Jay Dasilva

addick05

Just read in the Mirror that Frank Lampard is interested in signing Dasilva for Derby. Could be a good move for the boy, don't think he was ever going to break into Chelskis first team.

Vincenzo

Why on earth would he go to Derby when he can take his pick of any position he likes at Charlton. Left Back, Finance Officer, CEO. Whatever you fancy Jay.

addick05

Vincenzo said:

Why on earth would he go to Derby when he can take his pick of any position he likes at Charlton. Left Back, Finance Officer, CEO. Whatever you fancy Jay.

Hadn't thought of that! Mind you, in 11 or so months he could be playing Premiership football...maybe that's why?

ForeverAddickted

Wonder what his hopes for the new season are... Not sure if he's gone out to Australia with the Chelsea team (despite Kasey Palmer and Hudson-Odoi going) as isnt in the team to face Perth Glory today

killerandflash

I'm amazed Michael Hector is still there. It was a bizarre signing 3 years ago, he was hardly a sought after youngster when they bought him

Covered_End_Lad

killerandflash said:

I'm amazed Michael Hector is still there. It was a bizarre signing 3 years ago, he was hardly a sought after youngster then they bought him

26 years old, has been on loan at 14 clubs. Jesus.

Johnnysummers5

ForeverAddickted said:

Wonder what his hopes for the new season are... Not sure if he's gone out to Australia with the Chelsea team (despite Kasey Palmer and Hudson-Odoi going) as isnt in the team to face Perth Glory today

I think they are looking for a player named Lake, then they will have Emerson, Lake and Palmer

golfaddick

Da Silva will never play for Chelsea. Fact.

Vincenzo

golfaddick said:

Da Silva will never play for Chelsea. Fact.

I wonder if Kasey Palmer ever will.

Pretty unhealthy for the game the way Chelsea hoover up talent that are never going to play for them. I'm sure part of it is to keep them out of the hands of rivals.

paulie8290

Johnnysummers5 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Wonder what his hopes for the new season are... Not sure if he's gone out to Australia with the Chelsea team (despite Kasey Palmer and Hudson-Odoi going) as isnt in the team to face Perth Glory today

I think they are looking for a player named Lake, then they will have Emerson, Lake and Palmer

Toshio Lake is a 17 year old Dutch striker who currently plays for Feyenoord

ForeverAddickted

Vincenzo said:

golfaddick said:

Da Silva will never play for Chelsea. Fact.

I wonder if Kasey Palmer ever will.

Pretty unhealthy for the game the way Chelsea hoover up talent that are never going to play for them. I'm sure part of it is to keep them out of the hands of rivals.

Thought Kasey Palmer was joining Derby this summer, wasnt clear when I read though if it was only a loan deal or not

cafcfan1990

ForeverAddickted said:

Vincenzo said:

golfaddick said:

Da Silva will never play for Chelsea. Fact.

I wonder if Kasey Palmer ever will.

Pretty unhealthy for the game the way Chelsea hoover up talent that are never going to play for them. I'm sure part of it is to keep them out of the hands of rivals.

Thought Kasey Palmer was joining Derby this summer, wasnt clear when I read though if it was only a loan deal or not

Yeah I think I read he was going permanently but doesn't seem to have happened (yet).

ForeverAddickted

cafcfan1990 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Vincenzo said:

golfaddick said:

Da Silva will never play for Chelsea. Fact.

I wonder if Kasey Palmer ever will.

Pretty unhealthy for the game the way Chelsea hoover up talent that are never going to play for them. I'm sure part of it is to keep them out of the hands of rivals.

Thought Kasey Palmer was joining Derby this summer, wasnt clear when I read though if it was only a loan deal or not

Yeah I think I read he was going permanently but doesn't seem to have happened (yet).

Conte being replaced by Serri has probably put a slim spanner in the works there

Oggy Red

Covered_End_Lad said:

killerandflash said:

I'm amazed Michael Hector is still there. It was a bizarre signing 3 years ago, he was hardly a sought after youngster then they bought him

26 years old, has been on loan at 14 clubs. Jesus.

Lease lend player.

Saw this advert in "Football Manager Monthly":

"If you need to borrow a player, choose Chelsea!"

