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I can't watch any play offs - too painful. looking forward to the Champions League though!Covered End said:Quite amazing that during The Championship Play Off Final, people would still rather row on this thread.
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I can't watch the play-offs either, but I'm busy watching Pro14 rugby (As Gaeilge) on TG4...MuttleyCAFC said:
I can't watch any play offs - too painful. looking forward to the Champions League though!Covered End said:Quite amazing that during The Championship Play Off Final, people would still rather row on this thread.
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Me too black. Some of these would find someone to argue with in an empty room.blackpool72 said:
Fuckin unbelievable I agreeCovered End said:Quite amazing that during The Championship Play Off Final, people would still rather row on this thread.
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Great isn't it. Apart from Southbank fighting the leave corner it's just a circle jerk for the rest.Covered End said:Quite amazing that during The Championship Play Off Final, people would still rather row on this thread.
CL final now, expect it to continue.3 -
"This is not my opinion. Do your own research if you disbelieve me."Southbank said:
Like what?Algarveaddick said:
Yes and No.Southbank said:
None of you 'young' Remainers prepared to respond to this, funny eh.Southbank said:
Would they be the older and less educated people who have spent their lives working and paying taxes to pay for the education of young better educated people?Stig said:You don't have to be bloody clever or even just ordinarily clever to work it out (not that I'm suggesting that Rinse8 isn't).
Obviously they should be grateful they were even allowed to vote.
Now you go back and respond to the many times others have pulled you up on ridiculous claims and statements you have made and then not followed up when challenged.1 -
Does the concept of irony not exist in gammon world?blackpool72 said:
Fuckin unbelievable I agreeCovered End said:Quite amazing that during The Championship Play Off Final, people would still rather row on this thread.
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Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?4
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He said article 24 on the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade with the WTO solves the border problem.MuttleyCAFC said:Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?
I am afraid he is wrong. He is like a tax Lawyer or an accountant looking for a loophole. At the very best interpretation of said article it is an elaborate way of kicking a can down the road, but ultimately the hard border (against the GFA) will have to come. He further obfuscated things by mentioning Turkey, again a border situation in Ireland as with Turkey will go against the Good Friday Agreement.
Rees Mogg has a certain demeanour which has a somewhat winning quality, but he is also not as straight as he likes to think. He starts by saying that it is his clients not him that benefit from the foreign investments his company advises, but then admits his own gain is of a 'secondary' form.
Secondary enough to buy a 5 million pound property in Westminster.
I don't know why he doesn't simply say that he has a legitimate investment advisory company that does not invest in the UK, and he makes a shed load of money out of it.
His schtik is to give the impression of authority over detail, hoping others won't check thoroughly enough to pin him down, he will soon meet his nemesis.
Finally enough for some reason I don't find him as vile as some other Tory scum like Boris Johnson. You kind of know where you are with Tories like Rees Mogg or Anna Soubry.0 -
Gammon world??? I always thought you were an adult.Algarveaddick said:
Does the concept of irony not exist in gammon world?blackpool72 said:
Fuckin unbelievable I agreeCovered End said:Quite amazing that during The Championship Play Off Final, people would still rather row on this thread.
Learn something new everyday.1 - Sponsored links:
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MuttleyCAFC said:
Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?
Anyone who thinks that rape victims should be forced to give birth to any child that results from that rape is quite vile enough for me, Seth.seth plum said:
He said article 24 on the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade with the WTO solves the border problem.MuttleyCAFC said:Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?
I am afraid he is wrong. He is like a tax Lawyer or an accountant looking for a loophole. At the very best interpretation of said article it is an elaborate way of kicking a can down the road, but ultimately the hard border (against the GFA) will have to come. He further obfuscated things by mentioning Turkey, again a border situation in Ireland as with Turkey will go against the Good Friday Agreement.
Rees Mogg has a certain demeanour which has a somewhat winning quality, but he is also not as straight as he likes to think. He starts by saying that it is his clients not him that benefit from the foreign investments his company advises, but then admits his own gain is of a 'secondary' form.
Secondary enough to buy a 5 million pound property in Westminster.
I don't know why he doesn't simply say that he has a legitimate investment advisory company that does not invest in the UK, and he make a shed load of money out of it.
