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  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    se9addick said:
    A wonderful achievement - to win the league with six games remaining, having lost no games and conceding only 9 goals all season is remarkable. One of the most dominant Rangers teams I can remember. 

    It will be very interesting to see what happens in the summer, I wonder if the English players - Kent, Aribo, Tavernier - will see that as “job done” and want to try their hand back down south.  
    Haven't watched much this season. Did Aribo play much? A lot of team sheets I only seen him as listed as sub but maybe they were the big games. How has he performed when played this season. The the fans rate him?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    orpingtonRED said:
    se9addick said:
    A wonderful achievement - to win the league with six games remaining, having lost no games and conceding only 9 goals all season is remarkable. One of the most dominant Rangers teams I can remember. 

    It will be very interesting to see what happens in the summer, I wonder if the English players - Kent, Aribo, Tavernier - will see that as “job done” and want to try their hand back down south.  
    Haven't watched much this season. Did Aribo play much? A lot of team sheets I only seen him as listed as sub but maybe they were the big games. How has he performed when played this season. The the fans rate him?
    Yeah he’s played a lot, and has chipped in with a few goals too. Fans love him, bit of a cult hero thing - he’s not the best player in the team (not even the best player in his position) but he’s exciting and has a touch of class. 

    I think he could do with another season with Rangers, I don’t think he’s at English Premier League standard yet, but if his progression continues on this trajectory he has a good chance of getting there. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    se9addick said:
    orpingtonRED said:
    se9addick said:
    A wonderful achievement - to win the league with six games remaining, having lost no games and conceding only 9 goals all season is remarkable. One of the most dominant Rangers teams I can remember. 

    It will be very interesting to see what happens in the summer, I wonder if the English players - Kent, Aribo, Tavernier - will see that as “job done” and want to try their hand back down south.  
    Haven't watched much this season. Did Aribo play much? A lot of team sheets I only seen him as listed as sub but maybe they were the big games. How has he performed when played this season. The the fans rate him?
    Yeah he’s played a lot, and has chipped in with a few goals too. Fans love him, bit of a cult hero thing - he’s not the best player in the team (not even the best player in his position) but he’s exciting and has a touch of class. 

    I think he could do with another season with Rangers, I don’t think he’s at English Premier League standard yet, but if his progression continues on this trajectory he has a good chance of getting there. 
    Nice to hear, appreciate that thanks.
    I've always thought he would get to a high level, he had something special about him even playing for us.
    Be a good experience for him another season at Rangers, plus fans back and a full stadium will be added experience.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,954
    I'd love to see any other team but Celtic or Rangers win it.

    Would be a breath of fresh air.
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    North Lower Neil said:
    I'd love to see any other team but Celtic or Rangers win it.

    Would be a breath of fresh air.
    Was fergie the last to do with Aberdeen or someone else since? 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,954
    orpingtonRED said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    I'd love to see any other team but Celtic or Rangers win it.

    Would be a breath of fresh air.
    Was fergie the last to do with Aberdeen or someone else since? 
    Nope that was the last time, 36 years ago.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    edited March 2021
    It’s almost inconceivable that anyone else could win the SPL nowadays. The chance would have been when Rangers were out of the league, and Aberdeen had a decent team during that period, but not one really came close to challenging Celtic. To put it into context I honestly think there’s more chance of Charlton winning the Premier League in the next 10 years than any team outside of the Old Firm winning the SPL.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    se9addick said:
    It’s almost inconceivable that anyone else could win the SPL nowadays. The chance would have been when Rangers were out of the league, and Aberdeen had a decent team during that period, but not one really came close to challenging Celtic. To put it into context I honestly think there’s more chance of Charlton winning the Premier League in the next 10 years than any team outside of the Old Firm winning the SPL.
    Two bob football, it has been for decades.  Apart from Aberdeen, has anybody else won the title?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    I bet 50k Celtic fans were happy they did not win today, thus avoiding Rangers winning the title at Parkhead. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    It’s almost inconceivable that anyone else could win the SPL nowadays. The chance would have been when Rangers were out of the league, and Aberdeen had a decent team during that period, but not one really came close to challenging Celtic. To put it into context I honestly think there’s more chance of Charlton winning the Premier League in the next 10 years than any team outside of the Old Firm winning the SPL.
    Two bob football, it has been for decades.  Apart from Aberdeen, has anybody else won the title?
    Yeah Dundee Utd won it the year before Aberdeen almost 40 years ago.