"Cheap player leasing. Choose from every position. New Summer catalogue. Available now!"
https://www.chelseafc.com/megastore

Cafc43v3r

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

killerandflash

That Chelsea team is full of big name players, who all missed out on the World Cup! A reflection on how well they played last season...

LenGlover

ForeverAddickted said:

cafcfan1990 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Vincenzo said:

golfaddick said:

Da Silva will never play for Chelsea. Fact.

I wonder if Kasey Palmer ever will.

Pretty unhealthy for the game the way Chelsea hoover up talent that are never going to play for them. I'm sure part of it is to keep them out of the hands of rivals.

Thought Kasey Palmer was joining Derby this summer, wasnt clear when I read though if it was only a loan deal or not

Yeah I think I read he was going permanently but doesn't seem to have happened (yet).

Conte being replaced by Serri has probably put a slim spanner in the works there

Is Serri an anorexic former Millwall player?

The Red Robin

There should be rules in place to prevent stockpiling of players. i.e. if a player between the ages of 16-21 hasn't played 20 (as an example) league games for you in a certain period of time then you have to release / sell them.

Chris_from_Sidcup

Cafc43v3r said:

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

Sold over 500m worth of players since Jan 2014.

cafcfan1990

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Cafc43v3r said:

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

Sold over 500m worth of players since Jan 2014.

They also sold Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah for a fraction of what they are now worth.

Chris_from_Sidcup

cafcfan1990 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Cafc43v3r said:

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

Sold over 500m worth of players since Jan 2014.

They also sold Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah for a fraction of what they are now worth.

True but i guess it's natural the way they do things that there will be some young players who don't get a chance there but then go on to do very well elsewhere. But overall i don't think they'll be too unhappy with shifting 500m of players in 4 years.

And it's not as if they haven't been winning trophies since those 3 left.

Cafc43v3r

cafcfan1990 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Cafc43v3r said:

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

Sold over 500m worth of players since Jan 2014.

They also sold Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah for a fraction of what they are now worth.

And Matic, had to buy him back at a big loss, generally works well.

paulie8290

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Cafc43v3r said:

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

Sold over 500m worth of players since Jan 2014.

They also sold Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah for a fraction of what they are now worth.

True but i guess it's natural the way they do things that there will be some young players who don't get a chance there but then go on to do very well elsewhere. But overall i don't think they'll be too unhappy with shifting 500m of players in 4 years.

And it's not as if they haven't been winning trophies since those 3 left.

How much have they spent in that time tho.

This year
52m on Jorginho

last year they spent
30M on Rudiger
40M on Bakayoko
58M on Morata(who they wouldnt have needed had that not sold Lukaku
23M on Zappacosta
35M on Drinkwater
18M on Giroud
17M on Emmerson
15M on Barkley

Then the year before
35M on Batshuayi
32M on Kante
23M on Alonso
30M on Luiz

The year before
14M on Rahman
22M on Pedro

Garrymanilow

paulie8290 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Cafc43v3r said:

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

Sold over 500m worth of players since Jan 2014.

They also sold Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah for a fraction of what they are now worth.

True but i guess it's natural the way they do things that there will be some young players who don't get a chance there but then go on to do very well elsewhere. But overall i don't think they'll be too unhappy with shifting 500m of players in 4 years.

And it's not as if they haven't been winning trophies since those 3 left.

How much have they spent in that time tho.

This year
52m on Jorginho

last year they spent
30M on Rudiger
40M on Bakayoko
58M on Morata(who they wouldnt have needed had that not sold Lukaku
23M on Zappacosta
35M on Drinkwater
18M on Giroud
17M on Emmerson
15M on Barkley

Then the year before
35M on Batshuayi
32M on Kante
23M on Alonso
30M on Luiz

The year before
14M on Rahman
22M on Pedro

But that's the whole point isn't it. Their hoovering up and selling on of young talent allows them to invest heavily in their first team squad without just relying on Abramovich's pocket

paulie8290

Garrymanilow said:

paulie8290 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Cafc43v3r said:

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

Sold over 500m worth of players since Jan 2014.

They also sold Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah for a fraction of what they are now worth.

True but i guess it's natural the way they do things that there will be some young players who don't get a chance there but then go on to do very well elsewhere. But overall i don't think they'll be too unhappy with shifting 500m of players in 4 years.

And it's not as if they haven't been winning trophies since those 3 left.

How much have they spent in that time tho.

