On 9th August 2017, in preparation for the formation of the Roland Out Today Party, two members of ROT spent about twenty minutes talking with Roland Duchâtelet about the protests, the fans, Yann Kermorgant, Chris Powell, Peter Varney, and the likely sale of the club.
Here is the first in a series of excerpts, taken from the transcript of that discussion.
Duchâtelet on Yann Kermogant:
RD: – Do you have any thoughts of why the protests were initiated in the first place?
ROT 1: – Yeah many, many
RD: – And why were they initiated in the first place?
ROT 1: – I think because soon after you took control of the club, several favourite players were sold
RD: - (interrupts) – which players?
ROT 1: – Yann Kermorgant?
RD: – Yann Kermorgant – you know what he did Yann Kermorgant?
ROT 1: – No, I don't know
RD: – Ah! That's the problem, that's the problem, you don't know
ROT 2: – No
RD: – And we were too kind with that guy, huh, he came to us huh, and he said, Yann Kermorgant huh, I don't want to play anymore. Yann Kermorgant you have a contract, ah he said but I’m ah, I will not play anymore, I will go to my doctor and say I can’t play anymore, I want a new contract, a much higher contract, or I wanna go. That's what happened. And this is a (points at table for effect) a disgusting guy, Kermorgant, disgusting guy
ROT 2: – Mmmm
RD: – By the way, he is not an English player no?
ROT 1: – No, he is a Breton
RD: – He's a French guy
ROT 2: – Yeah
RD: – But he has been very dishonest with us huh, been disgusting with us huh, in terms of he used the situation because he was one of, he was basically the best player on the team at that time
ROT 2: – Yeah
RD: – And he used his situation to blackmail us huh? That if we wouldn't give him a much better contract then he wouldn't play anymore
ROT 1: – Well I'm sure that happens
RD: – Well there's one thing you should know about me huh, I never ever give in to blackmail, never ever
ROT 2: – No
RD: – And I didn't give in. But the other thing you have to know about me also, I do not, I do not blame other people er or anything else, because I er it's not my culture to spit on anybody else or whatever, so I'm just not going to get into that kind of thing, ok that’s what er, and er we at that moment in time it was full of fair players from Standard Liege, and ok we maintained the, the, we kept up in the League and it was not that bad.
So he doesn’t blame other people when things go wrong. Good, can’t wait for him to fess up to fecking up our club then. Guess Daisy is the complete opposite.
On 9th August 2017, in preparation for the formation of the Roland Out Today Party, two members of ROT spent about twenty minutes talking with Roland Duchâtelet about the protests, the fans, Yann Kermorgant, Chris Powell, Peter Varney, and the likely sale of the club.
Here is the first in a series of excerpts, taken from the transcript of that discussion.
Duchâtelet on Yann Kermogant:
RD: – Do you have any thoughts of why the protests were initiated in the first place?
ROT 1: – Yeah many, many
RD: – And why were they initiated in the first place?
ROT 1: – I think because soon after you took control of the club, several favourite players were sold
RD: - (interrupts) – which players?
ROT 1: – Yann Kermorgant?
RD: – Yann Kermorgant – you know what he did Yann Kermorgant?
ROT 1: – No, I don't know
RD: – Ah! That's the problem, that's the problem, you don't know
ROT 2: – No
RD: – And we were too kind with that guy, huh, he came to us huh, and he said, Yann Kermorgant huh, I don't want to play anymore. Yann Kermorgant you have a contract, ah he said but I’m ah, I will not play anymore, I will go to my doctor and say I can’t play anymore, I want a new contract, a much higher contract, or I wanna go. That's what happened. And this is a (points at table for effect) a disgusting guy, Kermorgant, disgusting guy
ROT 2: – Mmmm
RD: – By the way, he is not an English player no?