His schtik is to give the impression of authority over detail, hoping others won't check thoroughly enough to pin him down, he will soon meet his nemesis.
Finally enough for some reason I don't find him as vile as some other Tory scum like Boris Johnson. You kind of know where you are with Tories like Rees Mogg or Anna Soubry.4 -
No not me mate, tried it, didn't like it...Stu_of_Kunming said:
Gammon world??? I always thought you were an adult.Algarveaddick said:
Does the concept of irony not exist in gammon world?blackpool72 said:
Fuckin unbelievable I agreeCovered End said:Quite amazing that during The Championship Play Off Final, people would still rather row on this thread.
Learn something new everyday.
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Yeah I know what you mean. At least he is up front with those views. Boris Johnson is a slippery chameleon like vile Tory and that is what I was getting at.Algarveaddick said:MuttleyCAFC said:Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?
Anyone who thinks that rape victims should be forced to give birth to any child that results from that rape is quite vile enough for me, Seth.seth plum said:
He said article 24 on the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade with the WTO solves the border problem.MuttleyCAFC said:Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?
I am afraid he is wrong. He is like a tax Lawyer or an accountant looking for a loophole. At the very best interpretation of said article it is an elaborate way of kicking a can down the road, but ultimately the hard border (against the GFA) will have to come. He further obfuscated things by mentioning Turkey, again a border situation in Ireland as with Turkey will go against the Good Friday Agreement.
Rees Mogg has a certain demeanour which has a somewhat winning quality, but he is also not as straight as he likes to think. He starts by saying that it is his clients not him that benefit from the foreign investments his company advises, but then admits his own gain is of a 'secondary' form.
Secondary enough to buy a 5 million pound property in Westminster.
I don't know why he doesn't simply say that he has a legitimate investment advisory company that does not invest in the UK, and he make a shed load of money out of it.
His schtik is to give the impression of authority over detail, hoping others won't check thoroughly enough to pin him down, he will soon meet his nemesis.
Finally enough for some reason I don't find him as vile as some other Tory scum like Boris Johnson. You kind of know where you are with Tories like Rees Mogg or Anna Soubry.1 -
Yes - very much so. Was out with a couple of Tory friends last night and even they can't abide the man.seth plum said:
Yeah I know what you mean. At least he is up front with those views. Boris Johnson is a slippery chameleon like vile Tory and that is what I was getting at.Algarveaddick said:MuttleyCAFC said:Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?
Anyone who thinks that rape victims should be forced to give birth to any child that results from that rape is quite vile enough for me, Seth.seth plum said:
He said article 24 on the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade with the WTO solves the border problem.MuttleyCAFC said:Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?
I am afraid he is wrong. He is like a tax Lawyer or an accountant looking for a loophole. At the very best interpretation of said article it is an elaborate way of kicking a can down the road, but ultimately the hard border (against the GFA) will have to come. He further obfuscated things by mentioning Turkey, again a border situation in Ireland as with Turkey will go against the Good Friday Agreement.
Rees Mogg has a certain demeanour which has a somewhat winning quality, but he is also not as straight as he likes to think. He starts by saying that it is his clients not him that benefit from the foreign investments his company advises, but then admits his own gain is of a 'secondary' form.
Secondary enough to buy a 5 million pound property in Westminster.
I don't know why he doesn't simply say that he has a legitimate investment advisory company that does not invest in the UK, and he make a shed load of money out of it.
His schtik is to give the impression of authority over detail, hoping others won't check thoroughly enough to pin him down, he will soon meet his nemesis.
Finally enough for some reason I don't find him as vile as some other Tory scum like Boris Johnson. You kind of know where you are with Tories like Rees Mogg or Anna Soubry.0 -
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/0 -
David Davis and Michel Barnier are currently at loggerheads on the future trade relationship the UK and EU should have with Brussels deliberately trying to frustrate the leave prcoess.
However, Steve Peers, from the think tank UK in a Changing Europe, has warned even after the UK is freed from the elitist bloc and the two negotiating partners finalise a trade agreement, the WTO may intervene and demand changes to the deal.
