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Ricky to go? (Pg17 Gone)

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    "London News Online states that Holmes is now eyeing an exit with Charlton well adrift of the League One play-off places."

    Like 1 point adrift.

    Or are they being clairvoyant for April?

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Oggy Red said:

    "London News Online states that Holmes is now eyeing an exit with Charlton well adrift of the League One play-off places."

    Like 1 point adrift.

    Or are they being clairvoyant for April?

    #FAKENEWS
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Oggy Red said:

    "London News Online states that Holmes is now eyeing an exit with Charlton well adrift of the League One play-off places."

    Like 1 point adrift.

    Or are they being clairvoyant for April?

    More clickbait. No substance & mention Leeds as being interested in the summer. No new news

    crock of shit article.
  • I've heard Barcelona are interested....
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    He was scoring goals at the start of the season, but they have dried up and he looks an average League 1 player when the screamers aren't going in. He's a good runner with the ball, shoots well, and works hard for a winger - I don't really buy into the idea he's looked disinterested.

    Probably suffering a bit from all the chopping and changing, stopping and starting going on with our season, but he's not an especially creative player, has a tendency to try to do it on his own too much, and there is no denying he has not played particularly well for a few months now.

    If we were a club with ambition and the wherewithal to go and sign a replacement then I would not be too concerned about him leaving because he's not irreplaceable but the problem is, in our current situation, we won't sign anyone and we will lose one of the few players we have capable of turning a game for us. Making an already thin squad thinner.

    I don't, personally, think he will pull up any trees at Championship level, but you cant blame him for wanting to try at this stage of his career. It'll likely be his only chance and he did alright by us signing a new deal in the summer and giving us another season to see if he could get to the Championship with us. You can't really argue if his logic is that we probably won't get up so he should take the short cut of signing for Sheff U. Time is not in his side after all.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    Cant imagine there is much substance to it tbh.

    Even if they were interested, I think the lure of working with Wilder again would be to much of an incentive.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    I'm so sick of everything Charlton at the moment that i just couldn't care less, stay or go we will be in league 1 next season
  • Oh_Yoni_Boy
    Oh_Yoni_Boy Posts: 1,762
    edited January 2018

    I'm so sick of everything Charlton at the moment that i just couldn't care less, stay or go we will be in league 1 next season

    This.

    Although I don't think he's irreplaceable (for a normal club) and wouldn't be betting on him to do much in the Championship. JBG for example had similar production in the Champ for us compared to Ricky in League 1... And for me JBG for me is twice the player.

    Against flawed League 1 defenders Holmes can frighten them and earn chances by running at them, but he doesn't bring others into the game enough to be effective at a higher level, (just my opinion). Week in week out I feel like I watch Holmes get gradually sussed out, as good as he is for us.

    He can dribble, cross and shoot - which is more than most League 1 wingers... but in other circumstances getting a decent fee for him at 30 years old wouldn't be awful.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    DOUCHER said:

    Our most effective player by a country mile - don't blame him at all - similar to the Yann situation - to take a quote from the other forum, it looks like the takeover will torpedo our season - let's hope it's all worth it in the end - something needs to happen just a shame that wasn't in the summer after giving things a proper go this year. Wonder why it's all blown up now? Meire leaving???, Rumours affecting the players?? Poor run of results making further big spending inevitable?? or some genuine offers worthy of a proper DD finally coming in?? Who knows, just hope none of it involves any plans to move out of the Valley.

    Righto.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673

    I'm so sick of everything Charlton at the moment that i just couldn't care less, stay or go we will be in league 1 next season

    This.

    Although I don't think he's irreplaceable (for a normal club) and wouldn't be betting on him to do much in the Championship. JBG for example had similar production in the Champ for us compared to Ricky in League 1... And for me JBG for me is twice the player.

    Against flawed League 1 defenders Holmes can frighten them and earn chances by running at them, but he doesn't bring others into the game enough to be effective at a higher level, (just my opinion). Week in week out I feel like I watch Holmes get gradually sussed out, as good as he is for us.

    He can dribble, cross and shoot - which is more than most League 1 wingers... but in other circumstances getting a decent fee for him at 30 years old wouldn't be awful.
    If JBG was quicker i think he would be playing for a high end European side, his range of passing, vision and set piece abilities is something we haven't had since our Premier league days
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  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Only decent player at the club. Country mile above the rest and would hack it in the Championship when not surrounded by dross.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Forster-Caskey is the best player at the club by a distance for me
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    masicat said:

    Only decent player at the club. Country mile above the rest and would hack it in the Championship when not surrounded by dross.