ROT 1: – No, he is a Breton
RD: – He's a French guy
ROT 2: – Yeah
RD: – But he has been very dishonest with us huh, been disgusting with us huh, in terms of he used the situation because he was one of, he was basically the best player on the team at that time
ROT 2: – Yeah
RD: – And he used his situation to blackmail us huh? That if we wouldn't give him a much better contract then he wouldn't play anymore
ROT 1: – Well I'm sure that happens
RD: – Well there's one thing you should know about me huh, I never ever give in to blackmail, never ever
ROT 2: – No
RD: – And I didn't give in. But the other thing you have to know about me also, I do not, I do not blame other people er or anything else, because I er it's not my culture to spit on anybody else or whatever, so I'm just not going to get into that kind of thing, ok that’s what er, and er we at that moment in time it was full of fair players from Standard Liege, and ok we maintained the, the, we kept up in the League and it was not that bad.
Yann was so much of a dishonest and disgusting person, who blackmailed the club that they tried to resign him within the last 2 years!
The fact he called Powell a liar, and then emails proving Powell correct came out : then effectively calling Varney a liar when I tried to speak about a takeover, just shows what kind of loser this guy is!
Blames Kermorgant for ‘using the situatuon’ Against Charlton - Yann actively sought a new contract and then was told He couldn’t have it as it couldn’t be afforded by TJ/MS ... so when a near billionaire taking over the business of course he’s going to be asking for that improved contract again! Crazy
I would like to point out that whilst they were a factor and pissed us all off the selling of Yann (and Dale and others) and the sacking of Powell were not the causes of the protest starting. Protests didn't start properly until more than a year later (Woolwich meeting and then B&W more than 6 months after that). By which point they had more than a year to learn from their mistakes learn the league and get us competitive which was their own stated aim. Instead they had failed miserably at every possible aspect. They had failed at 3 transfer windows 1 being absolutely horrendous and the CEO had on multiple occasions publicly dismissed, insulted and lied to fans. Revolving door of managers coaches and players. A huge number of important positions at the club were empty (chief scout, doctor etc). We had a geeky computer kid doing our scouting and a senile old fool telling the manager which team to play and which formation. We were letting quality players go for free (Morro) and replacing them with shite.
Those actions were not the trigger they were simply the first in an incredibly long line of unmitigated failures by the club's senior management. That collective disaster was the reason for the protests
I would like to point out that whilst they were a factor and pissed us all off the selling of Yann (and Dale and others) and the sacking of Powell were not the causes of the protest starting. Protests didn't start properly until more than a year later (Woolwich meeting and then B&W more than 6 months after that). By which point they had more than a year to learn from their mistakes learn the league and get us competitive which was their own stated aim. Instead they had failed miserably at every possible aspect. They had failed at 3 transfer windows 1 being absolutely horrendous and the CEO had on multiple occasions publicly dismissed, insulted and lied to fans. Revolving door of managers coaches and players. A huge number of important positions at the club were empty (chief scout, doctor etc). We had a geeky computer kid doing our scouting and a senile old fool telling the manager which team to play and which formation. We were letting quality players go for free (Morro) and replacing them with shite.
Those actions were not the trigger they were simply the first in an incredibly long line of unmitigated failures by the club's senior management. That collective disaster was the reason for the protests
Very true.
ROT 1 was offering reasons, starting from the beginning but didn't get very far before being interupted by Duchâtelet
It sounds like Yann was trying to negotiate with them - they had to decide whether he was worth a new contract or not. I doubt he was doing anything that most other players would do when they understand their importance to the team and their contract was running down. Is Duchatelet really that naive? He calls Powell an idiot and Yann is dishonest! It is always the fault of others with him.
So the Douchbag is 100% wrong with his character assessment of two club legends from my experience of meeting with both individuals and that of many others on here. Still he's always right of course and the rest of the world can go screw itself. If that's what being stinking rich does to you I'm glad to be a pauper, relatively speaking. The bloke never fails to portray himself as an oxygen thief.
