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England Cricket - Summer of 2018

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Bess looked good, but like people are saying, it's his bowling that needs to impress. If we wanted a spinner who could bat then there was no point in dropping Moeen
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,640

    Bess looked good, but like people are saying, it's his bowling that needs to impress. If we wanted a spinner who could bat then there was no point in dropping Moeen

    tbf Moeen looked like he could do neither last winter.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167

    Riviera said:

    Could Hales and Morgan be any worse than Jennings and Malan?

    Morgan doesn't play red ball cricket, thankfully.
    Neither does Hales!
    Yes but that is his choice.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    Good to be playing Ireland, though making it a 4 day Test does sound a bit patronising - you're not good enough to last 5 days
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,640

    Good to be playing Ireland, though making it a 4 day Test does sound a bit patronising - you're not good enough to last 5 days
    I think its more likely that the Irish don't want it a 5 day match as they don't want to be buggering around trying to change flights/ferries when they beat us inside 4 days...
  • BR3red
    BR3red Posts: 1,715
    Jos Butler on fire
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013

    Bess looked good, but like people are saying, it's his bowling that needs to impress. If we wanted a spinner who could bat then there was no point in dropping Moeen

    What I was thinking.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    England 363 All Out

    Lead by 189 runs.

    Buttler 80 no.

    Broad is a batting fool. He should have tried to stick around whilst Buttler was batting, but I expected him to give his wicket away.
  • I reckon it'll be all over today
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  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051

    England 363 All Out

    Lead by 189 runs.

    Buttler 80 no.

    Broad is a batting fool. He should have tried to stick around whilst Buttler was batting, but I expected him to give his wicket away.

    Did he waste a review while he was doing it?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited June 2018
    20-1

    Azhar Ali b Anderson 11

    Middle stump sent flying.
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    30-2

    Sohail c Bess b Anderson 8

    A great diving one handed catch.
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    42-3

    Shafiq c Bairstow b Broad 5
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    84-4

    Imam-ul-Haq lbw Bess 34
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    97-5

    Sarfraz lbw Woakes 8
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    The roses 50 over match on Tuesday won't have competition from the Headingley Test!
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    102-6

    Shadab Khan c Cook b Curran 4
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    111-7

    Ashraf c Malan b Bess 3
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    115-8

    Salahuddin c Root b Bess 33
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    124-9

    Hasan Ali c Cook b Broad 9
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    134 All Out

    England win by an innings and 55 runs
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,640
    All over in about 2.5 days. lost a whole session due to rain & still finished before 4.30pm on the 3rd day
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    All over in about 2.5 days. lost a whole session due to rain & still finished before 4.30pm on the 3rd day

    And they moan the Ireland test is only booked for 4 days.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    I wonder how many wickets were caught behind the wicket in this test.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    What did Bess bowl like?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited June 2018
    McBobbin said:

    What did Bess bowl like?

    He bowled well, certainly well enough to keep his place in the team.
    Plus he second top scored and also took a stupendous, diving, one handed catch with his left hand.
  • Despise 2 test series.

    Perfectly poised for a decider now.

    It was the same against New Zealand in 2015, one of my favourite series in recent times.

    Fair play to Pakistan - they came over and played hard but in a good spirit. Some useful young players, too - good luck to them.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    Test cricket is in trouble if it can't deliver more close contests

    We have the issue of teams struggling away from home, but now we also have teams showing massive peaks and troughs in form during a series! A 1-1 result suggests a close series, but in reality we had 2 matches where one team was miles better than the other, neither being very satisfactory matches to watch as a result.

    Last summer against South Africa and the Windies also showed this pattern, with England winning and losing by massive margins in the same series.

  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810

    Test cricket is in trouble if it can't deliver more close contests

    We have the issue of teams struggling away from home, but now we also have teams showing massive peaks and troughs in form during a series! A 1-1 result suggests a close series, but in reality we had 2 matches where one team was miles better than the other, neither being very satisfactory matches to watch as a result.

    Last summer against South Africa and the Windies also showed this pattern, with England winning and losing by massive margins in the same series.

    Agree completely, this is basically down to teams trying to hit their way out of trouble rather than bat all day for 180-2 and grind their way back into a game,

    England are as guilty of this as anyone else.

    The bottom line is that on sporting decks where 275-300 is about par then England can beat anyone, our batters specialise in getting quick 60-70s and we bat deep as well whilst our bowlers can knock over anyone when the ball is moving.

    As we saw in Oz and before that in India our issue is on flat decks where you need to score 500+ just to stay in the game, we don't have the batsmen to score the big hundreds apart from Cook and he is obviously not the player he was anyway and our we don't have the high pace or quality spin to take wickets on flat decks.

    Hopefully we will see some closer contests ahead in the India series because very few things beat the drama of a close Test match.