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When you watch a really good midfielder, I suppose it's true in every position but midfield it is more obvious, they don't look like they have to think about what they are doing. When they play well it just looks natural and spontaneous.thenewbie said:
I think this fundamentally his main issue - no one else knows either, including him perhaps. He doesn't really seem to fit neatly into any of the "traditional" midfield roles but currently the combination he's part of is working.Cafc43v3r said:I am sure everyone on here has read Keith Peacock's autobiography. The chapter on Gavin is extremely interesting and relevant.
Albie is 22 now I have no idea what type of midfielder he is. One of his main strengths is his range of passing which is nullified by playing higher up the pitch.
Alfie always looks like he has to really think about what he is doing and what he is going to do next.
League 1 midfielders aren't complete, I get that, they are either not great at anything or specialist. We saw that with Fraser at Ipswich, we have seen that with about 10 of our players over the last 18 months. If Albie can find his speciality he could kick on, else he will be a squad player in league 1 for his career. Its a lot better than some people though.0 -
That's more about his lack of consistency, decision making, concentration etc though rather than his technical passing ability.colthe3rd said:Not sure I agree about his passing. He can sometimes play good incisive balls but equally he can misplace a 10 yarder.
All this time and we still can't agree about his best position or even best attributes, says a lot.4 -
Difficult one really as I'd argue at professional level the real difference between average and very good are those exact traits. I'd like to think the vast majority of players we have can pull off the majority of passes in training. Therefore it's a huge issue if Morgan can't consistently make those passes during the game because he's lacking mentally.Scoham said:
That's more about his lack of consistency, decision making, concentration etc though rather than his technical passing ability.colthe3rd said:Not sure I agree about his passing. He can sometimes play good incisive balls but equally he can misplace a 10 yarder.
All this time and we still can't agree about his best position or even best attributes, says a lot.0 -
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .paulfox said:
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.AndyG said:
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?mendonca said:His stats in the last few games speak for themself.4 -
I’m not saying it isn’t an issue, he’s not going to be a regular starter in a promotion chasing side unless he improves in those areas. A big reason he’s continued to get chances under different managers is his passing and vision.colthe3rd said:
Difficult one really as I'd argue at professional level the real difference between average and very good are those exact traits. I'd like to think the vast majority of players we have can pull off the majority of passes in training. Therefore it's a huge issue if Morgan can't consistently make those passes during the game because he's lacking mentally.Scoham said:
That's more about his lack of consistency, decision making, concentration etc though rather than his technical passing ability.colthe3rd said:Not sure I agree about his passing. He can sometimes play good incisive balls but equally he can misplace a 10 yarder.
All this time and we still can't agree about his best position or even best attributes, says a lot.3 -
👍🙄wmcf123 said:
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .paulfox said:
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.AndyG said:
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?mendonca said:His stats in the last few games speak for themself.1 -
wmcf123 said:
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .paulfox said:
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.AndyG said:
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?mendonca said:His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
Well said.
Morgan is fitter than he has ever been and to do two corner assists for Cafc is nearly unheard of.
Even the the two corners that went straight out was because we packed the goal line and he was so close to even more assists.
Gilbey and Morgan have flaws but I enjoy watching their energy and with Dobson defensively and Hopefully Fraser control in central midfield we will have options and Morgan and Gilbey can spent a few afternoons at Sparrows lane hitting the target because that is a major weakness in their game.
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Latest: Liverpool inform Trent Alexander Arnold to move away from all set pieces. Decision made as anybody perform this function with equal quality.paulfox said:
👍🙄wmcf123 said:
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .paulfox said:
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.AndyG said:
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?mendonca said:His stats in the last few games speak for themself.4 -
David Beckham, probably the best dead ball player England have had, took all Man Uniteds corners. They didn't score from a single one in the last 18 months he was their.
It took 1 corner for them to score without him.
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Keep on if it’s making you feel better mate. We’ve all got our opinions, I apologise for having a different one to yourself.I’ve never said I’m always right nor wrong, hence the forum being for debate.👍mendonca said:
Latest: Liverpool inform Trent Alexander Arnold to move away from all set pieces. Decision made as anybody perform this function with equal quality.paulfox said:
👍🙄wmcf123 said:
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .paulfox said:
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.AndyG said:
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?mendonca said:His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
you do realise Super Albie didn’t actually score the goals?, other stuff has to happen right?.2 - Sponsored links:
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Just a bit of a light comment!