I would like to point out that whilst they were a factor and pissed us all off the selling of Yann (and Dale and others) and the sacking of Powell were not the causes of the protest starting. Protests didn't start properly until more than a year later (Woolwich meeting and then B&W more than 6 months after that). By which point they had more than a year to learn from their mistakes learn the league and get us competitive which was their own stated aim. Instead they had failed miserably at every possible aspect. They had failed at 3 transfer windows 1 being absolutely horrendous and the CEO had on multiple occasions publicly dismissed, insulted and lied to fans. Revolving door of managers coaches and players. A huge number of important positions at the club were empty (chief scout, doctor etc). We had a geeky computer kid doing our scouting and a senile old fool telling the manager which team to play and which formation. We were letting quality players go for free (Morro) and replacing them with shite.
Those actions were not the trigger they were simply the first in an incredibly long line of unmitigated failures by the club's senior management. That collective disaster was the reason for the protests
Very true.
ROT 1 was offering reasons, starting from the beginning but didn't get very far before being interupted by Duchâtelet
Of course. I know you guys know that and expect nothing less!
Just wanted to emphasise the point if there were any in doubt of the facts.
Mr Big, great post as ever. I love the work you and your friends have been doing in his back yard, there's no doubt it gets to him. For context, could you tell us a bit about RD's understanding of who he was talking to?
Mr Big, great post as ever. I love the work you and your friends have been doing in his back yard, there's no doubt it gets to him. For context, could you tell us a bit about RD's understanding of who he was talking to?
Mr Duchâtelet understood he was just having a chat with a couple of Charlton fans.
He is interested in the nationality of people. Often he mentions it early on in interviews and he seems ready to judge and stereotype a person in those terms. Do we have an owner who is fundamentally a racist?
Not racist, but ethnicity plays a huge part in a country divided so deeply by language.
RD was so unguarded in this conversation, but then why should he worry - they were only a couple of football fans, right? No wonder the SL fans took to him so well - NOT
One of the interesting things is that Duchâtelet acknowledges Yann as being the best player in the team at that time.
But still they got rid of him.
But he clearly didn't recognise it at the time - there is ample evidence for this. He just wants to re-write history. On that transcript - why bring up that Yann isn't English? He really is a distasteful piece of merde! The truth was that clubs were sniffing around Yann and at his age he wanted a decent contract and had a barganing position. The club that did secure his services got promoted and he played a big part in that!
I'm not sure that these are all Duchatelets words. Ok, he is saying them, but you do get the feel that is just relaying Meires words. We all know now that he didnt give an eff about Charltons performance from the off, he just wanted a little play thing for his female protege, and he wanted to do things his way - knowing, in his own little world, that everyone's elses way was clearly wrong.
He simply never has given a shyte about us fans or the cloob......to him we just represent £ notes, nothing more nothing less. We got in the way of his bizarre experiment from the get go and one assumes will eternally blame us for its dismal failure. He came along and some would say saved the club. The Parkes for example will let you know that within minutes of talking to them and they seem to make that their whole basis of thinking we should somehow be be eternally grateful......well that may or may not be true but that doesn’t give him the right to go on screwing us over for year after year in a crazy scheme that never has, nor ever will, succeed. The plan has failed spectacularly.....he now wants out (little wonder) but seems unable to come to terms and admit what a colossal cluster fuck he has created. Maybe he did save the Addicks, but at an enormous cost, one that we simply can’t go on being ‘grateful’ for for ever. Just sell the club ASAP and creep back to Belgium with the bloody nose that you so thoroughly deserve, being sure to take that daft, out of her depth cow, with you.
He simply never has given a shyte about us fans or the cloob......to him we just represent £ notes, nothing more nothing less. We got in the way of his bizarre experiment from the get go and one assumes will eternally blame us for its dismal failure. He came along and some would say saved the club. The Parkes for example will let you know that within minutes of talking to them and they seem to make that their whole basis of thinking we should somehow be be eternally grateful......well that may or may not be true but that doesn’t give him the right to go on screwing us over for year after year in a crazy scheme that never has, nor ever will, succeed. The plan has failed spectacularly.....he now wants out (little wonder) but seems unable to come to terms and admit what a colossal cluster fuck he has created. Maybe he did save the Addicks, but at an enormous cost, one that we simply can’t go on being ‘grateful’ for for ever. Just sell the club ASAP and creep back to Belgium with the bloody nose that you so thoroughly deserve, being sure to take that daft, out of her depth cow, with you.