    I don’t really think it’s “two bob football” or a “pub league” I think the standard is fairly high for a small country’s league (Scotland has about 10% of the population of England or half the population of Sweden). I’ve been to a couple of games in Denmark and one in Finland, both countries which have comparable population sizes to Scotland, and the SPL is a better standard based on those very anecdotal experiences.

    It’s nowhere near the standard of the top leagues in Europe and light years worse than the English top flight, but I’m not sure those are sensible comparisons given the population and resource differences. I would say the SPL is probably lower English Championship at best with the bottom of the SPL being akin to the middle of league one (I went to Hamilton v St Mirren before lockdown and Charlton would probably be competitive against either of those teams). I think that’s fairly decent for a small country, but I like watching football all around the world whenever I get a chance to travel so can accept that not everything is going to be Premier League standard, if people are expecting every league everywhere to be of that standard then I can understand why the SPL wouldn’t live up to those expectations.
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,954
    se9addick said:
    It’s almost inconceivable that anyone else could win the SPL nowadays. The chance would have been when Rangers were out of the league, and Aberdeen had a decent team during that period, but not one really came close to challenging Celtic. To put it into context I honestly think there’s more chance of Charlton winning the Premier League in the next 10 years than any team outside of the Old Firm winning the SPL.
    Would take a perfect storm season like Leicester had - a team gelling perfectly etc while Celtic and Rangers both having seasons like Celtic have had this year.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    se9addick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    It’s almost inconceivable that anyone else could win the SPL nowadays. The chance would have been when Rangers were out of the league, and Aberdeen had a decent team during that period, but not one really came close to challenging Celtic. To put it into context I honestly think there’s more chance of Charlton winning the Premier League in the next 10 years than any team outside of the Old Firm winning the SPL.
    Two bob football, it has been for decades.  Apart from Aberdeen, has anybody else won the title?
    Yeah Dundee Utd won it the year before Aberdeen almost 40 years ago.

    I don’t really think it’s “two bob football” or a “pub league” I think the standard is fairly high for a small country’s league (Scotland has about 10% of the population of England or half the population of Sweden). I’ve been to a couple of games in Denmark and one in Finland, both countries which have comparable population sizes to Scotland, and the SPL is a better standard based on those very anecdotal experiences.

    It’s nowhere near the standard of the top leagues in Europe and light years worse than the English top flight, but I’m not sure those are sensible comparisons given the population and resource differences. I would say the SPL is probably lower English Championship at best with the bottom of the SPL being akin to the middle of league one (I went to Hamilton v St Mirren before lockdown and Charlton would probably be competitive against either of those teams). I think that’s fairly decent for a small country, but I like watching football all around the world whenever I get a chance to travel so can accept that not everything is going to be Premier League standard, if people are expecting every league everywhere to be of that standard then I can understand why the SPL wouldn’t live up to those expectations.
    Bottom 4 SPL, League 2 level?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    It’s almost inconceivable that anyone else could win the SPL nowadays. The chance would have been when Rangers were out of the league, and Aberdeen had a decent team during that period, but not one really came close to challenging Celtic. To put it into context I honestly think there’s more chance of Charlton winning the Premier League in the next 10 years than any team outside of the Old Firm winning the SPL.
    Two bob football, it has been for decades.  Apart from Aberdeen, has anybody else won the title?
    Yeah Dundee Utd won it the year before Aberdeen almost 40 years ago.

    I don’t really think it’s “two bob football” or a “pub league” I think the standard is fairly high for a small country’s league (Scotland has about 10% of the population of England or half the population of Sweden). I’ve been to a couple of games in Denmark and one in Finland, both countries which have comparable population sizes to Scotland, and the SPL is a better standard based on those very anecdotal experiences.

