I am sure everyone on here has read Keith Peacock's autobiography. The chapter on Gavin is extremely interesting and relevant.
Albie is 22 now I have no idea what type of midfielder he is. One of his main strengths is his range of passing which is nullified by playing higher up the pitch.
I think this fundamentally his main issue - no one else knows either, including him perhaps. He doesn't really seem to fit neatly into any of the "traditional" midfield roles but currently the combination he's part of is working.
When you watch a really good midfielder, I suppose it's true in every position but midfield it is more obvious, they don't look like they have to think about what they are doing. When they play well it just looks natural and spontaneous.
Alfie always looks like he has to really think about what he is doing and what he is going to do next.
League 1 midfielders aren't complete, I get that, they are either not great at anything or specialist. We saw that with Fraser at Ipswich, we have seen that with about 10 of our players over the last 18 months. If Albie can find his speciality he could kick on, else he will be a squad player in league 1 for his career. Its a lot better than some people though.
Not sure I agree about his passing. He can sometimes play good incisive balls but equally he can misplace a 10 yarder.
All this time and we still can't agree about his best position or even best attributes, says a lot.
That's more about his lack of consistency, decision making, concentration etc though rather than his technical passing ability.
Difficult one really as I'd argue at professional level the real difference between average and very good are those exact traits. I'd like to think the vast majority of players we have can pull off the majority of passes in training. Therefore it's a huge issue if Morgan can't consistently make those passes during the game because he's lacking mentally.
His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.
Not sure I agree about his passing. He can sometimes play good incisive balls but equally he can misplace a 10 yarder.
All this time and we still can't agree about his best position or even best attributes, says a lot.
That's more about his lack of consistency, decision making, concentration etc though rather than his technical passing ability.
Difficult one really as I'd argue at professional level the real difference between average and very good are those exact traits. I'd like to think the vast majority of players we have can pull off the majority of passes in training. Therefore it's a huge issue if Morgan can't consistently make those passes during the game because he's lacking mentally.
I’m not saying it isn’t an issue, he’s not going to be a regular starter in a promotion chasing side unless he improves in those areas. A big reason he’s continued to get chances under different managers is his passing and vision.
His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.
His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .
Well said. Morgan is fitter than he has ever been and to do two corner assists for Cafc is nearly unheard of. Even the the two corners that went straight out was because we packed the goal line and he was so close to even more assists.
Gilbey and Morgan have flaws but I enjoy watching their energy and with Dobson defensively and Hopefully Fraser control in central midfield we will have options and Morgan and Gilbey can spent a few afternoons at Sparrows lane hitting the target because that is a major weakness in their game.
His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .
👍🙄
Latest: Liverpool inform Trent Alexander Arnold to move away from all set pieces. Decision made as anybody perform this function with equal quality.
David Beckham, probably the best dead ball player England have had, took all Man Uniteds corners. They didn't score from a single one in the last 18 months he was their.
His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .
👍🙄
Latest: Liverpool inform Trent Alexander Arnold to move away from all set pieces. Decision made as anybody perform this function with equal quality.
Keep on if it’s making you feel better mate. We’ve all got our opinions, I apologise for having a different one to yourself.I’ve never said I’m always right nor wrong, hence the forum being for debate.👍
you do realise Super Albie didn’t actually score the goals?, other stuff has to happen right?.
Agree completely with your last point. No coincidence we've scored from set pieces the height and muscle of Inniss and Aneke in the box. 2/3 defenders generally looking to mark them individually.
I haven't been a big Albie fan over the last 18 months, always felt like he has flattered to deceive with the occasional Hollywood ball. BUT, he has definitely stepped it up in the last couple of games and has finally started producing some end product (1 goal and 2 assists).
What is now genuinely exciting is that we have 4 midfield players who all look good enough/playing well enough to get into 3 positions. Hopefully they'll keep pushing each other for the benefit of the team. I would imagine it has really helped Albie to see how hard Dobson works for the team.
Agree completely with your last point. No coincidence we've scored from set pieces the height and muscle of Inniss and Aneke in the box. 2/3 defenders generally looking to mark them individually.
His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .
👍🙄
Latest: Liverpool inform Trent Alexander Arnold to move away from all set pieces. Decision made as anybody perform this function with equal quality.
Keep on if it’s making you feel better mate. We’ve all got our opinions, I apologise for having a different one to yourself.I’ve never said I’m always right nor wrong, hence the forum being for debate.👍
you do realise Super Albie didn’t actually score the goals?, other stuff has to happen right?.
I think the point being made is without Morgan in the side, very few corners were getting past the first man with pace, now more do. We have fewer floated corners too, which are easy for keepers to pluck out of the air.
He's got his shortcomings but as others have said, what he does well is what is earning him opportunities. What he does not do well is why he has lost his place time and time again.
His stats in the last few games speak for themself.
Yes I agree mate but what about the previous 92 ?
They don’t count, also shock horror, a pro footballer is able to take a dead ball kick, maybe he’d be good at American football!!, although they do contest kicks. He has improved but the overhype in his improvement is embarrassing. So easily pleased fans on here.
If it was that easy, why can’t everyone do it .
👍🙄
Latest: Liverpool inform Trent Alexander Arnold to move away from all set pieces. Decision made as anybody perform this function with equal quality.
Keep on if it’s making you feel better mate. We’ve all got our opinions, I apologise for having a different one to yourself.I’ve never said I’m always right nor wrong, hence the forum being for debate.👍
you do realise Super Albie didn’t actually score the goals?, other stuff has to happen right?.
I think the point being made is without Morgan in the side, very few corners were getting past the first man with pace, now more do. We have fewer floated corners too, which are easy for keepers to pluck out of the air.
He's got his shortcomings but as others have said, what he does well is what is earning him opportunities. What he does not do well is why he has lost his place time and time again.
Honestly don't think he was an 8.7 not even more than a 7.5 (6.5 plus 0.5 for each assist)
Reports are Manchester Utd interested in Albie, ‘we haven’t scored from a corner all season Albie Morgan is high on our list, his stats for his last game are great ,don’t think we need to look further than that., he could turn our season around says Rangnick……….. 😜😂
Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?
This question has no bearing as to wether I’m entitled to an opinion, however if it’s for the purpose of putting me in my place the answer is no to both questions, so you can go ahead and fill your boots. My last post was in jest partly taking the piss out of myself because I have had a lot to say about Albie. Believe it or not I have a sense of humour unlike some. Because ive not played at a high level doesn’t mean I haven’t got any knowledge of football, ask Jose mourhino if he’s aloud an opinion due to his lack of high level playing. Hope this helps and gives enough fuel for you to try and belittle my opinion. Either way it doesn’t matter as he will play or not play, whatever I think about his ability. For the record again, I have praised and even god forbid stuck up for him in previous posts, but let’s not let that get in the way of people wanting to have a little dig. As long as he does well in Charlton shirt I’m happy, if he doesn’t then I’m not. It’s football a game of opinions. More important things in the world happening.👍🙄
Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?
This question has no bearing as to wether I’m entitled to an opinion, however if it’s for the purpose of putting me in my place the answer is no to both questions, so you can go ahead and fill your boots. My last post was in jest partly taking the piss out of myself because I have had a lot to say about Albie. Believe it or not I have a sense of humour unlike some. Because ive not played at a high level doesn’t mean I haven’t got any knowledge of football, ask Jose mourhino if he’s aloud an opinion due to his lack of high level playing. Hope this helps and gives enough fuel for you to try and belittle my opinion. Either way it doesn’t matter as he will play or not play, whatever I think about his ability. For the record again, I have praised and even god forbid stuck up for him in previous posts, but let’s not let that get in the way of people wanting to have a little dig. As long as he does well in Charlton shirt I’m happy, if he doesn’t then I’m not. It’s football a game of opinions. More important things in the world happening.👍🙄
I quite enjoy our back and forths that Albie enables. When he plays well, I am right when he plays poorly you are right. It's the Charlton rollercoaster full of ups and downs!
I think the player Albie is moving towards being is a busy play maker. He shows he has the ability but can be a bit hit and miss. Recently he has been more effective and needs to maintain that direction of travel to be an asset for us.
