How comes when you release a player his salary can still be dead cap space for the team that no longer has him ?
Because of the way NFL contracts work.
We have guaranteed Blake money through next year - i.e. he's gonna get paid $15m (or so, I think) in 2019 - and that therefore counts against the overall spending cap.
NFL contracts aren't guaranteed - I'm probably a bit off/basic in my explanation and I don't know how best to articulate. @NapaAddick is probably better placed to explain (I'd appreciate any explanation too!).
It was a mistake paying him at the time and a mistake to go into this year with him as starting QB. It's no secret I don't rate him at all but they may have wasted this Superbowl window. It's fine replacing him next year, but the Jags have still wasted money on him which means they can't build talent around any future QB.
Okay what's your definition of "paying"? Because at the time, he was a middling QB, and we accordingly paid him a middling starting QB's wage. The mistake was probably picking up his 5th-year option.
Yes, we put our eggs into the Bortles game manager basket, given the way we run our offense, and it's backfired horrendously. Here are a few problems that aren't Bortles:
- a shit receiving corps (injuries and just generally being shit given Marqise Lee was gonna be our WR1 ffs, tipped interceptions, dropped catches etc)
- no O-line (onto our 4th starting LT which is Ereck Flowers lol, our franchise left tackle in Cam Robinson tore his ACL, LG on IR, C on IR, right hand side has been a bit of a turnstile)
- barely any running backs which is bad for a run-first offense (Fournette with his hamstring, Corey Grant out with a Lisfranc injury which is gutting, Yeldon playing when not 100%, so on so forth)
- apparently anyone off the street can play tight end? I dunno who we have on the roster any more, but at least two are on IR
- sharp defensive regression, which isn't helped by Calais Campbell playing when unfit and a spell where we had a rookie UDFA lining up for a load of the snaps in London against the Eagles
So we were very lucky to be healthy last year and we're now mega unlucky with injuries. The quick 180 has led to locker room disquiet (look at the London arrests, shitshow vs the Bills etc) and now it's just complete shit.
Don't get me wrong. Bortles is not the QB you want in this situation. He's not very good and his ceiling is pretty low, but we weren't wrong to pay him.
Now we're stuck in a situation where either we pay him $21m next year, or cut him and have $16.5m in dead cap. I'd rather have him as a backup for the $4.5m effective assuming we draft a QB (which we probably won't).
It's rubbish at the moment, but it definitely wasn't a mistake to pay Bortles the salary we gave him relative to other QBs not on their rookie deal. Hindsight is 20/20.
How comes when you release a player his salary can still be dead cap space for the team that no longer has him ?
Because of the way NFL contracts work.
We have guaranteed Blake money through next year - i.e. he's gonna get paid $15m (or so, I think) in 2019 - and that therefore counts against the overall spending cap.
NFL contracts aren't guaranteed - I'm probably a bit off/basic in my explanation and I don't know how best to articulate. @NapaAddick is probably better placed to explain (I'd appreciate any explanation too!).
It was a mistake paying him at the time and a mistake to go into this year with him as starting QB. It's no secret I don't rate him at all but they may have wasted this Superbowl window. It's fine replacing him next year, but the Jags have still wasted money on him which means they can't build talent around any future QB.
Okay what's your definition of "paying"? Because at the time, he was a middling QB, and we accordingly paid him a middling starting QB's wage. The mistake was probably picking up his 5th-year option.
Yes, we put our eggs into the Bortles game manager basket, given the way we run our offense, and it's backfired horrendously. Here are a few problems that aren't Bortles:
- a shit receiving corps (injuries and just generally being shit given Marqise Lee was gonna be our WR1 ffs, tipped interceptions, dropped catches etc)
- no O-line (onto our 4th starting LT which is Ereck Flowers lol, our franchise left tackle in Cam Robinson tore his ACL, LG on IR, C on IR, right hand side has been a bit of a turnstile)
- barely any running backs which is bad for a run-first offense (Fournette with his hamstring, Corey Grant out with a Lisfranc injury which is gutting, Yeldon playing when not 100%, so on so forth)
- apparently anyone off the street can play tight end? I dunno who we have on the roster any more, but at least two are on IR
- sharp defensive regression, which isn't helped by Calais Campbell playing when unfit and a spell where we had a rookie UDFA lining up for a load of the snaps in London against the Eagles
So we were very lucky to be healthy last year and we're now mega unlucky with injuries. The quick 180 has led to locker room disquiet (look at the London arrests, shitshow vs the Bills etc) and now it's just complete shit.