    It’s nowhere near the standard of the top leagues in Europe and light years worse than the English top flight, but I’m not sure those are sensible comparisons given the population and resource differences. I would say the SPL is probably lower English Championship at best with the bottom of the SPL being akin to the middle of league one (I went to Hamilton v St Mirren before lockdown and Charlton would probably be competitive against either of those teams). I think that’s fairly decent for a small country, but I like watching football all around the world whenever I get a chance to travel so can accept that not everything is going to be Premier League standard, if people are expecting every league everywhere to be of that standard then I can understand why the SPL wouldn’t live up to those expectations.
    Bottom 4 SPL, League 2 level?
    Hard to say as I don’t watch much L2 but I think that might be slightly harsh. Hamilton are perennially the worst/one of the worst teams in the SPL (this might be the year they finally run out of luck and go down) and I reckon they are about mid to lower English League 1. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    se9addick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    It’s almost inconceivable that anyone else could win the SPL nowadays. The chance would have been when Rangers were out of the league, and Aberdeen had a decent team during that period, but not one really came close to challenging Celtic. To put it into context I honestly think there’s more chance of Charlton winning the Premier League in the next 10 years than any team outside of the Old Firm winning the SPL.
    Two bob football, it has been for decades.  Apart from Aberdeen, has anybody else won the title?
    Yeah Dundee Utd won it the year before Aberdeen almost 40 years ago.

    I don’t really think it’s “two bob football” or a “pub league” I think the standard is fairly high for a small country’s league (Scotland has about 10% of the population of England or half the population of Sweden). I’ve been to a couple of games in Denmark and one in Finland, both countries which have comparable population sizes to Scotland, and the SPL is a better standard based on those very anecdotal experiences.

    It’s nowhere near the standard of the top leagues in Europe and light years worse than the English top flight, but I’m not sure those are sensible comparisons given the population and resource differences. I would say the SPL is probably lower English Championship at best with the bottom of the SPL being akin to the middle of league one (I went to Hamilton v St Mirren before lockdown and Charlton would probably be competitive against either of those teams). I think that’s fairly decent for a small country, but I like watching football all around the world whenever I get a chance to travel so can accept that not everything is going to be Premier League standard, if people are expecting every league everywhere to be of that standard then I can understand why the SPL wouldn’t live up to those expectations.
    Bottom 4 SPL, League 2 level?
    Hard to say as I don’t watch much L2 but I think that might be slightly harsh. Hamilton are perennially the worst/one of the worst teams in the SPL (this might be the year they finally run out of luck and go down) and I reckon they are about mid to lower English League 1. 
    I have groundhopped over half the Scotland circuit and had a thoroughly good  time.  I will give the fans credit with their passion(they put us to shame), even down to seeing the likes of East Fife and Albion Rovers.
    For Celtic and Rangers to pull in 50k every week is amazing.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,091
    Richard J said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    Richard J said:
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Aberdeen the last Scottish team to win it in 1985 .
    Been shared between the British and Irish since . 
    Love the passion they have up there , proper fucking oddbods though. 
    In my opinion this was Alex Ferguson's greatest achievement  He is the only manager to consistently challenge the Old Firm and was also successful in Europe. 

    I wanted Rangers to win the title this year because I hate no competition but I really want a third or fourth force to emerge. 
    A great achievement, but not on the same level as the treble. 
    It hasn't been replicated for 35 years and counting and as seen above it wasn't a one hit wonder and he did it with a provincial club not one of the Old Firm. 

    I don't underestimate what he achieved at United. He is imho the greatest manager of all time because he succeeded in both the 20th and 21st century as the game changed beyond all recognition. 
    Dundee Utd won it in 82/83, different times. Beating Real Madrid in the cup winners cup final is also incredible but i think most people would say the treble was his greatest achievement.
  • AllysArmy
    AllysArmy Posts: 41
    se9addick said:
    A wonderful achievement - to win the league with six games remaining, having lost no games and conceding only 9 goals all season is remarkable. One of the most dominant Rangers teams I can remember. 

    It will be very interesting to see what happens in the summer, I wonder if the English players - Kent, Aribo, Tavernier - will see that as “job done” and want to try their hand back down south.  
    Champions league ;)
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    Do we remember when Bowyer criticised Aribo for going there? A league title, decent run in the Europa and gets to play Champions league football next season.

    I bet he's gutted he ever left.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Do we remember when Bowyer criticised Aribo for going there? A league title, decent run in the Europa and gets to play Champions league football next season.

    I bet he's gutted he ever left.
    Not just Bowyer, quite a few here too...
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    Richard J said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    Richard J said:
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Aberdeen the last Scottish team to win it in 1985 .
    Been shared between the British and Irish since . 
    Love the passion they have up there , proper fucking oddbods though. 
    In my opinion this was Alex Ferguson's greatest achievement  He is the only manager to consistently challenge the Old Firm and was also successful in Europe. 