    Rose tinted spectacles I fear. He was good last season & started ok this season, but his form has dipped alarmingly since October. One goal in 3 months & that was a free kick which most keepers would have dealt with. His corners have ben poor (and that's being kind) and now he isn't even taking the free kicks.

    I'm not saying he isn't a good player, but I don't think he'd start every game for a Championship side - maybe would get a start when they had injuries or as a 15/20 min sub.

    He undoubtedly would be missed, but lets not get carried away. He's no Parker, Bowyer or JBG.
  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,483
    Holmes going sheff utd Carruthers coming in plus £250.000.grand.done deal.lewington to sign aswell.he didn't want the be here so fuck him off.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    masicat said:

    Only decent player at the club. Country mile above the rest and would hack it in the Championship when not surrounded by dross.

    This is such utter nonsense
  • SOTF
    SOTF Posts: 1,149
    edited January 2018
    Rumours I've heard is that several promises made in order to convince him to sign a new deal he feels have been broken.

    If he goes I wish him all the best. His performances haven't been of the same consistency as last season but he could have thrown his toys out the pram after his request to speak to Sheff Utd was refused in the summer, but he quietly got on with it and kept his head down.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    Shrew said:

    tgarrat1 said:

    Swap him for Carruthers, apart from scoring the odd screamer he does very little! Runs down blind alleys, and gives the ball away constantly

    A hand in 13 goals out of the 33 so far. Scored six and seven assists, I'd say that is a bit more then 'does very little'
    Well said.

    The way players become "shit" at the first news of a transfer baffles me.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Different class. Just being dragged down ...
  • Of course he'd want to leave. Any player with ambition and confidence in being at least good enough for 3rd division football should be seriously considering their options.
    There's no loyalty in football and RD's man management policies plumb the deepest depths. The players know this and are responding accordingly, roly's reaping what he's sown. The die for this season is cast, only the viscosity of the shit teams below us can slow the slide down the division. For the players "anywhere but here" has to be better.
    The septicgenarian has always had a monetary value attached to every "asset", he'll take every offer that meets his expectations, cos now he's conducting a fire sale. The risible old berk has no capacity to understand that those departures further depreciate the one big "asset" he's supposedly looking to divest.
    Who would want to stick around? If RH can sort himself out smthn less dispiriting he'll be away - and good luck to him.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Holmes was good at the start of the season before he had a suspected broken foot which turned out to be severe bruising. He's not played well since.
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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651

    Holmes was good at the start of the season before he had a suspected broken foot which turned out to be severe bruising. He's not played well since.

    He is susceptible to foot injuries it seems. Twice when he was at Barnet, a chunk of last season and part of this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Holmes
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    If he doesn’t want to be here, then let him go, as far as I’m concerned.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    We’ve not delivered on any of the promises we probably made to him when he signed the new deal I imagine

    He’s gone of the boil a bit recently, but so has the whole team. He’s been by far an away a great player for us, not only his goals and skill but he puts a shift in. Personally I think he has every right to want to leave. Based on where we are and where we look like we’re going (without a takeover), why would he want to stay

    At his age he has one last shot at a higher level. Why would he stay on the rotting ship Duchâtelet.....he’s always tried his best in what has been an unstable environment. I wish him well if he leaves and thank him for his contribution. He’s been a ray of light in a dark, dark tunnel
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    I wonder if he really wanted to go at the start of the season when they were sniffing around.

    May have thought they'd struggle and with the thought of us pushing for promotion and being down south that staying put would be best, gets his championship football at charlton next season on his new contract, doesn't need to up sticks and move again etc rather than the one season in an area he doesn't really want to be in, tied to a contract at the end of his playing days.

    Now it's January, he hasn't been on his game for a while and with sheff united doing well..... Well.....yeah.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Sorry a very interesting video of Ricky today, his xmas day training video he had to send into KR, running around Southend Uniteds car park in xmas pants saying he had been chucked off the pitch.
    Assume he lives close by.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    Not concerned that he might leave. His head hasn't been right for months and he's a shadow of last year's player IMO.

    Concerned that he won't be adequately replaced.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Had me worried ? I thought you meant Rick Everitt was going.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    The fella is on the verge of becoming "Proper Charlton", there is no way he is going anywhere.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651

    The fella is on the verge of becoming "Proper Charlton", there is no way he is going anywhere.

    Like Yann Kermorgant was "Proper Charlton?"
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,632
    Heard we've had a big accepted by billericay for Jermaine Pennant and Jamie O Hara. A deal that katrien sorted just before she left.only 6 million what a deal