Speaking to journalists including Express.co.uk, he said: “Whatever relationship the UK has with the European Union, there could be some legal challenges within the WTO disputes settlement system brought by members other than the UK and the EU.
“It’s what both sides are keeping in mind during the negotiations.
“Whether it’s a customs union or a free trade area, there could be arguments about what exactly those mean.
“The EU has lost several of those cases when challenged by WTO members.”
Mr Peers said the fact Brussels had previously lost cases in the disputes settlement system “may be why the EU is possibly cautious” when defining the exact relationship shared between the UK and the EU27 post Brexit.
Like most countries around the world, the EU and the UK are members of the WTO and are therefore forced to abide by their trading rules.
According to bizarre WTO rules, a customs union means countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners.
Therefore any trade benefits offered to those who have signed the deal must also be offered to trade partners who are not a part of the deal.
The academic continued: “A free trade area, according to WTO law, means you have to only abolish trade barriers on virtually all trading goods between the UK and the EU.
“But a customs union goes further, it also has substantially the same rules on trade with all of the non-partners to that treaty.”
The UK officially leaves the EU in March 2019 and major progress in negotiations expected to have been made by next month’s EU summit.
Fear of a WTO dispute on the agreement puts extra pressure on the negotiating partners to come to an agreement as soon as possible.
But failure to agree on issues such as the Northern Ireland border means it is unlikely any substantial progress will have been made before the important Brussels meeting in June.
Dan Falvey –Sunday Express 27/05/18
As an aside - I love the Express' term "elitist". In early 2016 they were warning us that any old Tom, Dick or Harry could join and we were going to be flooded with Islamic nutcases...1 -
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/
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Sounds familiar...charltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/
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The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/0 -
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/3 - Sponsored links:
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As much as I understand and share the frustration with what's happening, I'm not really convinced that comments like this are conducive to discussion. Can we try to be a little less accusatory please.Red_in_SE8 said:
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/3 -
The time when we could pretend we might have a rational debate with Brexit voters about the catastrophic disaster they have inflicted on this country has passed. The evidence and facts are there for everyone to see. Anyone who believes the earth is flat or refutes the theory of evolution is an idiot. It is pointless to debate with people who hold these views. They should simply be held up for redicule. And it is exactly the same with people who continue to defend their Brexit vote.Stig said:
As much as I understand and share the frustration with what's happening, I'm not really convinced that comments like this are conducive to discussion. Can we try to be a little less accusatory please.Red_in_SE8 said:
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/2 -
I don't think Anna Soubry will be too pleased to be lumped in with that to**er. My jaw hit the floor when he was talking about his secondary gain. I mean seriously! I felt my intelligence was being insulted and I would be surprised if Andrew Marr didn't feel even more so after that interview! If you talk complete rubbish in a posh voice using words that nobody has heard of, it remains rubbish.seth plum said:
He said article 24 on the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade with the WTO solves the border problem.MuttleyCAFC said:Watching Andrew Marr - Rees Mogg scares me. What is this complete loon doing anywhere near governing this country?
I am afraid he is wrong. He is like a tax Lawyer or an accountant looking for a loophole. At the very best interpretation of said article it is an elaborate way of kicking a can down the road, but ultimately the hard border (against the GFA) will have to come. He further obfuscated things by mentioning Turkey, again a border situation in Ireland as with Turkey will go against the Good Friday Agreement.
Rees Mogg has a certain demeanour which has a somewhat winning quality, but he is also not as straight as he likes to think. He starts by saying that it is his clients not him that benefit from the foreign investments his company advises, but then admits his own gain is of a 'secondary' form.
Secondary enough to buy a 5 million pound property in Westminster.
I don't know why he doesn't simply say that he has a legitimate investment advisory company that does not invest in the UK, and he makes a shed load of money out of it.
His schtik is to give the impression of authority over detail, hoping others won't check thoroughly enough to pin him down, he will soon meet his nemesis.