Don't get me wrong. Bortles is not the QB you want in this situation. He's not very good and his ceiling is pretty low, but we weren't wrong to pay him.
Now we're stuck in a situation where either we pay him $21m next year, or cut him and have $16.5m in dead cap. I'd rather have him as a backup for the $4.5m effective assuming we draft a QB (which we probably won't).
It's rubbish at the moment, but it definitely wasn't a mistake to pay Bortles the salary we gave him relative to other QBs not on their rookie deal. Hindsight is 20/20.
The biggest mistake jags made was letting Allen robinson leave. He was a true no.1 receiver and had good chemistry with bortles. Poor from the management of the jags.
Aaron Rodgers is 0-37 when trailing by more than one point in the fourth quarter to a team with a winning record.
1 - that record is mad. 2 - whoever researched such a random stat is mad.
I almost find that stat impossible. I would have guessed at least 50% win rate and would have gladly taken money on it of the other person guessed anything less than 33%. But.... zero!!??
Huge huge result for the Cowboys defence. A coming-of-age performance perhaps. Anyone who has been watching the games know the potential to shut down a team has been there all season. To do it to Drew Brees, Alvin Kamara et al... w-o-w!
To limit the Saints to only 10 points and grind out a win like that is special.
Fun fact: before tonight the Saints averaged 37.2 points per game.
How comes when you release a player his salary can still be dead cap space for the team that no longer has him ?
Because of the way NFL contracts work.
We have guaranteed Blake money through next year - i.e. he's gonna get paid $15m (or so, I think) in 2019 - and that therefore counts against the overall spending cap.
NFL contracts aren't guaranteed - I'm probably a bit off/basic in my explanation and I don't know how best to articulate. @NapaAddick is probably better placed to explain (I'd appreciate any explanation too!).
It was a mistake paying him at the time and a mistake to go into this year with him as starting QB. It's no secret I don't rate him at all but they may have wasted this Superbowl window. It's fine replacing him next year, but the Jags have still wasted money on him which means they can't build talent around any future QB.
Okay what's your definition of "paying"? Because at the time, he was a middling QB, and we accordingly paid him a middling starting QB's wage. The mistake was probably picking up his 5th-year option.
Yes, we put our eggs into the Bortles game manager basket, given the way we run our offense, and it's backfired horrendously. Here are a few problems that aren't Bortles:
- a shit receiving corps (injuries and just generally being shit given Marqise Lee was gonna be our WR1 ffs, tipped interceptions, dropped catches etc)
- no O-line (onto our 4th starting LT which is Ereck Flowers lol, our franchise left tackle in Cam Robinson tore his ACL, LG on IR, C on IR, right hand side has been a bit of a turnstile)
- barely any running backs which is bad for a run-first offense (Fournette with his hamstring, Corey Grant out with a Lisfranc injury which is gutting, Yeldon playing when not 100%, so on so forth)
- apparently anyone off the street can play tight end? I dunno who we have on the roster any more, but at least two are on IR
- sharp defensive regression, which isn't helped by Calais Campbell playing when unfit and a spell where we had a rookie UDFA lining up for a load of the snaps in London against the Eagles
So we were very lucky to be healthy last year and we're now mega unlucky with injuries. The quick 180 has led to locker room disquiet (look at the London arrests, shitshow vs the Bills etc) and now it's just complete shit.
Don't get me wrong. Bortles is not the QB you want in this situation. He's not very good and his ceiling is pretty low, but we weren't wrong to pay him.
Now we're stuck in a situation where either we pay him $21m next year, or cut him and have $16.5m in dead cap. I'd rather have him as a backup for the $4.5m effective assuming we draft a QB (which we probably won't).
It's rubbish at the moment, but it definitely wasn't a mistake to pay Bortles the salary we gave him relative to other QBs not on their rookie deal. Hindsight is 20/20.
He had a good run in the second of last year and ignored the previous 3-4 years evidence that he is not a starting level QB in the NFL. The reason he's surrounded by inadequate receivers etc is because you're tied down to paying him rather than having a QB on a rookie deal and putting better talent around him, see the Rams and Chiefs. It is a mistake, because now you're stuck with a huge cap hit when he's moved on this offseason and it damages your Supebowl window.
How comes when you release a player his salary can still be dead cap space for the team that no longer has him ?
Because of the way NFL contracts work.