He most certainly did not save the club. It's not as though we were about to fold was it? Clubs fold once in a blue moon and not a club with the history and facilities and proximity to London of Charlton. We may have gone into administration but there are many examples of clubs coming back stronger afterwards. I would suggest that we are in a far more precarious position now than when Duchatelet took over.
If he saved us, it would only have been instead of a better owner saving us! It is a stupid argument - we were never in danger of going out of business - we were just about to be sold - people buy football clubs - they bought them before Roland and they will continue buying them after. We have absolutely nothing to be grateful for.
I’d admire their efforts of getting Roland out but at the same time it seems a waste of time. For starters, they’re not living in Belgium and who would honestly vote for them unless their first priority is getting Roland out.
I’d admire their efforts of getting Roland out but at the same time it seems a waste of time. For starters, they’re not living in Belgium and who would honestly vote for them unless their first priority is getting Roland out.
I think that you might be taking it a bit too seriously. I'm sure that the idea is to threaten embarrassment to him and, if it goes that far, I'm sure that there will be plenty of voters happy to cast their anti-Roland vote. He isn't particularly well liked by the locals you know.
I’d admire their efforts of getting Roland out but at the same time it seems a waste of time. For starters, they’re not living in Belgium and who would honestly vote for them unless their first priority is getting Roland out.
Disco......do you really think the objective is to win votes........it would be cool if we did but that is neither the expectation nor the reason for having a fan standing. Have you honestly not understood that fella, surely you must have?
I’d admire their efforts of getting Roland out but at the same time it seems a waste of time. For starters, they’re not living in Belgium and who would honestly vote for them unless their first priority is getting Roland out.
I think that you might be taking it a bit too seriously. I'm sure that the idea is too threaten embarrassment to him and, if it goes that far, I'm sure that there will be plenty of voters happy to cast their anti-Roland vote. He isn't particularly well like by the locals you know.
The Sint Truiden equivalent of the Raving Loony party in the last ST elections got something like 200 votes - so , there's hope yet for ROT (not that its full of Loonies , of course). Of course, as several have said, the idea isn't to try to form the next Belgian Government, but to try to embarrass him in his own backyard.
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Here is the first in a series of excerpts, taken from the transcript of that discussion.
Duchâtelet on Yann Kermogant:
RD: – Do you have any thoughts of why the protests were initiated in the first place?
ROT 1: – Yeah many, many
RD: – And why were they initiated in the first place?
ROT 1: – I think because soon after you took control of the club, several favourite players were sold
RD: - (interrupts) – which players?
ROT 1: – Yann Kermorgant?
RD: – Yann Kermorgant – you know what he did Yann Kermorgant?
ROT 1: – No, I don't know
RD: – Ah! That's the problem, that's the problem, you don't know
ROT 2: – No
RD: – And we were too kind with that guy, huh, he came to us huh, and he said, Yann Kermorgant huh, I don't want to play anymore. Yann Kermorgant you have a contract, ah he said but I’m ah, I will not play anymore, I will go to my doctor and say I can’t play anymore, I want a new contract, a much higher contract, or I wanna go. That's what happened. And this is a (points at table for effect) a disgusting guy, Kermorgant, disgusting guy
ROT 2: – Mmmm
RD: – By the way, he is not an English player no?
