging the lives of far more British people than they are helping.
    No disagreement from me. But I have no option but to use this thread to expose the utter stupidity of members of other political parties because if you start a how does Labour need to change thread, the rabid manage to get it shut down.
    Is that what Admin told you?
    I've no idea what you are talking about. Are you changing the subject by any chance?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

    seth plum said:

    Do they?
    Are more than 50% of those polled in favour of this Tory government?
    That would be a very high approval rating.


    Of course it's not 50%, but they clearly show that 'any alternative to this tory government would be a huge improvement' is not something most people would agree with.

    YouGov/Times (20th Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 6%
    ICM/Guardian (22nd Jul) – CON 40%, LAB 41%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 5%
    YouGov/Times (23rd Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
    Ipsos MORI/Standard (24th Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
    Nope, sorry, that is not clear evidence to counteract my statement.
    If the Tories are around 39% by my calculation that leaves 69% who are not Tory.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    cafcfan said:

    cafcfan said:

    Yup, here it is

    forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/1467663#Comment_1467663

    I wonder if some of the supporters of the Venezuela nutters would now like to revisit their views of the socialists that have wrecked what should be the best economy in S. America?

    Meanwhile, the Tories continue to wreck the UK as we write. No matter how many times you try and change the subject, they are still self serving c**ts who are damaging the lives of far more British people than they are helping.
    No disagreement from me. But I have no option but to use this thread to expose the utter stupidity of members of other political parties because if you start a how does Labour need to change thread, the rabid manage to get it shut down.
    Try starting a Labour thread again, that is an option open to you.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited August 2018
    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    Do they?
    Are more than 50% of those polled in favour of this Tory government?
    That would be a very high approval rating.


    Of course it's not 50%, but they clearly show that 'any alternative to this tory government would be a huge improvement' is not something most people would agree with.

    YouGov/Times (20th Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 6%
    ICM/Guardian (22nd Jul) – CON 40%, LAB 41%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 5%
    YouGov/Times (23rd Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
    Ipsos MORI/Standard (24th Jul) – CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
    Nope, sorry, that is not clear evidence to counteract my statement.
    If the Tories are around 39% by my calculation that leaves 69% who are not Tory.
    Hi Diane *waves* :wink:
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