We have guaranteed Blake money through next year - i.e. he's gonna get paid $15m (or so, I think) in 2019 - and that therefore counts against the overall spending cap.
NFL contracts aren't guaranteed - I'm probably a bit off/basic in my explanation and I don't know how best to articulate. @NapaAddick is probably better placed to explain (I'd appreciate any explanation too!).
It was a mistake paying him at the time and a mistake to go into this year with him as starting QB. It's no secret I don't rate him at all but they may have wasted this Superbowl window. It's fine replacing him next year, but the Jags have still wasted money on him which means they can't build talent around any future QB.
Okay what's your definition of "paying"? Because at the time, he was a middling QB, and we accordingly paid him a middling starting QB's wage. The mistake was probably picking up his 5th-year option.
Yes, we put our eggs into the Bortles game manager basket, given the way we run our offense, and it's backfired horrendously. Here are a few problems that aren't Bortles:
- a shit receiving corps (injuries and just generally being shit given Marqise Lee was gonna be our WR1 ffs, tipped interceptions, dropped catches etc)
- no O-line (onto our 4th starting LT which is Ereck Flowers lol, our franchise left tackle in Cam Robinson tore his ACL, LG on IR, C on IR, right hand side has been a bit of a turnstile)
- barely any running backs which is bad for a run-first offense (Fournette with his hamstring, Corey Grant out with a Lisfranc injury which is gutting, Yeldon playing when not 100%, so on so forth)
- apparently anyone off the street can play tight end? I dunno who we have on the roster any more, but at least two are on IR
- sharp defensive regression, which isn't helped by Calais Campbell playing when unfit and a spell where we had a rookie UDFA lining up for a load of the snaps in London against the Eagles
So we were very lucky to be healthy last year and we're now mega unlucky with injuries. The quick 180 has led to locker room disquiet (look at the London arrests, shitshow vs the Bills etc) and now it's just complete shit.
Don't get me wrong. Bortles is not the QB you want in this situation. He's not very good and his ceiling is pretty low, but we weren't wrong to pay him.
Now we're stuck in a situation where either we pay him $21m next year, or cut him and have $16.5m in dead cap. I'd rather have him as a backup for the $4.5m effective assuming we draft a QB (which we probably won't).
It's rubbish at the moment, but it definitely wasn't a mistake to pay Bortles the salary we gave him relative to other QBs not on their rookie deal. Hindsight is 20/20.
He had a good run in the second of last year and ignored the previous 3-4 years evidence that he is not a starting level QB in the NFL. The reason he's surrounded by inadequate receivers etc is because you're tied down to paying him rather than having a QB on a rookie deal and putting better talent around him, see the Rams and Chiefs. It is a mistake, because now you're stuck with a huge cap hit when he's moved on this offseason and it damages your Supebowl window.
I know Cowherd's a marmite pundit but he's bang on the money about overpaying QB's.
How comes when you release a player his salary can still be dead cap space for the team that no longer has him ?
Because of the way NFL contracts work.
We have guaranteed Blake money through next year - i.e. he's gonna get paid $15m (or so, I think) in 2019 - and that therefore counts against the overall spending cap.
NFL contracts aren't guaranteed - I'm probably a bit off/basic in my explanation and I don't know how best to articulate. @NapaAddick is probably better placed to explain (I'd appreciate any explanation too!).
It was a mistake paying him at the time and a mistake to go into this year with him as starting QB. It's no secret I don't rate him at all but they may have wasted this Superbowl window. It's fine replacing him next year, but the Jags have still wasted money on him which means they can't build talent around any future QB.
Okay what's your definition of "paying"? Because at the time, he was a middling QB, and we accordingly paid him a middling starting QB's wage. The mistake was probably picking up his 5th-year option.
Yes, we put our eggs into the Bortles game manager basket, given the way we run our offense, and it's backfired horrendously. Here are a few problems that aren't Bortles:
- a shit receiving corps (injuries and just generally being shit given Marqise Lee was gonna be our WR1 ffs, tipped interceptions, dropped catches etc)
- no O-line (onto our 4th starting LT which is Ereck Flowers lol, our franchise left tackle in Cam Robinson tore his ACL, LG on IR, C on IR, right hand side has been a bit of a turnstile)
- barely any running backs which is bad for a run-first offense (Fournette with his hamstring, Corey Grant out with a Lisfranc injury which is gutting, Yeldon playing when not 100%, so on so forth)
- apparently anyone off the street can play tight end? I dunno who we have on the roster any more, but at least two are on IR
- sharp defensive regression, which isn't helped by Calais Campbell playing when unfit and a spell where we had a rookie UDFA lining up for a load of the snaps in London against the Eagles
So we were very lucky to be healthy last year and we're now mega unlucky with injuries. The quick 180 has led to locker room disquiet (look at the London arrests, shitshow vs the Bills etc) and now it's just complete shit.