This year
52m on Jorginho

last year they spent
30M on Rudiger
40M on Bakayoko
58M on Morata(who they wouldnt have needed had that not sold Lukaku
23M on Zappacosta
35M on Drinkwater
18M on Giroud
17M on Emmerson
15M on Barkley

Then the year before
35M on Batshuayi
32M on Kante
23M on Alonso
30M on Luiz

The year before
14M on Rahman
22M on Pedro

But that's the whole point isn't it. Their hoovering up and selling on of young talent allows them to invest heavily in their first team squad without just relying on Abramovich's pocket

Selling of young talent isnt what they are doing.

Most of that 500M had comr from selling Ramires, Costa and Matic

IT_Andy

heard on the radio that Chelsea now only spend money from income. This has happened the last couple of years.

paulie8290

IT_Andy said:

heard on the radio that Chelsea now only spend money from income. This has happened the last couple of years.

Yeah income from Roman Abramovich lol.

Cant be player sales.

Last season they earnt around 160M from player sales 50M of that came in January from Costa

They spent around £240.

I know there is sponsorship and everything but with wages and agents fees I doubt the finished ahead

SouthWest_Addicks

Read somewhere that Chelsea’s Academy is judged on profit and loss instead of getting players to make the first team.

Obviously, no team wants to loose millions of pounds but if your academy is producing; Harry Kane, Rashford etc then you would have to deem that as a success.

Chris_from_Sidcup

paulie8290 said:

IT_Andy said:

heard on the radio that Chelsea now only spend money from income. This has happened the last couple of years.

Yeah income from Roman Abramovich lol.

Cant be player sales.

Last season they earnt around 160M from player sales 50M of that came in January from Costa

They spent around £240.

I know there is sponsorship and everything but with wages and agents fees I doubt the finished ahead

Abramovich doesn't subsidise them now, they're self sufficient and made a profit last year.

They got over 140m from Sky plus whatever they made in the champions league. Add that to their player sales and it's well over 300m even before ticket sales, merchandise and sponsorship.

ShootersHillGuru

Football is sick.

I’m slowly getting sick of football.

Garrymanilow

paulie8290 said:

Garrymanilow said:

paulie8290 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

Cafc43v3r said:

That actually is there policy. It makes them massive profits as well. They royally ballsed up 4 very high profile ones, generally it works for them.

Sold over 500m worth of players since Jan 2014.

They also sold Lukaku, De Bruyne and Salah for a fraction of what they are now worth.

True but i guess it's natural the way they do things that there will be some young players who don't get a chance there but then go on to do very well elsewhere. But overall i don't think they'll be too unhappy with shifting 500m of players in 4 years.

And it's not as if they haven't been winning trophies since those 3 left.

How much have they spent in that time tho.

This year
52m on Jorginho

last year they spent
30M on Rudiger
40M on Bakayoko
58M on Morata(who they wouldnt have needed had that not sold Lukaku
23M on Zappacosta
35M on Drinkwater
18M on Giroud
17M on Emmerson
15M on Barkley

Then the year before
35M on Batshuayi
32M on Kante
23M on Alonso
30M on Luiz

The year before
14M on Rahman
22M on Pedro

But that's the whole point isn't it. Their hoovering up and selling on of young talent allows them to invest heavily in their first team squad without just relying on Abramovich's pocket

Selling of young talent isnt what they are doing.

Most of that 500M had comr from selling Ramires, Costa and Matic

124m is not most of 500m.

But again, you're missing the point. The point is that they're buying and selling first team players, and supplementing their income by dealing in young players who will never make the first team but go for a profit, meaning that they can invest more on bringing players in and still be in the black. Matic was a good example initially. They signed him for £1.58m and when he wasn't developing enough for them sold him for £4.5m. Easy profit, no risk. The fact he developed and then they brought him back (and then sold him for yet another profit) doesn't even figure into it, because as far as they're concerned they sold an asset that wasn't affecting the first team and then bought an asset later to go into the team. Thorgan Hazard was signed for £450,000 and sold for £7.2m, with the option to buy him back for cheap if they fancy it. That's an extra nearly £7m in the bank to throw at first team signings and as far as they're concerned they've lost nothing. It's not great for football but it's a good plan given that Roman doesn't want to keep dipping into his pocket every time they drop out of the top 2