Aussie Twitter in a sort of angry frenzy cos they're picking Paine (one FC hundred ever, in 2006) and S Marsh. Tbf Paine is about their best wicketkeeper and S Marsh is very dangerous on his day
Bancroft, who has been in fine form for Western Australia, is likely to open. He did very little over here playing for Gloucs until September - when Kent's medium pace attack allowed him to get a double ton.
Paine hasn't kept all summer and only done so in three Sheffield Shield matches in the last two years. He also has just one first class hundred to his name. Little wonder that the selection has met with outrage. As stated previously, we shouldn't believe that all is rosy in the Aussie garden.
I can’t believe they are going to leave out Renshaw, and while Paine is a great Wicketkeeper it’s a bit of a surprise. I thought the team is only announced tomorrow, or are these Aussie Cricket Twitter ITK’s. These ITK’s get everywhere.
I can’t believe they are going to leave out Renshaw, and while Paine is a great Wicketkeeper it’s a bit of a surprise. I thought the team is only announced tomorrow, or are these Aussie Cricket Twitter ITK’s. These ITK’s get everywhere.
There are always leaks. The players are told in advance and either have their own favourite journos who they tell or they mention it to a family friend and it goes viral.
Burns hasn't been in the Test side for a year - his last six Test innings amounted to 35 in total. He's also only averaging a shade over 25 from 12 innings for Queensland this season with Doug "the rug" Bollinger getting him out in both innings of his last match, against NSW, for a grand total of 2!
So, that's a very long winded way of saying "no he doesn't!"
Even though Stokes is out I think they are weak in areas that we can exploit
Do I buy BT for 4 months ?
Yes mate! It's gonna be a really close series because both teams are not that great. Both have some very good players but many untried on either side. I can see some tight and relatively low scoring games; and they are the exciting ones. I'll be up most of every days play as my life due to my work is pretty nocturnal these days. Invest in an analogue radio though if you don't own one. TMS is a good 2 secs in front of satellite TV when listened to live on LW. BBC i-player Radio is 3 or 4 seconds behind and DAB at least 1.5. It's better to hear the action live and then watch it rather than the other way round. You'll need to listen to TMS because BT's commentary is gonna be pretty rank I reckon. There is nothing better than on Christmas Night having a cold meat and salad sarni with some pickled onions and a glass or two of ale whilst watching the first session of the Boxing Day Test from The "G". I do it every year regardless of the opposition. It's gonna be a massive crowd this year, way over 80,000 and the atmosphere will be brilliant.
I know these things are always highly subjective but that side is very questionable to say the least.
Anderson above Trueman, Snow or Willis? He has a ton of wickets but that's not to say he was a better bowler.
Border was a great player but spent the first eight years of his Test career getting battered by England before the tide turned in 1989.
If you are going to look back to Jack Hobbs then you'd be hard pushed to select Border over the great Walter Hammond (average 58.8 from 85 Tests), Denis Compton (average 50 from 70 Tests) or Len Hutton (average 56.6 from 79 Tests) or even Graham Gooch (average 49 from 119 Tests).
Four Englishmen is too light and Gilchrist is basically getting picked for his batting rather than his keeping which was no more than adequate, not in the same class as many 'specialist' keepers including Knott and Healy.
I know these things are always highly subjective but that side is very questionable to say the least.
Anderson above Trueman, Snow or Willis? He has a ton of wickets but that's not to say he was a better bowler.
Border was a great player but spent the first eight years of his Test career getting battered by England before the tide turned in 1989.
If you are going to look back to Jack Hobbs then you'd be hard pushed to select Border over the great Walter Hammond (average 58.8 from 85 Tests), Denis Compton (average 50 from 70 Tests) or Len Hutton (average 56.6 from 79 Tests) or even Graham Gooch (average 49 from 119 Tests).
Four Englishmen is too light and Gilchrist is basically getting picked for his batting rather than his keeping which was no more than adequate, not in the same class as many 'specialist' keepers including Knott and Healy.
Great post. Only thing I will dispute is the wicket keeper issue. There is no greater fan than me of Knotty - he was one of my heroes growing up. However, in picking the side, I had to consider not only the massive impact that Gilchrist had batting at 7 but also the fact that keeping is all about the relationship that the keeper has with the bowler, something that is far more relevant when standing up to spin.
In this respect, Gilchrist knew Warne inside out. Had I picked Underwood as the spinner then, for the same reason, it would have been Knotty.
I know these things are always highly subjective but that side is very questionable to say the least.
Anderson above Trueman, Snow or Willis? He has a ton of wickets but that's not to say he was a better bowler.
Border was a great player but spent the first eight years of his Test career getting battered by England before the tide turned in 1989.
If you are going to look back to Jack Hobbs then you'd be hard pushed to select Border over the great Walter Hammond (average 58.8 from 85 Tests), Denis Compton (average 50 from 70 Tests) or Len Hutton (average 56.6 from 79 Tests) or even Graham Gooch (average 49 from 119 Tests).
