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Tour de France (2023 from p54)

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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    I quite fancy Alaphilipe as an outsider.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,000
    Addickted said:
    I quite fancy Alaphilipe as an outsider.
    He’s my favourite French rider, very exciting. Podium is feasible. 
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,283
    I was thinking about Martin but he always seems to have a crash in him somewhere along the route! 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,000
    Bournemouth Addick said:
    I was thinking about Martin but he always seems to have a crash in him somewhere along the route! 
    Likely to be top 10, but not convinced about podium - great rider to watch though. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    stonemuse said:

    @ForeverAddickted
    Alex Dowsett? 

    Dan Martin - born in Birmingham :smiley:
    Didnt notice him in the squads

    Should never forget Dan Martin though!!
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,283
    stonemuse said:
    Bournemouth Addick said:
    I was thinking about Martin but he always seems to have a crash in him somewhere along the route! 
    Likely to be top 10, but not convinced about podium - great rider to watch though. 
    Agreed, for someone like me that knows bugger all really about cycling but just enjoys it as a spectator, he is massively entertaining. There's always something going on around him it seems, either a huge crash or him putting in a superhuman effort to win a stage. And he generally comes across as a nice guy too.

    Would love to see him win it tbh.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,023
    ForeverAddickted said:
    2019 Riders have been announced; From Great Britain we've got:

    Geraint Thomas | Adam Yates | Simon Yates | Mark Cavendish | Luke Rowe

    I know we've got Froome missing but seems even less British riders involved this year compared to recent outings

    Certainly curious to see what Cav's role will be seeing that there is no Renshaw to lead him out, really want him to get just one more stage!!
    It seems a little over the top, but perhaps it will encourage more attacking riding.  People are going to have to go on breakaways 'cos the peleton is going to be massive.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Stig said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    2019 Riders have been announced; From Great Britain we've got:

    Geraint Thomas | Adam Yates | Simon Yates | Mark Cavendish | Luke Rowe

    I know we've got Froome missing but seems even less British riders involved this year compared to recent outings

    Certainly curious to see what Cav's role will be seeing that there is no Renshaw to lead him out, really want him to get just one more stage!!
    It seems a little over the top, but perhaps it will encourage more attacking riding.  People are going to have to go on breakaways 'cos the peleton is going to be massive.
    And the beauty is there can be 2000 French riders and they still wont win their own race ;)
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Can't see Alanphillipe top 10.  Jakob Fuglsang has more of a chance for podium.  But either of them after an immense classic season, will find it really hard to keep up with the lead groups in the third week.  Fugalsang is a GC rider, but I'd still expect him to fade a little in the third week.  It'll be interesting to see how Enric Mas goes at Quick Step.  Can't remember much of him in the Vuelta last year but he's Quick Step's GC guy.

    The only classics guy who could do it in the future is Matt van der Poel.  But will he give up cyclecross to target a Grand Tour?
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,575
    “Quick Steps GC guy” is an excellent example of an oxymoron. 
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  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    Alaphilippe has precisely zero chance of winning the tour, or getting anywhere near the podium for that matter. Points jersey, on the other hand, is a possibility - if Sagan has an off year and Matthews fails to fire.

    FWIW, my money would be on Bernal. He looks like he's got no weaknesses at all - and while his TTing isn't as good as the prototype modern tour contender (froome, Thomas, Dumoulin etc), his climbing is better - and this is a Savage tour, with even less TT miles than the last couple 
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    edited June 2019
    SomervilleAddick said:
    “Quick Steps GC guy” is an excellent example of an oxymoron. 
      Was 2nd at the Vuelta last year, with their next rider finishing something like 80th!  Can't see him finishing 2nd but if he sticks in the mountains he'll not stay at Quick Step long.

      Adam Yates has a real chance for podium, if Mitchelton have got their support right.
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    As usual , highlights on ITV4 ( freeview 24 ) at 7.00pm , with Ned Boulting , David Millar and Gary Imlach. Normally have live coverage too during the afternoon. Can't wait, love the Tour , nothing quite like it .
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    Ineos still with a strong team as ever , even without Froome : Egan Bernal, Geraint Thomas, Jonathan Castroviejo, Michal Kwiatkowski, Gianni Moscon, Wout Poels, Luke Rowe, Dylan van Baarle. Going to take some beating , but will Mitchleton _Scott have there number  or Movistar ?
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    Anyone got the route map...hasn't yet come out on BBC sport.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Alaphilippe has precisely zero chance of winning the tour, or getting anywhere near the podium for that matter. Points jersey, on the other hand, is a possibility - if Sagan has an off year and Matthews fails to fire.