Agree completely with your last point. No coincidence we've scored from set pieces the height and muscle of Inniss and Aneke in the box. 2/3 defenders generally looking to mark them individually.0 -
I haven't been a big Albie fan over the last 18 months, always felt like he has flattered to deceive with the occasional Hollywood ball. BUT, he has definitely stepped it up in the last couple of games and has finally started producing some end product (1 goal and 2 assists).
What is now genuinely exciting is that we have 4 midfield players who all look good enough/playing well enough to get into 3 positions. Hopefully they'll keep pushing each other for the benefit of the team. I would imagine it has really helped Albie to see how hard Dobson works for the team.0 -
I think the point being made is without Morgan in the side, very few corners were getting past the first man with pace, now more do. We have fewer floated corners too, which are easy for keepers to pluck out of the air.paulfox said:
Keep on if it’s making you feel better mate. We’ve all got our opinions, I apologise for having a different one to yourself.I’ve never said I’m always right nor wrong, hence the forum being for debate.👍mendonca said:
Latest: Liverpool inform Trent Alexander Arnold to move away from all set pieces. Decision made as anybody perform this function with equal quality.paulfox said:
👍🙄wmcf123 said:
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .paulfox said:
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.AndyG said:
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?mendonca said:His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
you do realise Super Albie didn’t actually score the goals?, other stuff has to happen right?.
He's got his shortcomings but as others have said, what he does well is what is earning him opportunities. What he does not do well is why he has lost his place time and time again.4 -
Agreed.Dazzler21 said:
I think the point being made is without Morgan in the side, very few corners were getting past the first man with pace, now more do. We have fewer floated corners too, which are easy for keepers to pluck out of the air.paulfox said:
Keep on if it’s making you feel better mate. We’ve all got our opinions, I apologise for having a different one to yourself.I’ve never said I’m always right nor wrong, hence the forum being for debate.👍mendonca said:
Latest: Liverpool inform Trent Alexander Arnold to move away from all set pieces. Decision made as anybody perform this function with equal quality.paulfox said:
👍🙄wmcf123 said:
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .paulfox said:
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.AndyG said:
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?mendonca said:His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
you do realise Super Albie didn’t actually score the goals?, other stuff has to happen right?.
He's got his shortcomings but as others have said, what he does well is what is earning him opportunities. What he does not do well is why he has lost his place time and time again.2 -
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No he's shit... I read it on here 😉stoneroses19 said:
Honestly don't think he was an 8.7 not even more than a 7.5 (6.5 plus 0.5 for each assist)1 -
Against a stat bank rating of less than 7.....stoneroses19 said:1 -
Reports are Manchester Utd interested in Albie, ‘we haven’t scored from a corner all season Albie Morgan is high on our list, his stats for his last game are great ,don’t think we need to look further than that., he could turn our season around says Rangnick……….. 😜😂Dazzler21 said:
No he's shit... I read it on here 😉stoneroses19 said:
Honestly don't think he was an 8.7 not even more than a 7.5 (6.5 plus 0.5 for each assist)3 -
Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?0
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This question has no bearing as to wether I’m entitled to an opinion, however if it’s for the purpose of putting me in my place the answer is no to both questions, so you can go ahead and fill your boots. My last post was in jest partly taking the piss out of myself because I have had a lot to say about Albie. Believe it or not I have a sense of humour unlike some. Because ive not played at a high level doesn’t mean I haven’t got any knowledge of football, ask Jose mourhino if he’s aloud an opinion due to his lack of high level playing. Hope this helps and gives enough fuel for you to try and belittle my opinion. Either way it doesn’t matter as he will play or not play, whatever I think about his ability. For the record again, I have praised and even god forbid stuck up for him in previous posts, but let’s not let that get in the way of people wanting to have a little dig. As long as he does well in Charlton shirt I’m happy, if he doesn’t then I’m not. It’s football a game of opinions. More important things in the world happening.👍🙄Silverdreammachine said:Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?3 -
I quite enjoy our back and forths that Albie enables. When he plays well, I am right when he plays poorly you are right. It's the Charlton rollercoaster full of ups and downs!paulfox said:
This question has no bearing as to wether I’m entitled to an opinion, however if it’s for the purpose of putting me in my place the answer is no to both questions, so you can go ahead and fill your boots. My last post was in jest partly taking the piss out of myself because I have had a lot to say about Albie. Believe it or not I have a sense of humour unlike some. Because ive not played at a high level doesn’t mean I haven’t got any knowledge of football, ask Jose mourhino if he’s aloud an opinion due to his lack of high level playing. Hope this helps and gives enough fuel for you to try and belittle my opinion. Either way it doesn’t matter as he will play or not play, whatever I think about his ability. For the record again, I have praised and even god forbid stuck up for him in previous posts, but let’s not let that get in the way of people wanting to have a little dig. As long as he does well in Charlton shirt I’m happy, if he doesn’t then I’m not. It’s football a game of opinions. More important things in the world happening.👍🙄Silverdreammachine said:Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?
