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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    edited November 2024
    More from Friday's donation

    In 1922/3 division 3 South Charlton Athletic , playing in the FA Cup for the first time as a league side, went on an incredible giant killing run, defeating top flight Man City and Preston before taking on a third 1st division side at The Valley, West Brom, winning 1 - 0

    Programmes from this era are very hard to find so we were very happy to get this one.



  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    Interesting how the club was billing itself in those days as 'Charlton Athletic Football Company, Ltd.' Rather than as Charlton Athletic Football Club. I know the club had only been incorporated in 1919, and I'm sure the board were proud, especially given their meteoric rise from humble beginnings, but was this a usual way for football clubs to describe themselves? 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    Stig said:
    Interesting how the club was billing itself in those days as 'Charlton Athletic Football Company, Ltd.' Rather than as Charlton Athletic Football Club. I know the club had only been incorporated in 1919, and I'm sure the board were proud, especially given their meteoric rise from humble beginnings, but was this a usual way for football clubs to describe themselves? 
    The club used "Football Company Ltd"  from the first season in the league but more of that later.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215

    Another part of Friday's fantastic donations

    After beating Man City, Preston and West Brom, Division 3 South Charlton took on a 4th 1st division side in Bolton Wanderers in the FA Cup fourth round, equivilent of the Quarter final.

    A then record 41,023 Valley crowd (league average was 6,175 that season) saw Bolton win 0 - 1.

    Wanderers went on to win the Cup in the first Wembly final.

    Much of the money Charlton made from the game was spent on compensation to those injured when fencing collapsed as Kosha Goodman was about to score.



  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    You can watch highlights of the Bolton game on the museum's YouTube channel

    1922/23 Charlton Athletic V Bolton Wanderers FAC 4th RD - YouTube
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    edited November 2024
    Yet more from Friday's donations

    Before the start of the 1921/22 season, the first in the football league, two sides made up of Charlton players, Reds v Whites, played each other in a public practice match.

    This programme is rarer than the one that followed it v Exeter.

    The Whites won 1 - 0


  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    edited November 2024
    You can watch highlights of the Bolton game on the museum's YouTube channel

    1922/23 Charlton Athletic V Bolton Wanderers FAC 4th RD - YouTube
    It seems incredible that the referee officiated that match wearing a blazer. At what point did they realise that such attire was ridiculous and bring in proper referees kits?



  • Is this is the programme for the Reds v Whites practice match, advertising the first game of the season?

    Can't be many of these around...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215



    Is this is the programme for the Reds v Whites practice match, advertising the first game of the season?

    Can't be many of these around...
    Yes it is.

    Our programme collector trustee doesn't even have a copy, so it must be very rare.

    Whites won 1 -0

    The previous year the Blues beat the reds 3 - 2 and in 1922 the first team beat the Rest 3 - 0.

    In 1923 it was Reds 3 - 1 Greys then Red/White, Red/blue and even white/blue a few times.

    Last such game listed in home and away was August 1960  Reds 5 - 1 Whites 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021



    Is this is the programme for the Reds v Whites practice match, advertising the first game of the season?

    Can't be many of these around...
    Yes it is.

    Our programme collector trustee doesn't even have a copy, so it must be very rare.

    Whites won 1 -0

    The previous year the Blues beat the reds 3 - 2 and in 1922 the first team beat the Rest 3 - 0.

    In 1923 it was Reds 3 - 1 Greys then Red/White, Red/blue and even white/blue a few times.

    Last such game listed in home and away was August 1960  Reds 5 - 1 Whites 
    #JustWearRed
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    A very special donation from last Friday

    The programme from Charlton's first ever league game in August 1921, only 10 seasons after being formed by 15 year old boys starting a team on a street corner.

    The stand isn't ready but the board hope the support will come

    13,000 see Tommy Dowling score the only goal in a 1 - 0 win

    There will be a few ups and downs over the next 103 years





    And no, @ElfsborgAddick it's not for sale
  • Were programmes a thing pre league football and if so does the museum have any?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    Were programmes a thing pre league football and if so does the museum have any?
    It seems we only started programmes when we came to the Valley.

    The oldest known home programme is from Christmas Day 1919 when we beat local rivals Ordnance 8 - 0.

    It is on display in the museum.The Evolution of the Charlton programme  Charlton Life



    We know of later programmes from the same season but none before so we believe it was the first.

    The oldest known Charlton programme is from an away game at Dulwich Hamlet before WW1.
  • That's some inflation... 100% increase.on programme price in less than 2yrs!

    Does the museum have the Dulwich Hamlet one?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    That's some inflation... 100% increase.on programme price in less than 2yrs!

    Does the museum have the Dulwich Hamlet one?
    Higher league, higher prices.

    The museum doesn't have a copy but one of the trustees does
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    We've been adding to our collection of #cafc matchworn shirts.

    The aim is to build the archive now rather than have to plug gaps in years ahead.

    We're open today from 11 - 1.00 and again on Friday 21 Dec 11 - 2.30 but we're closed on Boxing Day.  Free entry in Harvey Gardens.




  • Yet more from Friday's donations

    Before the start of the 1921/22 season, the first in the football league, two sides made up of Charlton players, Reds v Whites, played each other in a public practice match.

    This programme is rarer than the one that followed it v Exeter.

    The Whites won 1 - 0


    Girls free or not allowed?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    Yet more from Friday's donations

    Before the start of the 1921/22 season, the first in the football league, two sides made up of Charlton players, Reds v Whites, played each other in a public practice match.

    This programme is rarer than the one that followed it v Exeter.

    The Whites won 1 - 0


    Girls free or not allowed?
    Paid same as boys
  • Woke nonsense.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    A few finds/donations from Friday

    This CD


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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    Official EFL tie, badge and cuff links donated by Steve Sutherland

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    Sorting old programmes, some of which were donated by Steve Gritt, and these fell out


  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    yes, we collect club shop bags
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    "Sam Bartram, Jimmy Seed, we won the FA Cup"
  • "Sam Bartram, Jimmy Seed, we won the FA Cup"
    Sam hasn’t aged that well looking at that pic 
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    "Sam Bartram, Jimmy Seed, we won the FA Cup"
    1 relic and a trophy
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    late  70s signed ball
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    some rare Watford items
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    A new visitors book and the first comments


  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    1999 baby kit