ROT 1: – No, he is a Breton
RD: – He's a French guy
ROT 2: – Yeah
RD: – But he has been very dishonest with us huh, been disgusting with us huh, in terms of he used the situation because he was one of, he was basically the best player on the team at that time
ROT 2: – Yeah
RD: – And he used his situation to blackmail us huh? That if we wouldn't give him a much better contract then he wouldn't play anymore
ROT 1: – Well I'm sure that happens
RD: – Well there's one thing you should know about me huh, I never ever give in to blackmail, never ever
ROT 2: – No
RD: – And I didn't give in. But the other thing you have to know about me also, I do not, I do not blame other people er or anything else, because I er it's not my culture to spit on anybody else or whatever, so I'm just not going to get into that kind of thing, ok that’s what er, and er we at that moment in time it was full of fair players from Standard Liege, and ok we maintained the, the, we kept up in the League and it was not that bad.
The fact he called Powell a liar, and then emails proving Powell correct came out : then effectively calling Varney a liar when I tried to speak about a takeover, just shows what kind of loser this guy is!
Blames Kermorgant for ‘using the situatuon’ Against Charlton - Yann actively sought a new contract and then was told He couldn’t have it as it couldn’t be afforded by TJ/MS ... so when a near billionaire taking over the business of course he’s going to be asking for that improved contract again! Crazy
I would like to point out that whilst they were a factor and pissed us all off the selling of Yann (and Dale and others) and the sacking of Powell were not the causes of the protest starting. Protests didn't start properly until more than a year later (Woolwich meeting and then B&W more than 6 months after that). By which point they had more than a year to learn from their mistakes learn the league and get us competitive which was their own stated aim. Instead they had failed miserably at every possible aspect. They had failed at 3 transfer windows 1 being absolutely horrendous and the CEO had on multiple occasions publicly dismissed, insulted and lied to fans. Revolving door of managers coaches and players. A huge number of important positions at the club were empty (chief scout, doctor etc). We had a geeky computer kid doing our scouting and a senile old fool telling the manager which team to play and which formation. We were letting quality players go for free (Morro) and replacing them with shite.
Those actions were not the trigger they were simply the first in an incredibly long line of unmitigated failures by the club's senior management. That collective disaster was the reason for the protests
ROT 1 was offering reasons, starting from the beginning but didn't get very far before being interupted by Duchâtelet
Just wanted to emphasise the point if there were any in doubt of the facts.
But still they got rid of him.
Do we have an owner who is fundamentally a racist?
Not racist, but ethnicity plays a huge part in a country divided so deeply by language.
RD was so unguarded in this conversation, but then why should he worry - they were only a couple of football fans, right? No wonder the SL fans took to him so well - NOT
But he clearly didn't recognise it at the time - there is ample evidence for this. He just wants to re-write history. On that transcript - why bring up that Yann isn't English? He really is a distasteful piece of merde! The truth was that clubs were sniffing around Yann and at his age he wanted a decent contract and had a barganing position. The club that did secure his services got promoted and he played a big part in that!
We got in the way of his bizarre experiment from the get go and one assumes will eternally blame us for its dismal failure.
He came along and some would say saved the club.
The Parkes for example will let you know that within minutes of talking to them and they seem to make that their whole basis of thinking we should somehow be be eternally grateful......well that may or may not be true but that doesn’t give him the right to go on screwing us over for year after year in a crazy scheme that never has, nor ever will, succeed.
The plan has failed spectacularly.....he now wants out (little wonder) but seems unable to come to terms and admit what a colossal cluster fuck he has created.
Maybe he did save the Addicks, but at an enormous cost, one that we simply can’t go on being ‘grateful’ for for ever.
Just sell the club ASAP and creep back to Belgium with the bloody nose that you so thoroughly deserve, being sure to take that daft, out of her depth cow, with you.
Clubs fold once in a blue moon and not a club with the history and facilities and proximity to London of Charlton.
We may have gone into administration but there are many examples of clubs coming back stronger afterwards.
I would suggest that we are in a far more precarious position now than when Duchatelet took over.
Have you honestly not understood that fella, surely you must have?
Of course, as several have said, the idea isn't to try to form the next Belgian Government, but to try to embarrass him in his own backyard.