Four Englishmen is too light and Gilchrist is basically getting picked for his batting rather than his keeping which was no more than adequate, not in the same class as many 'specialist' keepers including Knott and Healy.
Great post. Only thing I will dispute is the wicket keeper issue. There is no greater fan than me of Knotty - he was one of my heroes growing up. However, in picking the side, I had to consider not only the massive impact that Gilchrist had batting at 7 but also the fact that keeping is all about the relationship that the keeper has with the bowler, something that is far more relevant when standing up to spin.
In this respect, Gilchrist knew Warne inside out. Had I picked Underwood as the spinner then, for the same reason, it would have been Knotty.
Whenever I think back on Knott I always tend to remember him batting with Greigy, a real little and large partnership, but really effective( although this might be my memory playing tricks.
I know these things are always highly subjective but that side is very questionable to say the least.
Anderson above Trueman, Snow or Willis? He has a ton of wickets but that's not to say he was a better bowler.
Border was a great player but spent the first eight years of his Test career getting battered by England before the tide turned in 1989.
If you are going to look back to Jack Hobbs then you'd be hard pushed to select Border over the great Walter Hammond (average 58.8 from 85 Tests), Denis Compton (average 50 from 70 Tests) or Len Hutton (average 56.6 from 79 Tests) or even Graham Gooch (average 49 from 119 Tests).
Four Englishmen is too light and Gilchrist is basically getting picked for his batting rather than his keeping which was no more than adequate, not in the same class as many 'specialist' keepers including Knott and Healy.
Great post. Only thing I will dispute is the wicket keeper issue. There is no greater fan than me of Knotty - he was one of my heroes growing up. However, in picking the side, I had to consider not only the massive impact that Gilchrist had batting at 7 but also the fact that keeping is all about the relationship that the keeper has with the bowler, something that is far more relevant when standing up to spin.
In this respect, Gilchrist knew Warne inside out. Had I picked Underwood as the spinner then, for the same reason, it would have been Knotty.
Whenever I think back on Knott I always tend to remember him batting with Greigy, a real little and large partnership, but really effective( although this might be my memory playing tricks.
Funny because I seem to remember him batting with Illingworth. Knotty "the irritant" probably did both!
Not a massive fan of women's cricket but I have to say the keeping from Taylor and Healy, who has just taken three catches in the latest T20 including a fantastic one handed one low down, is absolute top class.
England 19-4 off 5 overs - and the top score is extras with 11!!!
Always thought Shepherd Neame should name one of their pubs...”Caught Knott bowled Underwood.”
With you on that one - one of the iconic dismissals from my youth watching Kent in the summer holidays. Also remember Deadly being a great partnership breaker, invariably coming on after the quicks had gone for a few and getting a wicket in his first over.
I know these things are always highly subjective but that side is very questionable to say the least.
Anderson above Trueman, Snow or Willis? He has a ton of wickets but that's not to say he was a better bowler.
Border was a great player but spent the first eight years of his Test career getting battered by England before the tide turned in 1989.
If you are going to look back to Jack Hobbs then you'd be hard pushed to select Border over the great Walter Hammond (average 58.8 from 85 Tests), Denis Compton (average 50 from 70 Tests) or Len Hutton (average 56.6 from 79 Tests) or even Graham Gooch (average 49 from 119 Tests).
Four Englishmen is too light and Gilchrist is basically getting picked for his batting rather than his keeping which was no more than adequate, not in the same class as many 'specialist' keepers including Knott and Healy.
Great post. Only thing I will dispute is the wicket keeper issue. There is no greater fan than me of Knotty - he was one of my heroes growing up. However, in picking the side, I had to consider not only the massive impact that Gilchrist had batting at 7 but also the fact that keeping is all about the relationship that the keeper has with the bowler, something that is far more relevant when standing up to spin.
In this respect, Gilchrist knew Warne inside out. Had I picked Underwood as the spinner then, for the same reason, it would have been Knotty.
Firstly with the batting you have 1-6 you don't need Gilchrist's batting talents at 7 and secondly, Knott was such a great keeper he'd have taken only a couple of hours in the nets to work out Warne. Has to be Knotty.
I know these things are always highly subjective but that side is very questionable to say the least.
Anderson above Trueman, Snow or Willis? He has a ton of wickets but that's not to say he was a better bowler.
Border was a great player but spent the first eight years of his Test career getting battered by England before the tide turned in 1989.
If you are going to look back to Jack Hobbs then you'd be hard pushed to select Border over the great Walter Hammond (average 58.8 from 85 Tests), Denis Compton (average 50 from 70 Tests) or Len Hutton (average 56.6 from 79 Tests) or even Graham Gooch (average 49 from 119 Tests).
Four Englishmen is too light and Gilchrist is basically getting picked for his batting rather than his keeping which was no more than adequate, not in the same class as many 'specialist' keepers including Knott and Healy.
