With the quality of those pictures I would be very surprised if those two are not picked up within 24 hours. When cctv surveillance results in getting violent individuals like these off our streets as fast as possible I find it difficult to argue against their presence.
I'd hope they'll be banged up and off the streets for a considerable period of time although we all know that's unlikely sadly.
I hope your friend's son can cope with the mental side @Algarveaddick . The physical wounds heal but you never stop being wary and anxious in similar circumstances after an experience of that nature.
With the quality of those pictures I would be very surprised if those two are not picked up within 24 hours. When cctv surveillance results in getting violent individuals like these off our streets as fast as possible I find it difficult to argue against their presence.
Agreed about CCTV, and these bastards are almost certainly 'known' to the police.
I used to live in Peckham years ago, my perception is that it is considerably safer now, but sadly there's a risk anywhere that you might meet some scumbags. I was last there about 4 weeks ago and it felt a lot less menacing than Bexleyheath. Hope your friend's son is better soon and that these lowlifes are caught.
You can get attacked anywhere late at night - sometimes it's down to being a bit streetwise to avoid stuff and sometimes you're just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I've lived all round SE London and can say it feels safer in a lot of areas than it used to. You seem to be most at risk between the ages of 16 and 25.
I'd hope they'll be banged up and off the streets for a considerable period of time although we all know that's unlikely sadly.
I hope your friend's son can cope with the mental side @Algarveaddick . The physical wounds heal but you never stop being wary and anxious in similar circumstances after an experience of that nature.
Thanks Len. Yes someone else said the same about the mental scars on facebook.
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
They’re not, they’re getting gentrified, Brixton especially. Peckham still has a bit of a weird divide, white yummy mummy types sitting in the cafes whilst Nigerian background working class people working in the market stalls etc and seem to exist independently from each other but in the same place. And hipsters as well.
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
They’re not, they’re getting gentrified, Brixton especially. Peckham still has a bit of a weird divide, white yummy mummy types sitting in the cafes whilst Nigerian background working class people working in the market stalls etc and seem to exist independently from each other but in the same place. And hipsters as well.
Loafers, no socks brigade no doubt. It’s been 30 years since I regularly drank in Peckham, and if the fecking hipsters are there it will be another 30 years (I wish).
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
They’re not, they’re getting gentrified, Brixton especially. Peckham still has a bit of a weird divide, white yummy mummy types sitting in the cafes whilst Nigerian background working class people working in the market stalls etc and seem to exist independently from each other but in the same place. And hipsters as well.
Loafers, no socks brigade no doubt. It’s been 30 years since I regularly drank in Peckham, and if the fecking hipsters are there it will be another 30 years (I wish).
It’s cos of the overground access to shoreditch Plus shoreditch now being an expensive shithole rather than just a shithole.
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
They’re not, they’re getting gentrified, Brixton especially. Peckham still has a bit of a weird divide, white yummy mummy types sitting in the cafes whilst Nigerian background working class people working in the market stalls etc and seem to exist independently from each other but in the same place. And hipsters as well.
Loafers, no socks brigade no doubt. It’s been 30 years since I regularly drank in Peckham, and if the fecking hipsters are there it will be another 30 years (I wish).
It’s cos of the overground access to shoreditch Plus shoreditch now being an expensive shithole rather than just a shithole.
Peckham is (usually) a decent night out these days. The only place in SE London I wouldn't go out drinking in is Catford Broadway, and even that is getting there now.
London is one big expensive shithole - welcome to the future.
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
They’re not, they’re getting gentrified, Brixton especially. Peckham still has a bit of a weird divide, white yummy mummy types sitting in the cafes whilst Nigerian background working class people working in the market stalls etc and seem to exist independently from each other but in the same place. And hipsters as well.
Loafers, no socks brigade no doubt. It’s been 30 years since I regularly drank in Peckham, and if the fecking hipsters are there it will be another 30 years (I wish).
It’s cos of the overground access to shoreditch Plus shoreditch now being an expensive shithole rather than just a shithole.
Peckham is (usually) a decent night out these days. The only place in SE London I wouldn't go out drinking in is Catford Broadway, and even that is getting there now.
London is one big expensive shithole - welcome to the future.
My mate said they overheard some one saying they had just bought a property “in catford village”.
I like gentrification to an extent (better night life etc) but you need to maintain affordable and council housing.
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
They’re not, they’re getting gentrified, Brixton especially. Peckham still has a bit of a weird divide, white yummy mummy types sitting in the cafes whilst Nigerian background working class people working in the market stalls etc and seem to exist independently from each other but in the same place. And hipsters as well.
Loafers, no socks brigade no doubt. It’s been 30 years since I regularly drank in Peckham, and if the fecking hipsters are there it will be another 30 years (I wish).
It’s cos of the overground access to shoreditch Plus shoreditch now being an expensive shithole rather than just a shithole.
Peckham is (usually) a decent night out these days. The only place in SE London I wouldn't go out drinking in is Catford Broadway, and even that is getting there now.
London is one big expensive shithole - welcome to the future.
My mate said they overheard some one saying they had just bought a property “in catford village”.
I like gentrification to an extent (better night life etc) but you need to maintain affordable and council housing.
Wow. It’s like when a few of us got a cab after a night out a few years ago, the cab driver called Deptford “west Greenwich”.
Deptford is worse, but fuck it. The way coppers are pulled off the street and seconded into taskforces and offices it's a wonder anyone from the 50 is visible post 10pm these days.