Finally enough for some reason I don't find him as vile as some other Tory scum like Boris Johnson. You kind of know where you are with Tories like Rees Mogg or Anna Soubry.3 -
Ridicule.Red_in_SE8 said:
They should simply be held up for redicule. And it is exactly the same with people who continue to defend their Brexit vote.Stig said:
As much as I understand and share the frustration with what's happening, I'm not really convinced that comments like this are conducive to discussion. Can we try to be a little less accusatory please.Red_in_SE8 said:
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/2 -
That's why you should never take the piss out of someone else's spelling and grammar. Only a fool does otherwise.Covered End said:
Ridicule.Red_in_SE8 said:
They should simply be held up for redicule. And it is exactly the same with people who continue to defend their Brexit vote.Stig said:
As much as I understand and share the frustration with what's happening, I'm not really convinced that comments like this are conducive to discussion. Can we try to be a little less accusatory please.Red_in_SE8 said:
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/1 -
You heard it here first. As Chippy points out, if you don't take the piss out of other people's spelling and grammar, you're a fool.Chippycafc said:
That's why you should never take the piss out of someone else's spelling and grammar. Only a fool does otherwise.Covered End said:
Ridicule.Red_in_SE8 said:
They should simply be held up for redicule. And it is exactly the same with people who continue to defend their Brexit vote.Stig said:
As much as I understand and share the frustration with what's happening, I'm not really convinced that comments like this are conducive to discussion. Can we try to be a little less accusatory please.Red_in_SE8 said:
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/6 -
Indeed. The cap obviously fits you.Chizz said:
You heard it here first. As Chippy points out, if you don't take the piss out of other people's spelling and grammar, you're a fool.Chippycafc said:
That's why you should never take the piss out of someone else's spelling and grammar. Only a fool does otherwise.Covered End said:
Ridicule.Red_in_SE8 said:
They should simply be held up for redicule. And it is exactly the same with people who continue to defend their Brexit vote.Stig said:
As much as I understand and share the frustration with what's happening, I'm not really convinced that comments like this are conducive to discussion. Can we try to be a little less accusatory please.Red_in_SE8 said:
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/0 -
Anyway where's your other half. He hasn't been seen for a while.Chizz said:
You heard it here first. As Chippy points out, if you don't take the piss out of other people's spelling and grammar, you're a fool.Chippycafc said:
That's why you should never take the piss out of someone else's spelling and grammar. Only a fool does otherwise.Covered End said:
Ridicule.Red_in_SE8 said:
They should simply be held up for redicule. And it is exactly the same with people who continue to defend their Brexit vote.Stig said:
As much as I understand and share the frustration with what's happening, I'm not really convinced that comments like this are conducive to discussion. Can we try to be a little less accusatory please.Red_in_SE8 said:
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/0 -
Were waiting....Chippycafc said:
Anyway where's your other half. He hasn't been seen for a while.Chizz said:
You heard it here first. As Chippy points out, if you don't take the piss out of other people's spelling and grammar, you're a fool.Chippycafc said:
That's why you should never take the piss out of someone else's spelling and grammar. Only a fool does otherwise.Covered End said:
Ridicule.Red_in_SE8 said:
They should simply be held up for redicule. And it is exactly the same with people who continue to defend their Brexit vote.Stig said:
As much as I understand and share the frustration with what's happening, I'm not really convinced that comments like this are conducive to discussion. Can we try to be a little less accusatory please.Red_in_SE8 said:
Delusional morons. Soon the list of synonyms for Moron and idiot in The Oxford English Dictionary will be updated to include "Brexit voter".McBobbin said:
The level of delusion in those comments is astoundingcharltonkeston said:
More worrying is the comments below this piece. They don’t understand what they, (might), have just read.Algarveaddick said:
A follow up to this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5775771/Were-road-Car-mageddon-hard-Brexit-drive-industry-ruin.htmlAlgarveaddick said:Anyway, here's a bloke whose business is going up the Swanee unless this shit storm is sorted. Have a chuckle at his life.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/the-van-driver-being-put-out-of-business-by-brexit/0 -
Still waiting for #tribbles to tell you off for that inflammatory remark Polo...cafcpolo said:
Great isn't it. Apart from Southbank fighting the leave corner it's just a circle jerk for the rest.Covered End said:Quite amazing that during The Championship Play Off Final, people would still rather row on this thread.
CL final now, expect it to continue.
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