Don't get me wrong. Bortles is not the QB you want in this situation. He's not very good and his ceiling is pretty low, but we weren't wrong to pay him.
Now we're stuck in a situation where either we pay him $21m next year, or cut him and have $16.5m in dead cap. I'd rather have him as a backup for the $4.5m effective assuming we draft a QB (which we probably won't).
It's rubbish at the moment, but it definitely wasn't a mistake to pay Bortles the salary we gave him relative to other QBs not on their rookie deal. Hindsight is 20/20.
He had a good run in the second of last year and ignored the previous 3-4 years evidence that he is not a starting level QB in the NFL. The reason he's surrounded by inadequate receivers etc is because you're tied down to paying him rather than having a QB on a rookie deal and putting better talent around him, see the Rams and Chiefs. It is a mistake, because now you're stuck with a huge cap hit when he's moved on this offseason and it damages your Supebowl window.
That's the FO thinking he'd actually improved. Look at Alex Smith's stats for his first 3/4 years in the NFL and Blake's are comparable, if not slightly better, on most metrics.
He's surrounded by inadequate receivers not because we're paying him, but because of how stacked our defense (and in particular, D-line) is. Our defensive linemen take up nearly a third of our cap hit! And that's going to change next year of course with people like Malik Jackson and Marcell Dareus up for a chop, but even so.
Our Super Bowl window was reliant on this freakish defense, which is about to get dismantled, and that's it. Bortles was the right gamble at the time.
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Aaron Rodgers is 0-37 when trailing by more than one point in the fourth quarter to a team with a winning record.
1 - that record is mad.
2 - whoever researched such a random stat is mad.
Yes, we put our eggs into the Bortles game manager basket, given the way we run our offense, and it's backfired horrendously. Here are a few problems that aren't Bortles:
- a shit receiving corps (injuries and just generally being shit given Marqise Lee was gonna be our WR1 ffs, tipped interceptions, dropped catches etc)
- no O-line (onto our 4th starting LT which is Ereck Flowers lol, our franchise left tackle in Cam Robinson tore his ACL, LG on IR, C on IR, right hand side has been a bit of a turnstile)
- barely any running backs which is bad for a run-first offense (Fournette with his hamstring, Corey Grant out with a Lisfranc injury which is gutting, Yeldon playing when not 100%, so on so forth)
- apparently anyone off the street can play tight end? I dunno who we have on the roster any more, but at least two are on IR
- sharp defensive regression, which isn't helped by Calais Campbell playing when unfit and a spell where we had a rookie UDFA lining up for a load of the snaps in London against the Eagles
So we were very lucky to be healthy last year and we're now mega unlucky with injuries. The quick 180 has led to locker room disquiet (look at the London arrests, shitshow vs the Bills etc) and now it's just complete shit.
Don't get me wrong. Bortles is not the QB you want in this situation. He's not very good and his ceiling is pretty low, but we weren't wrong to pay him.
Now we're stuck in a situation where either we pay him $21m next year, or cut him and have $16.5m in dead cap. I'd rather have him as a backup for the $4.5m effective assuming we draft a QB (which we probably won't).
It's rubbish at the moment, but it definitely wasn't a mistake to pay Bortles the salary we gave him relative to other QBs not on their rookie deal. Hindsight is 20/20.
Life is good.
I always thought that 3rd and 4th seeds got home field advantage regardless of the team’s respective regular season records?
Back to 13-10 and the Cowboys haven't scored a point since half time. Still a quarter to play.
HUGE win.
To limit the Saints to only 10 points and grind out a win like that is special.
Fun fact: before tonight the Saints averaged 37.2 points per game.
He's surrounded by inadequate receivers not because we're paying him, but because of how stacked our defense (and in particular, D-line) is. Our defensive linemen take up nearly a third of our cap hit! And that's going to change next year of course with people like Malik Jackson and Marcell Dareus up for a chop, but even so.
Our Super Bowl window was reliant on this freakish defense, which is about to get dismantled, and that's it. Bortles was the right gamble at the time.
Oh well!