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IAAF World Championships London 2017

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    C_A_F_C said:

    Brendan, don't retire! Carry on doing the thing you love, it keeps you young and we will miss you. What a night. how will Doha compete in 4 years? How will the athletes compete in the heat? Crazy, give the championships to the countries that love athletics, simples.

    I just hope that they realise that they're hosting it in two years time.
    Oops! Meant two years time! I agree with Brendan Foster though, how will athletics flourish in countries where it will be near empty stadia? I hope I am wrong and they fill them like the Olympic Stadium.
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    Unless there is a complete change of strategy , we won't be getting it back again for a good 15-20 years. 2021 will be the first time the USA have hosted it (in Eugene, Oregon).
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    Unless there is a complete change of strategy , we won't be getting it back again for a good 15-20 years. 2021 will be the first time the USA have hosted it (in Eugene, Oregon).

    And that is just because it is Nike town.
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    Unless there is a complete change of strategy , we won't be getting it back again for a good 15-20 years. 2021 will be the first time the USA have hosted it (in Eugene, Oregon).

    And that is just because it is Nike town.
    Awarding in a rather dodgy way with no bidding process (Gothenburg wanted to bid).

    At least Eugene is actually a bit of an athletics town out there. The stadium though just has a couple of stands and probably holds less that Crystal Palace. No idea if they are developing it or not, but it won't be anything like the Olympic Stadium as a venue
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    Not London, but a good chance of England holding the 2022 Commonwealth games, so at there will be someone of home event for our athletes
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    se9addick said:

    redman said:

    Absolutely fantastic week. Lucky enough to have gone 3 times and been glued to the box for the rest of the week. Football and cricket will always be main sports but there is something very unique and special watching top quality athletes. Feel very privileged to have seen Mo. Bolt our 4*100 teams and enjoyed many other events. Hope we get it back soon!

    I think from a financial perspective the IAAF will be dying for it to come back to London again and very soon!

    If only this were true. The only financial perspective the IAAF has shown recently is Cash Up Front and lots of it hence the next WAC is in Qatar where crowds will be negligible and then Niketown Eugene Oregon. Not a thought for crowd numbers. Seb is keen to have it here again ASAP but whether his clout as IAAF boss can override the in built short sighted financial self interest has to be in doubt

    We are brilliant at putting these events on, no other nation would have shifted 700,000 tickets for these Championships.
    This is true and a cause for pride. The IPC for one wants to return as soon as possible.

    Sadly as BF pointed out the Olympic Park venue as a whole has to be made viable for the periods between these halo events for its future as a global stage to be ensured and there is a long way to go before then, even with the huge volume of residential development underway.

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    So we hit our target of 6-8 medals but as Michael Johnson said last night, it depends on what we want, if you want to consider it a success for our team.

    6 medals - 4 of them in relays and only one individual medalling.
    He stated no other country has the funding and resources that we have, and it is up to those who run the sport to decide if that is a good enough return for their money.

    yes we hit the target, but is that target high enough ?
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    MrOneLung said:

    So we hit our target of 6-8 medals but as Michael Johnson said last night, it depends on what we want, if you want to consider it a success for our team.

    6 medals - 4 of them in relays and only one individual medalling.
    He stated no other country has the funding and resources that we have, and it is up to those who run the sport to decide if that is a good enough return for their money.

    yes we hit the target, but is that target high enough ?

    Heard Daley Thompson say we should specialise in relay events, as it's our best chance of winning medals and Johnson said athletes will always prefer to specialise in individual events. This was said before the finals.
    I believe we currently have a mixture going on because lottery money is invested in both and it seems to work. Hopefully it will motivate CJ Ujah, Adam Gemili, Danny Talbot and Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake to believe they can win medals at world level. Next year’s Commonwealth games will be a starting point.
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    Not London, but a good chance of England holding the 2022 Commonwealth games, so at there will be someone of home event for our athletes

    To amplify. Durban has been stripped of the games. Liverpool and Birmingham are now applying along with cities from Canada, Aus and Malaysia. The Liverpool bid includes putting a temporary athletics track around the new Everton ground being built on the docks. The BIrmingham bid includes upgrading the existing athletics track, where they currently hold GB champs and Diamond League, to a 25,000 seater.
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    redman said:

    Not London, but a good chance of England holding the 2022 Commonwealth games, so at there will be someone of home event for our athletes

    To amplify. Durban has been stripped of the games. Liverpool and Birmingham are now applying along with cities from Canada, Aus and Malaysia. The Liverpool bid includes putting a temporary athletics track around the new Everton ground being built on the docks. The BIrmingham bid includes upgrading the existing athletics track, where they currently hold GB champs and Diamond League, to a 25,000 seater.
    Informed chat I heard last week, is that it's likely to go back to Canada, as there hasn't been a games there since the early 1990's
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    world indoors are in Brum next march. tickets on sale next monday
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    redman said:

    Not London, but a good chance of England holding the 2022 Commonwealth games, so at there will be someone of home event for our athletes

    To amplify. Durban has been stripped of the games. Liverpool and Birmingham are now applying along with cities from Canada, Aus and Malaysia. The Liverpool bid includes putting a temporary athletics track around the new Everton ground being built on the docks. The BIrmingham bid includes upgrading the existing athletics track, where they currently hold GB champs and Diamond League, to a 25,000 seater.
    Impressed and surprised that there's been so much interest in holdings the games, given the massive losses that poorly held sporting events can generate. England haven't held it since 2002, so a reasonable time, Malaysia 1998, Canada 1994, so Canada win on the time passed, though I guess Malaysia would benefit from the "not awarding the games to one of the wealthy white nations" factor
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    IT_Andy said:

    MrOneLung said:

    So we hit our target of 6-8 medals but as Michael Johnson said last night, it depends on what we want, if you want to consider it a success for our team.

    6 medals - 4 of them in relays and only one individual medalling.
    He stated no other country has the funding and resources that we have, and it is up to those who run the sport to decide if that is a good enough return for their money.

    yes we hit the target, but is that target high enough ?

    Heard Daley Thompson say we should specialise in relay events, as it's our best chance of winning medals and Johnson said athletes will always prefer to specialise in individual events. This was said before the finals.
    I believe we currently have a mixture going on because lottery money is invested in both and it seems to work. Hopefully it will motivate CJ Ujah, Adam Gemili, Danny Talbot and Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake to believe they can win medals at world level. Next year’s Commonwealth games will be a starting point.
    In the shorter distances, it seems that we don't any really top class individuals, but do have great depth with a number of very good runners, plus very good team spirit, which sometimes doesn't happen with the egos!

    I think we have a lack of talent in a surprising number of events. Why have we got no Javelin throwers, for example, when you think of the quality we used to have, Backley, Mick Hill, Sanderson and Whitbread?
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    se9addick said:

    redman said:

    Absolutely fantastic week. Lucky enough to have gone 3 times and been glued to the box for the rest of the week. Football and cricket will always be main sports but there is something very unique and special watching top quality athletes. Feel very privileged to have seen Mo. Bolt our 4*100 teams and enjoyed many other events. Hope we get it back soon!

    I think from a financial perspective the IAAF will be dying for it to come back to London again and very soon!

    We are brilliant at putting these events on, no other nation would have shifted 700,000 tickets for these Championships.
    Mind you our Hotels did try to poison as many competitors as they could.
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    Tony Minichiello who coached Jess Ennis-Hill has said.

    "I hate the attitude that everything is great. It's been good not great. We've been investing heavily in standing still."

    Nb1 Athletics has received £54 million pounds of lottery funding since the London Olympics.
    Nb2 In the last six World Championships (since 2007) our medal haul has been 6,7,8,6,7,6.

    (I note from the placings table that we had 19 non medalling finalists. Hopefully, one or two of these will push on a gear or two.)
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    WADA expected to lift sanctions against Russia today.

    To recap. Back in 2016, when Russia was discovered to have masterminded the biggest doping scandal of the 21st century, it was decreed that the only way back into competition for this sporting pariah was to comply fully with all the conditions of Wada’s so-called roadmap, which included accepting the findings of the McLaren report into the affair, and granting Wada access to Moscow’s anti-doping laboratory. Neither of these conditions have been met.

    So the Russians are to be trusted again? Was it only a few weeks ago that two Russian agents were intercepted en route to the Swiss chemical lab tasked with the old switcheroo trick, albeit with nerve agent rather than urine samples. The Russians it seems have found yet another way to carry on taking the piss.
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