Paulfox did you play football at a high standard, or are you still playing, just out of interest?
This question has no bearing as to wether I’m entitled to an opinion, however if it’s for the purpose of putting me in my place the answer is no to both questions, so you can go ahead and fill your boots. My last post was in jest partly taking the piss out of myself because I have had a lot to say about Albie. Believe it or not I have a sense of humour unlike some. Because ive not played at a high level doesn’t mean I haven’t got any knowledge of football, ask Jose mourhino if he’s aloud an opinion due to his lack of high level playing. Hope this helps and gives enough fuel for you to try and belittle my opinion. Either way it doesn’t matter as he will play or not play, whatever I think about his ability. For the record again, I have praised and even god forbid stuck up for him in previous posts, but let’s not let that get in the way of people wanting to have a little dig. As long as he does well in Charlton shirt I’m happy, if he doesn’t then I’m not. It’s football a game of opinions. More important things in the world happening.👍🙄
I quite enjoy our back and forths that Albie enables. When he plays well, I am right when he plays poorly you are right. It's the Charlton rollercoaster full of ups and downs!
So do I Dazzler!!,I never mean to be hurtful, disrespectful to anyone on here, I also enjoy that we don’t always agree and I do respect others opinion that on occasion does change my own views. I’ve never been too big headed to accept I’m wrong about things. We all have the same wish for the best to come of cafc , I enjoy the debate, banter,bitching etc. LLLBH.👍
Part of our worst ever footballing period in our history and if he was any good the vultures would swoop as it stands they’re not quite seeing it just yet . Just like Sheffield United he may come good .
Part of our worst ever footballing period in our history and if he was any good the vultures would swoop as it stands they’re not quite seeing it just yet . Just like Sheffield United he may come good .
Part of our worst ever footballing period in our history and if he was any good the vultures would swoop as it stands they’re not quite seeing it just yet . Just like Sheffield United he may come good .
What are your odds on it mate ?
I don’t do odds, percentages are my game .
Majority of playing career
0% Premiership 25% Championship 60% League One 15% League Two and below
Part of our worst ever footballing period in our history and if he was any good the vultures would swoop as it stands they’re not quite seeing it just yet . Just like Sheffield United he may come good .
What are your odds on it mate ?
I don’t do odds, percentages are my game .
Majority of playing career
0% Premiership 25% Championship 15% League One 60% League Two and below
Changed it for you mate. Thats how I see it anyway
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Alfie always looks like he has to really think about what he is doing and what he is going to do next.
League 1 midfielders aren't complete, I get that, they are either not great at anything or specialist. We saw that with Fraser at Ipswich, we have seen that with about 10 of our players over the last 18 months. If Albie can find his speciality he could kick on, else he will be a squad player in league 1 for his career. Its a lot better than some people though.
Well said.
Morgan is fitter than he has ever been and to do two corner assists for Cafc is nearly unheard of.
Even the the two corners that went straight out was because we packed the goal line and he was so close to even more assists.
Gilbey and Morgan have flaws but I enjoy watching their energy and with Dobson defensively and Hopefully Fraser control in central midfield we will have options and Morgan and Gilbey can spent a few afternoons at Sparrows lane hitting the target because that is a major weakness in their game.
It took 1 corner for them to score without him.
It's not easy
you do realise Super Albie didn’t actually score the goals?, other stuff has to happen right?.
Agree completely with your last point. No coincidence we've scored from set pieces the height and muscle of Inniss and Aneke in the box. 2/3 defenders generally looking to mark them individually.
What is now genuinely exciting is that we have 4 midfield players who all look good enough/playing well enough to get into 3 positions. Hopefully they'll keep pushing each other for the benefit of the team. I would imagine it has really helped Albie to see how hard Dobson works for the team.
He's got his shortcomings but as others have said, what he does well is what is earning him opportunities. What he does not do well is why he has lost his place time and time again.
Honestly don't think he was an 8.7 not even more than a 7.5 (6.5 plus 0.5 for each assist)
Just like Sheffield United he may come good .
0% Premiership
25% Championship
60% League One
15% League Two and below