The only positive I can think of at this point is no games have been played yet. Lyle could still change his mind if he has enough worthwhile conversations with Bowyer and other players about it. He will possibly be made aware that us failing to stay up might scupper our chances of a takeover and he could be made to see that there's bigger things at stake than him worrying about an injury that may never come. What's more likely to happen though is that he'll get a load of abuse on social media and that will help him decide that he's making the right choice. Or maybe he'll start a revolution at other clubs and Hull will only be able to put out a youth team against us. We can dream.
I stated earlier that I thought Lyle was not honourable but in retrospect he is as he is openly saying that he can't give 100% and that is honest. I still think he is wrong and as he is under contract, which he freely signed, he should honour that contract with 100% effort.
Not going to over the top but very disappointing. He should at least play to the end of his contract ie the games up to and including the 30th of June. In any profession you give your best to the end no matter what the next job and how attractive it is. You can get injured at anytime could have happened in April or March. Respect the contract.
Respect is a two way street.
Taylor could have said that he had a back injury but didn't. Given the amount of abuse as a result of the Club suggesting that he had refused to sign an improved contract I'm not all together surprised by his stance.
Southall turned fans against him and Bowyer (who let us not forget happily signed a new contract) did not tell us the actual situation either with regards to Taylor or the embargo.
Don't pay him from the time he stops playing for us. They might well be only one or two games.
When did fans turn against Lyle? A very small number of users on twitter maybe mouthed off but dont think that can be considered a true reflection of Charlton fans feelings towards Lyle.
Think the club is missing a trick. He should be called in but but allowed to train get him to do other jobs round the club. As at least that would disrupt his train routine. I do complety get his stance though as we all would do it. Also I would publicly mention the club if they are in the same division as us as surely that's a breach of fair competition
This. If it wasn't for Covid-19 I'd be getting him to clean the boots, washing the kit & doing menial tasks around the club. Certainly wouldn't have him in training.
You could see this coming a mile off, so I don't know why anyone is particularly surprised because I'm certainly not. You only have to listen to him being interviewed to know that this is just a career for him and he wants to make the best decision for himself, regardless of what others may think.
That's his right, of course, as is it the right of others to agree or disagree with his decisions.
But he's not a "club legend", far from it, but equally he's not a "sewer rat". He's just another player and one that is on his way out the door.
One thing is certain though. We are a weaker team without a fit and hungry Lyle Taylor. Even Lyle Taylor at 80% probably adds to the team. But a disinterested Lyle Taylor at 50-70% is probably just not worth having.
Not going to over the top but very disappointing. He should at least play to the end of his contract ie the games up to and including the 30th of June. In any profession you give your best to the end no matter what the next job and how attractive it is. You can get injured at anytime could have happened in April or March. Respect the contract.
Respect is a two way street.
Taylor could have said that he had a back injury but didn't. Given the amount of abuse as a result of the Club suggesting that he had refused to sign an improved contract I'm not all together surprised by his stance.
Southall turned fans against him and Bowyer (who let us not forget happily signed a new contract) did not tell us the actual situation either with regards to Taylor or the embargo.
Don't pay him from the time he stops playing for us. They might well be only one or two games.
When did fans turn against Lyle? A very small number of users on twitter maybe mouthed off but dont think that can be considered a true reflection of Charlton fans feelings towards Lyle.
Exactly. He’s walked off games like a broken man cos he’s put it such a shift and 99.9% of fans have noticed and applauded. But this is a total piss take. Even if he plays up until 30th June I could understand but I can’t handle him jackin it in before that. He could of been the difference against Hull and decided our short term future.
Players play for their clubs knowing that their contracts are about to expire, that happens all the time
Yes he was younger, but Patrick Bauer for example scored the winning goal at Wembley (and still celebrates the moment) knowing that he was likely to leave. Ditto Aribo
Imagine if either of them had downed tools in April...
You could see this coming a mile off, so I don't know why anyone is particularly surprised because I'm certainly not. You only have to listen to him being interviewed to know that this is just a career for him and he wants to make the best decision for himself, regardless of what others may think.
That's his right, of course, as is it the right of others to agree or disagree with his decisions.
But he's not a "club legend", far from it, but equally he's not a "sewer rat". He's just another player and one that is on his way out the door.
One thing is certain though. We are a weaker team without a fit and hungry Lyle Taylor. Even Lyle Taylor at 80% probably adds to the team. But a disinterested Lyle Taylor at 50-70% is probably just not worth having.
See ya.
Agree he is not a club legend and certainly now not a "professional" in my mind.
Lyle Taylor isn't getting a big money move because of Charlton, he's getting a move because Lyle Taylor has performed consistently well over the past few seasons in every league he's played in from league 2 upwards.
The irony of course is that Natalie Sawyer is a Brentford fan so may well be cheering him on in a few months.
Not hugely surprised by this given Taylor's approach to contracts in the past and his preference for going free agent. All the same, it's extremely disappointing that when the chips are down and Charlton are in the relegation places, he just thinks about himself and the team can go hang. I wouldn't want to sit next to someone like that in a changing room and I wouldn't have his back out on the pitch either.
He's off, we have had this happen many times before to us, as have most football fans so it doesnt surprise me.
It always gave me hope seeing Lyle in the team, he was a good player for us and scored a number of memorable goals, Forest away being the most recent that springs to mind.
Loved the way he wound up the opposition but his strops and dramatics for the last year or so made it quite clear that he would not be staying long.
He will make the step up, he may well score for his new side just as he did for us, he may well end up playing regularly as a second striker to a youngster or he may end up as a sub/squad player and no longer the star. Whatever the outcome he will be financially secure.