    FWIW, my money would be on Bernal. He looks like he's got no weaknesses at all - and while his TTing isn't as good as the prototype modern tour contender (froome, Thomas, Dumoulin etc), his climbing is better - and this is a Savage tour, with even less TT miles than the last couple 
      Matthews will not be on sprint form for the Tour.  He and Sunweb have all trained to support Dumoulin for GC.  He's got no targets, and has been training to support in the mountains, in interviews he's pretty disconsolate about his Tour goals or lack of.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him do a late breakaway, but he says he has no condition for Tour bunch sprints.  Mathews won't win green jersey.
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    ColinTat said:
    Leroy Ambrose said:
    Alaphilippe has precisely zero chance of winning the tour, or getting anywhere near the podium for that matter. Points jersey, on the other hand, is a possibility - if Sagan has an off year and Matthews fails to fire.

    FWIW, my money would be on Bernal. He looks like he's got no weaknesses at all - and while his TTing isn't as good as the prototype modern tour contender (froome, Thomas, Dumoulin etc), his climbing is better - and this is a Savage tour, with even less TT miles than the last couple 
      Matthews will not be on sprint form for the Tour.  He and Sunweb have all trained to support Dumoulin for GC.  He's got no targets, and has been training to support in the mountains, in interviews he's pretty disconsolate about his Tour goals or lack of.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him do a late breakaway, but he says he has no condition for Tour bunch sprints.  Mathews won't win green jersey.
    Dumoulin not taking part in this year's tour , having a knee opp.
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    Already had his op.  It was to take a shard of gravel out.  Matthews trained to support Dumoulin, the whole Sunweb team did.   After Dumoulin did a u-turn in his car driving away from altitude training, Matthews gave an interview and was demoralised that his training program had no point, purpose and was the opposite of sprint specific.  He'll not win traditional bunch sprints, even though he's freed up to go for them.
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082

    Mark Cavendish has been left out of Team Dimension Data’s eight-man squad for the Tour de France.

    Edvald Boasson Hagen, Stephen Cummings, Reinardt Janse van Rensburg, Michael Valgren, Roman Kreuziger, Giacomo Nizzolo, Ben King, and Lars Bak have been selected ahead of the 34-year-old.


    Shame for Cav !

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  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    That's a pulling straws team.  Pulling straws on who can go in the breakaway next.

    Can't see how they can take Cav.  He won't be fit for the first week sprints, and will struggle to get through the first hard mountain stages.  At least Cummings can target what he wants, and I'll be interested to see what Valgren can do without a credible GC leader.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited July 2019
    Mark Renshaw has announced his retirement at the end of the season

    Him and Cavendish for HTC surely had to be one of the best sprint pairings we've ever seen surely? - the careers for both havent been anywhere near as good since that team went
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Cavendish has dropped out of the Tour!!
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Cavendish has dropped out of the Tour!!
    He was not picked.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/48838998
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Strange, thought I saw somewhere that he was in the nine
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Strange, thought I saw somewhere that he was in the nine
    He probably was, they are only taking eight  :)
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    eaststandmike said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Strange, thought I saw somewhere that he was in the nine
    He probably was, they are only taking eight  :)
    lol!... God knows who I counted twice in that list
  • Anna_Kissed
    Anna_Kissed Posts: 3,302
    The original TdF theme tune on Channel 4 in the 1980s.
    Music composed by Pete Shelley of Buzzcocks. RIP, Pete.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTYqzUE_9rY
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    Anna_Kissed said:
    The original TdF theme tune on Channel 4 in the 1980s.
    Music composed by Pete Shelley of Buzzcocks. RIP, Pete.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTYqzUE_9rY
    Should bring that back...remember it well.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    edited July 2019
    I don't know. I love the different regional music ITV play for the Grand Tours.

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