Can we keep this on thread instead of it turning into a Religious bashing debate which will eventually be closed down by a MOD who is encouraging us to discuss religion instead of funding a hospital.........just saying like
I thought it was mad that they turned the money down. I figured, surely the best thing to do is to take the money, and quietly explain to the men involved why their approach is not ideal, and maybe next year come up with a new plan.
But then someone told me that's what happened last year. These guys HAVE been told to stop doing it, but they went ahead and did it anyway.
Whether some middle-aged men on here agree or not, nurses do appear to find this demeaning. I know this, cos I just asked a load of them, and while they're not waving pitch forks, nor are they outraged, they do seem to think "sigh, I wish my work uniform wasn't sexualised" among other things.
And nurses, more than anyone else I can think of, deserve respect. And definitely deserve to be listened to. There is no sensible comparison to be made to drag queens or TV presenters, and it's not "PC gone made!". I detest the phrase 'political correctness' cos it's a lazy, and often a meaningless catch-all term for anyone that doesn't understand the finer points of what's being objected to.
The Trust have made a pig's ear of this, no doubt, but they have a sound and valid point.
I assume no nurses have ever been on a hen night dressed as tarts. Offensive to sex workers everywhere.
yep don't mind, but was using a suitable example of modern day political correctness, some guys dress up as female nurses to raise funds and get hammered for it end of, but if someone wants to make something out of what i said i'm happy to fight my corner.
Can we keep this on thread instead of it turning into a Religious bashing debate which will eventually be closed down by a MOD who is encouraging us to discuss religion instead of funding a hospital.........just saying like
Fair enough.
I will just say this - @Palarsehater - that's a breakdown of religions overall, which is a different statistic entirely to what I was referring to. Here's some related reading for you, maybe it's something for you to discuss with your fellow church-goers on Sunday morning!
Can we keep this on thread instead of it turning into a Religious bashing debate which will eventually be closed down by a MOD who is encouraging us to discuss religion instead of funding a hospital.........just saying like
Fair enough.
I will just say this - @Palarsehater - that's a breakdown of religions overall, which is a different statistic entirely to what I was referring to. Here's some related reading for you, maybe it's something for you to discuss with your fellow church-goers on Sunday morning!
I thought it was mad that they turned the money down. I figured, surely the best thing to do is to take the money, and quietly explain to the men involved why their approach is not ideal, and maybe next year come up with a new plan.
But then someone told me that's what happened last year. These guys HAVE been told to stop doing it, but they went ahead and did it anyway.
Whether some middle-aged men on here agree or not, nurses do appear to find this demeaning. I know this, cos I just asked a load of them, and while they're not waving pitch forks, nor are they outraged, they do seem to think "sigh, I wish my work uniform wasn't sexualised" among other things.
And nurses, more than anyone else I can think of, deserve respect. And definitely deserve to be listened to. There is no sensible comparison to be made to drag queens or TV presenters, and it's not "PC gone made!". I detest the phrase 'political correctness' cos it's a lazy, and often a meaningless catch-all term for anyone that doesn't understand the finer points of what's being objected to.
The Trust have made a pig's ear of this, no doubt, but they have a sound and valid point.
I assume no nurses have ever been on a hen night dressed as tarts. Offensive to sex workers everywhere.
I'm not very smart when it comes to this phrase, but I think it's fair to call that a false equivalency.
I saw a woman this morning wearing a suit with a shirt and tie. I was absolutely disgusted and nearly spat my lentils all over my copy of The Guardian.
How dare this sexist pig dress up as me, a male office worker. She even had the cheek to offer me £100 by way of an apology, but I refused as I found her outfit sexist and demeaning.
People should really think before they dress themselves and go out in public because they are likely to offend others.
without turning this into an argument, the word easter was removed from majority of easter eggs, so that they would not offend other faiths and other faiths could enjoy them, kingsmill have recently been halal approved. don't blame the companies as they want to sell as many of there products as possible.
So what part of the crucifixion do easter eggs relate to?
was another example of pc gone mad, which is connected to christmas as its a christian holiday to which this country was last time i checked.
UK Residents who identify as Christian: 43.8% UK Residents who say they are not religious: 48.5% Amount of chocolate eggs that have meaning in Christianity: 0
Easter eggs in the tradition of Christianity were chicken eggs painted red (to represent the blood of Christ, obvs) in Sunday School. What you're talking about is the commercialism of holidays. It's not about 'offending' other religions at all - there's no evidence of any other religions being offended. It's a commercial thing. As you concede, why would a corporation limit itself to one religion? It's not PC gone mad, by your own admission.
80m eggs are sold in the UK each year. But fewer than 28m people identify as Christian. So what's the problem in removing the religious connection? Especially if it opens up the tradition to more people?