Legend however is a big word and not to be banded about lightly, Lyle, for me, is a long way from being an Addicks legend, just as I wouldnt really have let Nicky Bailey shag my wife, Lyle is an extremely popular, talented player in the current team.
If we still sing his name in a decade he will be a legend, if he is able to walk back onto the Valley turf to a standing ovation when he returns with someone else he will be a legend.
I may be wrong but I can't see either of those happening at the moment.
Disappointed yes, very, but certainly not surprised. He’s being pragmatic and looking to protect his future livelihood. If we weren’t run by a bunch of conmen and chancers we maybe could have signed him to a new contract, rather than pissing the money away on Range Rovers, Flats and consultancy fees. Plus if you were in Lyles shoes wouldn’t you be pleased to get out of this train wreck of a club. I have never been so disillusioned with my lot as a Charlton fan.
After the way he was treated by RD and mouthfall over his contract, do you honestly blame him? We were all aware that he would be off at the end of the season anyway and not get a decent contract at this club and this would probably his last chance to get a decent contract before he retires. I am sorry to see him go and thought the world of him, but be realistic, would you stay, if you were a footballer at Charlton at the moment?
Yes it’s happened lots of times before and will happen innumerable times in the future but it still hurts us fans. I always say it every time it happens but if they want out then good luck and close the door on the way out. You won’t be that missed.
Anyway, this is a big blow, after spending the last few weeks basically telling all and sundry that Southall is unethical it kind of feels like Taylor has lost his high horse here.
Must be pretty terrible for squad morale too, our best player has given up on us.
After the way he was treated by RD and mouthfall over his contract, do you honestly blame him? We were all aware that he would be off at the end of the season anyway and not get a decent contract at this club and this would probably his last chance to get a decent contract before he retires. I am sorry to see him go and thought the world of him, but be realistic, would you stay, if you were a footballer at Charlton at the moment?
I do not blame him for wanting to leave at the end of his contract - a contract that I believe has his signature at the bottom! If he was prepared to sign that contract two years ago (I'm not aware a gun was held to his head), he should be prepared to honour that contract.
Not going to over the top but very disappointing. He should at least play to the end of his contract ie the games up to and including the 30th of June. In any profession you give your best to the end no matter what the next job and how attractive it is. You can get injured at anytime could have happened in April or March. Respect the contract.
Respect is a two way street.
Taylor could have said that he had a back injury but didn't. Given the amount of abuse as a result of the Club suggesting that he had refused to sign an improved contract I'm not all together surprised by his stance.
Southall turned fans against him and Bowyer (who let us not forget happily signed a new contract) did not tell us the actual situation either with regards to Taylor or the embargo.
Don't pay him from the time he stops playing for us. They might well be only one or two games.
But the definition of professionalism is to do the job even when it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. I don’t need him to paint a rose tinted spectacles view of the club or us as supporters. (though personally I think it helps). I just need him to give his best to the very end. Then il wish him all the very very best.
After the way he was treated by RD and mouthfall over his contract, do you honestly blame him? We were all aware that he would be off at the end of the season anyway and not get a decent contract at this club and this would probably his last chance to get a decent contract before he retires. I am sorry to see him go and thought the world of him, but be realistic, would you stay, if you were a footballer at Charlton at the moment?
This is exactly how I feel about it. I'm disappointed he won't play but I understand it and if I was in his shoes I'd probably do the same.
I retire from the fire brigade in just over 2 years time, i think the last month of my 30 year contract i'm going to tell the brigade i'm not going to go to any more fires as i dont want to get burnt, i wonder what they'll say 🤔😏
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Natalie Sawyer got it spot on here!
Why the fuck do we bother.
You could see this coming a mile off, so I don't know why anyone is particularly surprised because I'm certainly not. You only have to listen to him being interviewed to know that this is just a career for him and he wants to make the best decision for himself, regardless of what others may think.
That's his right, of course, as is it the right of others to agree or disagree with his decisions.
But he's not a "club legend", far from it, but equally he's not a "sewer rat". He's just another player and one that is on his way out the door.
One thing is certain though. We are a weaker team without a fit and hungry Lyle Taylor. Even Lyle Taylor at 80% probably adds to the team. But a disinterested Lyle Taylor at 50-70% is probably just not worth having.
See ya.
Yes he was younger, but Patrick Bauer for example scored the winning goal at Wembley (and still celebrates the moment) knowing that he was likely to leave. Ditto Aribo
Imagine if either of them had downed tools in April...
Lyle Taylor isn't getting a big money move because of Charlton, he's getting a move because Lyle Taylor has performed consistently well over the past few seasons in every league he's played in from league 2 upwards.
The irony of course is that Natalie Sawyer is a Brentford fan so may well be cheering him on in a few months.
It always gave me hope seeing Lyle in the team, he was a good player for us and scored a number of memorable goals, Forest away being the most recent that springs to mind.
Loved the way he wound up the opposition but his strops and dramatics for the last year or so made it quite clear that he would not be staying long.
He will make the step up, he may well score for his new side just as he did for us, he may well end up playing regularly as a second striker to a youngster or he may end up as a sub/squad player and no longer the star. Whatever the outcome he will be financially secure.
Legend however is a big word and not to be banded about lightly, Lyle, for me, is a long way from being an Addicks legend, just as I wouldnt really have let Nicky Bailey shag my wife, Lyle is an extremely popular, talented player in the current team.
If we still sing his name in a decade he will be a legend, if he is able to walk back onto the Valley turf to a standing ovation when he returns with someone else he will be a legend.
I may be wrong but I can't see either of those happening at the moment.
I do not blame him for wanting to leave at the end of his contract - a contract that I believe has his signature at the bottom! If he was prepared to sign that contract two years ago (I'm not aware a gun was held to his head), he should be prepared to honour that contract.