The influence of the EU on Britain.
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Mogg?Red_in_SE8 said:So who is going to Brussels today for the joint press conference with Barnier?
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Ester McVey now resigned1
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and this from Stephen Bush this morning was bang on
' If you are Esther McVey, why pass up the one opportunity for the word “resigns” to appear next to your name without the words “in disgrace” next to it?'16 -
All the brexit voters who knew what they were voting for, can you tell us the name of the next cabinet minister to resign so we can have a few quid on it?
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Make no mistake though, this is the move for a no deal Brexit - it is important that it gets stopped. May is finished - or at least they want her to be finished.0
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May to resign as PM in the House today would not shock me.MuttleyCAFC said:Make no mistake though, this is the move for a no deal Brexit - it is important that it gets stopped. May is finished.
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Couldn’t agree more. Horrible disgusting specimen. Why May brought her into the Cabinet I’ll never know. Her and her ‘friend/ flatmate’ Philip ‘the bookies friend’ Davies MP are a charming couple.Rothko said:and this from Stephen Bush this morning was bang on
' If you are Esther McVey, why pass up the one opportunity for the word “resigns” to appear next to your name without the words “in disgrace” next to it?'3 -
She could still win a vote within her party - but where does she go from here? I would rather her in charge at this point, than some of loons who will be lining up. Not sure how we can seriously have a leadership election at this stage - we would need a referendum or an election.0
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Yeah, you say forced now...McBobbin said:This whole situation is like being forced to stare up an arsehole
The EU27 are probably thinking "you asked for it!!!"0 -
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I thought May had meetings with opposition leaders last night about how amendments to the vote will be handled. I agree there will be no amendments to the actual EU agreement.bobmunro said:
How can amendments be voted on? That would require, potentially, renegotiation with the EU and there isn't time - the EU have already said that.Red_in_SE8 said:May will win new leadership contest. Deal gets through Parliament with Labour and possibly SNP amendments. Tory Party implodes over next 3 years. UK stays in EU via UK wide backstop solution for at least 10 years. Then another referendum.
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Penny mordaunt (loving this by the way).seth plum said:All the brexit voters who knew what they were voting for, can you tell us the name of the next cabinet minister to resign so we can have a few quid on it?
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It's like a shit Game of Thrones series finale with more tits.13
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Sourbry calls for a Government of National Unity which sounds awfully like a precursor to a new Centrist party.Henry Irving said:David Lammy (soon to be joint leader of One Nation, the new centrist party with Anna Soubry) and many others pointing out the May offered three scenarios.
Her deal
No deal
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Has Andrea Leadsom's pizza club agreed to do one minister per hour today?1
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It is a call for all the remainers to get together. They are the majority - although I think if you do that, you need to have an election! Maybe a referendum is a less extreme option!Henry Irving said:
Sourbry calls for a Government of National Unity which sounds awfully like a precursor to a new Centrist party.Henry Irving said:David Lammy (soon to be joint leader of One Nation, the new centrist party with Anna Soubry) and many others pointing out the May offered three scenarios.
Her deal
No deal
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The fact that the draft has no clarity about the future relationship of the UK with the EU means that all of the tests can be argued as to fail.Red_in_SE8 said:
Don’t think so.ShootersHillGuru said:Red_in_SE8 said:Anyone know which of the six Labour tests this agreement fails?
Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU?
Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union?
Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities?
Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom?
Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime?
Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?
All six arguably
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There are posters here who will say this mess is caused by Barnier, Corbyn, Varadkar, Soros, Merkle, Uncle Tom Cobley and Karel Fraeye.
No.
It is down to those who voted brexit.
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But the real issue was always, what was promised by leave in the referendum was never deliverable. The government may have made a pig's ear of the negotiations, but all this rubbish we were fed about Northern Ireland not being a problem and the EU falling other backwards to give us a deal was never realistic.7
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The only thing I don’t like about this deal is that we have no say in any new EU rules we may be subjected to over the next few years. But that serves us right for allowing this Brexit shitfest in the first place.
If Kate Hoey hates it it has to be good for the country.
Labour have to be very careful here. Parliament’s paramount responsibility is to avoid a no deal exit.
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Rees Mogg and his pals are making their move - everybody has to be careful - very careful. Having said that, it does make no Brexit more possible too!0
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Yesterday the Taoisearch gave a dignified positive response to Theresa May's deal.
Arlene must have hated it.1 -
It is a withdrawal agreement. The new trade agreement and future relationship negotiations start after 29 March. Meanwhile I, and most businesses, will be happy with the UK wide backstop that keeps us in the customs union and single market.ShootersHillGuru said:
The fact that the draft has no clarity about the future relationship of the UK with the EU means that all of the tests can be argued as to fail.Red_in_SE8 said:
Don’t think so.ShootersHillGuru said:Red_in_SE8 said:Anyone know which of the six Labour tests this agreement fails?
Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU?
Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union?
Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities?
Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom?
Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime?
Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?
All six arguably1