    I wanted Rangers to win the title this year because I hate no competition but I really want a third or fourth force to emerge. 
    A great achievement, but not on the same level as the treble. 
    It hasn't been replicated for 35 years and counting and as seen above it wasn't a one hit wonder and he did it with a provincial club not one of the Old Firm. 

    I don't underestimate what he achieved at United. He is imho the greatest manager of all time because he succeeded in both the 20th and 21st century as the game changed beyond all recognition. 
    Dundee Utd won it in 82/83, different times. Beating Real Madrid in the cup winners cup final is also incredible but i think most people would say the treble was his greatest achievement.
    It is all about opinions. 

    I suspect the treble he won with Man Utd will be repeated before a non Glasgow club wins a Scottish title. Indeed Pep may do it this year. 

    Jim McLean's Dundee United were also a good side ( including the famous Ralph Milne) but he only grabbed one title. Fergie's achievement was that he challenged over a long period of time and won three titles. 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,450
    I've watched Rangers quite a few times this season and they've looked pretty good. Surprised Tavernier has never played at a higher level.

    Aribo has looked okay but his decision making is sometimes suspect and for me he loses possession too often.

    Gerrard has done a good job with the team.

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  • AllysArmy
    AllysArmy Posts: 41
    se9addick said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Do we remember when Bowyer criticised Aribo for going there? A league title, decent run in the Europa and gets to play Champions league football next season.

    I bet he's gutted he ever left.
    Not just Bowyer, quite a few here too...
    I took pelters in the Aribo thread :)
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    AllysArmy said:
    se9addick said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Do we remember when Bowyer criticised Aribo for going there? A league title, decent run in the Europa and gets to play Champions league football next season.

    I bet he's gutted he ever left.
    Not just Bowyer, quite a few here too...
    I took pelters in the Aribo thread :)
    I'm sure there were people saying he should've gone to a team like Derby in the championship as that would've been a bigger step than Rangers. But Rangers guarantees you a shout of trophies and European football.

    In the late 80s, half the England team went to Rangers because English clubs were banned from Europe because of Heysel. European football is a huge pull for players. 
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    Chizz said:

    Scum bags.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,633
    When someone beats you to the last deep fried Mars bar.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,055
    guinnessaddick said:
    When someone beats you to the last deep fried Mars bar.
    The Spanners of Scotland...fighting with themselves :wink:
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Richard J said:
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Aberdeen the last Scottish team to win it in 1985 .
    Been shared between the British and Irish since . 
    Love the passion they have up there , proper fucking oddbods though. 
    In my opinion this was Alex Ferguson's greatest achievement  He is the only manager to consistently challenge the Old Firm and was also successful in Europe. 

    I wanted Rangers to win the title this year because I hate no competition but I really want a third or fourth force to emerge. 
    didn't even realise that Hearts are in the second division. Though they look like they are coming straight back up. 

    Used to think that either they or Hibs could possibly take the Old Firm on at wining the league. 
    we were relegated after they stopped the league last season due to covid.

    i genuinely believe we could have won it in 05/06 if that mental cunt Romanov didn't get rid of George Burley and replace him with that Nonce Graham Rix
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    cafcdave123 said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Richard J said:
    oohaahmortimer said:
    Aberdeen the last Scottish team to win it in 1985 .
    Been shared between the British and Irish since . 
    Love the passion they have up there , proper fucking oddbods though. 
    In my opinion this was Alex Ferguson's greatest achievement  He is the only manager to consistently challenge the Old Firm and was also successful in Europe. 

    I wanted Rangers to win the title this year because I hate no competition but I really want a third or fourth force to emerge. 
    didn't even realise that Hearts are in the second division. Though they look like they are coming straight back up. 

    Used to think that either they or Hibs could possibly take the Old Firm on at wining the league. 
    we were relegated after they stopped the league last season due to covid.

    i genuinely believe we could have won it in 05/06 if that mental cunt Romanov didn't get rid of George Burley and replace him with that Nonce Graham Rix
    I lived in Edinburgh from 2006-2008, towards the end of that era, and went to watch Hearts quite a few times (I lived on Pilrig so much closer to Easter Road but Charlton coincidentally played a friendly away to Hibs a week after I moved up and that experience put me off Hibs for life). It was a very good team that Hearts had, and Romanov was proper bat shit! 
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