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
They’re not, they’re getting gentrified, Brixton especially. Peckham still has a bit of a weird divide, white yummy mummy types sitting in the cafes whilst Nigerian background working class people working in the market stalls etc and seem to exist independently from each other but in the same place. And hipsters as well.
Loafers, no socks brigade no doubt. It’s been 30 years since I regularly drank in Peckham, and if the fecking hipsters are there it will be another 30 years (I wish).
It’s cos of the overground access to shoreditch Plus shoreditch now being an expensive shithole rather than just a shithole.
Peckham is (usually) a decent night out these days. The only place in SE London I wouldn't go out drinking in is Catford Broadway, and even that is getting there now.
London is one big expensive shithole - welcome to the future.
My mate said they overheard some one saying they had just bought a property “in catford village”.
I like gentrification to an extent (better night life etc) but you need to maintain affordable and council housing.
Wow. It’s like when a few of us got a cab after a night out a few years ago, the cab driver called Deptford “west Greenwich”.
I think it’s laughable that you think you can’t go out past 11 but hey ho.
Hope the culprits get caught.
would you venture out in Peckham at midnight?, as that's where the crime took place - i personally wouldn't but that shouldn't be the case.
I cannot believe Peckham or Brixton are as bad as they were in the early 80s - back then I ran a group of betting shops in those areas and used to drink regularly in what were considered no-go areas. I never felt unsafe, but I did know a lot of locals so perhaps that helped.
They’re not, they’re getting gentrified, Brixton especially. Peckham still has a bit of a weird divide, white yummy mummy types sitting in the cafes whilst Nigerian background working class people working in the market stalls etc and seem to exist independently from each other but in the same place. And hipsters as well.
Loafers, no socks brigade no doubt. It’s been 30 years since I regularly drank in Peckham, and if the fecking hipsters are there it will be another 30 years (I wish).
I moved to Peckham in November. I’m right by the rye and rye lane. Not surprised to read of this and hope the lad is okay @Algarveaddick
I grew up down the road in Brockley and have known from an early age they’re are some proper c*** knockin about the area such as the two attackers
Growing up in and around the area doesn’t make what happened to the victim any less likely to happen to me, but you hopefully pick up to avoid conflict from an early age. Sounds like wrong place wrong time and unfortunately scum bags like this hunt in packs and given it might be in their neck of the woods they probably felt safe in numbers etc as they probably know a lot of people
In all my time living in this part of the world and that’s 36 years now, I’ve never felt unsafe. Hopefully will continue that way
Re: the mix of the area kentaddick has it right. Everywhere in London has become gentrified now because of the price of property. We haven’t quite got the loafers and no socks brigade, but we have got the top knots and mental alternative creative types of about 25 who probably grew up in the leafy parts of the U.K. and to me I do chuckle when I hear their accents in the pub
Yes unfortunately we have the yummy mummy brigade as well who in a million years won’t even fathom what it’s been like for some of the natives who have grown up in the rougher parts. Winds me up a tad to be fair. They wander round obliviously. My old landlords, the chap who worked for google and the woman was itv and have now moved from Brockley to the chilterns, actually called out a poncy Japanese restaurant on lordship Lane as being too gentrified and attracting yummy mummies etc. I couldn’t believe it. Pot kettle and all that
They talked to me about the wickham arms round the back of Brockley and said ‘oh what a traditional pub’
I thought, there’s no way you would’ve been seen dead in here 20 years back
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I hope your friend's son can cope with the mental side @Algarveaddick . The physical wounds heal but you never stop being wary and anxious in similar circumstances after an experience of that nature.
Speedy recovery to your friend's son.
Hope the culprits get caught.
I've lived all round SE London and can say it feels safer in a lot of areas than it used to. You seem to be most at risk between the ages of 16 and 25.
Hope he recovers quickly and those bastards are caught and heavily punished.
London is one big expensive shithole - welcome to the future.
I like gentrification to an extent (better night life etc) but you need to maintain affordable and council housing.
Just wondered if this could possibly be a racially motivated attack?
I grew up down the road in Brockley and have known from an early age they’re are some proper c*** knockin about the area such as the two attackers
Growing up in and around the area doesn’t make what happened to the victim any less likely to happen to me, but you hopefully pick up to avoid conflict from an early age. Sounds like wrong place wrong time and unfortunately scum bags like this hunt in packs and given it might be in their neck of the woods they probably felt safe in numbers etc as they probably know a lot of people
In all my time living in this part of the world and that’s 36 years now, I’ve never felt unsafe. Hopefully will continue that way
Re: the mix of the area kentaddick has it right. Everywhere in London has become gentrified now because of the price of property. We haven’t quite got the loafers and no socks brigade, but we have got the top knots and mental alternative creative types of about 25 who probably grew up in the leafy parts of the U.K. and to me I do chuckle when I hear their accents in the pub
Yes unfortunately we have the yummy mummy brigade as well who in a million years won’t even fathom what it’s been like for some of the natives who have grown up in the rougher parts. Winds me up a tad to be fair. They wander round obliviously. My old landlords, the chap who worked for google and the woman was itv and have now moved from Brockley to the chilterns, actually called out a poncy Japanese restaurant on lordship Lane as being too gentrified and attracting yummy mummies etc. I couldn’t believe it. Pot kettle and all that
They talked to me about the wickham arms round the back of Brockley and said ‘oh what a traditional pub’
I thought, there’s no way you would’ve been seen dead in here 20 years back