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Clinton Morrison played football at a high levelSilverdreammachine said:Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?9 -
And our favourite goalkeeper that gives his opinion on teams... Shay Given - As in it's a given that he's wrong.Chunes said:
Clinton Morrison played football at a high levelSilverdreammachine said:Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?0 -
I think the player Albie is moving towards being is a busy play maker. He shows he has the ability but can be a bit hit and miss. Recently he has been more effective and needs to maintain that direction of travel to be an asset for us.5
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So do I Dazzler!!,I never mean to be hurtful, disrespectful to anyone on here, I also enjoy that we don’t always agree and I do respect others opinion that on occasion does change my own views. I’ve never been too big headed to accept I’m wrong about things. We all have the same wish for the best to come of cafc , I enjoy the debate, banter,bitching etc. LLLBH.👍Dazzler21 said:
I quite enjoy our back and forths that Albie enables. When he plays well, I am right when he plays poorly you are right. It's the Charlton rollercoaster full of ups and downs!paulfox said:
This question has no bearing as to wether I’m entitled to an opinion, however if it’s for the purpose of putting me in my place the answer is no to both questions, so you can go ahead and fill your boots. My last post was in jest partly taking the piss out of myself because I have had a lot to say about Albie. Believe it or not I have a sense of humour unlike some. Because ive not played at a high level doesn’t mean I haven’t got any knowledge of football, ask Jose mourhino if he’s aloud an opinion due to his lack of high level playing. Hope this helps and gives enough fuel for you to try and belittle my opinion. Either way it doesn’t matter as he will play or not play, whatever I think about his ability. For the record again, I have praised and even god forbid stuck up for him in previous posts, but let’s not let that get in the way of people wanting to have a little dig. As long as he does well in Charlton shirt I’m happy, if he doesn’t then I’m not. It’s football a game of opinions. More important things in the world happening.👍🙄Silverdreammachine said:Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?2 -
Part of our worst ever footballing period in our history and if he was any good the vultures would swoop as it stands they’re not quite seeing it just yet .
Just like Sheffield United he may come good .
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What are your odds on it mate ?oohaahmortimer said:Part of our worst ever footballing period in our history and if he was any good the vultures would swoop as it stands they’re not quite seeing it just yet .
Just like Sheffield United he may come good .1 -
I don’t do odds, percentages are my game .AndyG said:
What are your odds on it mate ?oohaahmortimer said:Part of our worst ever footballing period in our history and if he was any good the vultures would swoop as it stands they’re not quite seeing it just yet .
Just like Sheffield United he may come good .Majority of playing career
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Changed it for you mate. Thats how I see it anywayoohaahmortimer said:
I don’t do odds, percentages are my game .AndyG said:
What are your odds on it mate ?oohaahmortimer said:Part of our worst ever footballing period in our history and if he was any good the vultures would swoop as it stands they’re not quite seeing it just yet .
Just like Sheffield United he may come good .Majority of playing career
0% Premiership
25% Championship
15% League One
60% League Two and below1