Great post. Only thing I will dispute is the wicket keeper issue. There is no greater fan than me of Knotty - he was one of my heroes growing up. However, in picking the side, I had to consider not only the massive impact that Gilchrist had batting at 7 but also the fact that keeping is all about the relationship that the keeper has with the bowler, something that is far more relevant when standing up to spin.
In this respect, Gilchrist knew Warne inside out. Had I picked Underwood as the spinner then, for the same reason, it would have been Knotty.
Whenever I think back on Knott I always tend to remember him batting with Greigy, a real little and large partnership, but really effective( although this might be my memory playing tricks.
Funny because I seem to remember him batting with Illingworth. Knotty "the irritant" probably did both!
Remember Knott and Grieg putting on a few against the Windies in '76, both scored 116.
I know these things are always highly subjective but that side is very questionable to say the least.
Anderson above Trueman, Snow or Willis? He has a ton of wickets but that's not to say he was a better bowler.
Border was a great player but spent the first eight years of his Test career getting battered by England before the tide turned in 1989.
If you are going to look back to Jack Hobbs then you'd be hard pushed to select Border over the great Walter Hammond (average 58.8 from 85 Tests), Denis Compton (average 50 from 70 Tests) or Len Hutton (average 56.6 from 79 Tests) or even Graham Gooch (average 49 from 119 Tests).
Four Englishmen is too light and Gilchrist is basically getting picked for his batting rather than his keeping which was no more than adequate, not in the same class as many 'specialist' keepers including Knott and Healy.
Great post. Only thing I will dispute is the wicket keeper issue. There is no greater fan than me of Knotty - he was one of my heroes growing up. However, in picking the side, I had to consider not only the massive impact that Gilchrist had batting at 7 but also the fact that keeping is all about the relationship that the keeper has with the bowler, something that is far more relevant when standing up to spin.
In this respect, Gilchrist knew Warne inside out. Had I picked Underwood as the spinner then, for the same reason, it would have been Knotty.
Firstly with the batting you have 1-6 you don't need Gilchrist's batting talents at 7 and secondly, Knott was such a great keeper he'd have taken only a couple of hours in the nets to work out Warne. Has to be Knotty.
Even though I was a big Knott fan, Gilchrest would shade it for me. Not as good a keeper, but what a batsman. Watched him dismantle a good South African attack at Newlands a week after hitting a run a ball 200 a week earlier. Also unusually for a modern cricketer, an Australian at that,he would walk when he nicked it.
Any Lifers in Brisbane for the Test? Sort of “can’t wait” but “worried we’ll fall apart”. As others have said, it might hinge on one or two from either side stepping up.
Even though I was a big Knott fan, Gilchrest would shade it for me. Not as good a keeper, but what a batsman. Watched him dismantle a good South African attack at Newlands a week after hitting a run a ball 200 a week earlier. Also unusually for a modern cricketer, an Australian at that,he would walk when he nicked it.
But surely if you are picking the best ever you pick the best keeper available. You've got the best batsmen you don't need another one at No.7
Any Lifers in Brisbane for the Test? Sort of “can’t wait” but “worried we’ll fall apart”. As others have said, it might hinge on one or two from either side stepping up.
Any Lifers in Brisbane for the Test? Sort of “can’t wait” but “worried we’ll fall apart”. As others have said, it might hinge on one or two from either side stepping up.
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Paine hasn't kept all summer and only done so in three Sheffield Shield matches in the last two years. He also has just one first class hundred to his name. Little wonder that the selection has met with outrage. As stated previously, we shouldn't believe that all is rosy in the Aussie garden.
I thought the team is only announced tomorrow, or are these Aussie Cricket Twitter ITK’s. These ITK’s get everywhere.
So, that's a very long winded way of saying "no he doesn't!"
BUT
Even though Stokes is out I think they are weak in areas that we can exploit
Do I buy BT for 4 months ?
There is nothing better than on Christmas Night having a cold meat and salad sarni with some pickled onions and a glass or two of ale whilst watching the first session of the Boxing Day Test from The "G". I do it every year regardless of the opposition. It's gonna be a massive crowd this year, way over 80,000 and the atmosphere will be brilliant.
Anderson above Trueman, Snow or Willis? He has a ton of wickets but that's not to say he was a better bowler.
Border was a great player but spent the first eight years of his Test career getting battered by England before the tide turned in 1989.
If you are going to look back to Jack Hobbs then you'd be hard pushed to select Border over the great Walter Hammond (average 58.8 from 85 Tests), Denis Compton (average 50 from 70 Tests) or Len Hutton (average 56.6 from 79 Tests) or even Graham Gooch (average 49 from 119 Tests).
Four Englishmen is too light and Gilchrist is basically getting picked for his batting rather than his keeping which was no more than adequate, not in the same class as many 'specialist' keepers including Knott and Healy.
In this respect, Gilchrist knew Warne inside out. Had I picked Underwood as the spinner then, for the same reason, it would have been Knotty.
England 19-4 off 5 overs - and the top score is extras with 11!!!
I reckon the general level of public interest is between 'very low and extremely low'