The idea that this is a 'Christian country' is also, clearly, a misnomer given the aforementioned figures, and the church's (relatively) minimal influence on the state. For me, the idea that the heads of the church have any say in the governing of this country is utterly fucking insane. It's literally acceptable insanity. Muslim beliefs are as insane as Christian, Jewish or Scientology beliefs to me, and apparently to the majority in this country.
Some people will say anything to get out of buying Christmas presents.
without turning this into an argument, the word easter was removed from majority of easter eggs, so that they would not offend other faiths and other faiths could enjoy them, kingsmill have recently been halal approved. don't blame the companies as they want to sell as many of there products as possible.
So what part of the crucifixion do easter eggs relate to?
I am sure that you know this already .. BUT .. just in case .. both Christmas and Easter, the two main 'Christian' festivals were grafted onto the old Pagan festivals celebrating the start of the new year (Dec 21st, the shortest day/Dec 22nd the start of the lengthening days) ... 'Easter' eggs are old Pagan symbols of rebirth as winter gives way to spring .. sap rises and both inanimate and animate 'things' get frisky .. and long may both continue
I saw a woman this morning wearing a suit with a shirt and tie. I was absolutely disgusted and nearly spat my lentils all over my copy of The Guardian.
How dare this sexist pig dress up as me, a male office worker. She even had the cheek to offer me £100 by way of an apology, but I refused as I found her outfit sexist and demeaning.
People should really think before they dress themselves and go out in public because they are likely to offend others.
I've never thought suits looked good on women as business wear. Just looks a bit odd imo
I saw a woman this morning wearing a suit with a shirt and tie. I was absolutely disgusted and nearly spat my lentils all over my copy of The Guardian.
How dare this sexist pig dress up as me, a male office worker. She even had the cheek to offer me £100 by way of an apology, but I refused as I found her outfit sexist and demeaning.
People should really think before they dress themselves and go out in public because they are likely to offend others.
I've never thought suits looked good on women as business wear. Just looks a bit odd imo
We know the type of women you like, weird clothes, trainers at work, holidays in Dubai and a Flemish accent
without turning this into an argument, the word easter was removed from majority of easter eggs, so that they would not offend other faiths and other faiths could enjoy them, kingsmill have recently been halal approved. don't blame the companies as they want to sell as many of there products as possible.
So what part of the crucifixion do easter eggs relate to?
I am sure that you know this already .. BUT .. just in case .. both Christmas and Easter, the two main 'Christian' festivals were grafted onto the old Pagan festivals celebrating the start of the new year (Dec 21st, the shortest day/Dec 22nd the start of the lengthening days) ... 'Easter' eggs are old Pagan symbols of rebirth as winter gives way to spring .. sap rises and both inanimate and animate 'things' get frisky .. and long may both continue
Madness by Mary and Joseph to visit Bethlehem at Xmas, only to find no room at the inn. Everywhere is booked up months in advance.
Blokes dressed as birds ceased to be funny in about 1937 so frankly this is a deserved kick up the arse for these bothersome do gooders to up their game.
without turning this into an argument, the word easter was removed from majority of easter eggs, so that they would not offend other faiths and other faiths could enjoy them, kingsmill have recently been halal approved. don't blame the companies as they want to sell as many of there products as possible.
So what part of the crucifixion do easter eggs relate to?
I am sure that you know this already .. BUT .. just in case .. both Christmas and Easter, the two main 'Christian' festivals were grafted onto the old Pagan festivals celebrating the start of the new year (Dec 21st, the shortest day/Dec 22nd the start of the lengthening days) ... 'Easter' eggs are old Pagan symbols of rebirth as winter gives way to spring .. sap rises and both inanimate and animate 'things' get frisky .. and long may both continue
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Christianity (59.5%)
No religion (25.7%)
Not stated (7.2%)
Islam (4.4%)
Hinduism (1.3%)
Judaism (0.4%)
Other religions (1.5%)
If this isn't a christian country why do we have Christmas holidays?
good friday
easter monday
christmas day.
surely every religous holiday should be celebrated?
but note taken no further comment from me.
I will just say this - @Palarsehater - that's a breakdown of religions overall, which is a different statistic entirely to what I was referring to. Here's some related reading for you, maybe it's something for you to discuss with your fellow church-goers on Sunday morning!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/23/no-religion-outnumber-christians-england-wales-study
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/13/uk-losing-faith-religion-young-reject-parents-beliefs
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-people-christian-more-non-religious-faith-agnostic-atheism-report-a7737856.html
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/britain-really-is-ceasing-to-be-a-christian-country/
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How dare this sexist pig dress up as me, a male office worker. She even had the cheek to offer me £100 by way of an apology, but I refused as I found her outfit sexist and demeaning.
People should really think before they dress themselves and go out in public because they are likely to offend others.