Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
I can’t stand that either. Rooney was a classic example when Ireland tried picking him when he was 15. England do exactly the same thing so we aren’t blameless in this.
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
True but in Rice's case he'd played for the Ireland national team!
If you go all through your youth career and even making the national team as an Irishman, it's a bit much to then go 'actually i've changed my mind, decided i'm English after all'
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
True but in Rice's case he'd played for the Ireland national team!
If you go all through your youth career and even making the national team as an Irishman, it's a bit much to then go 'actually i've changed my mind, decided i'm English after all'
Ireland took advantage of the rules, they can hardly object when England do the same thing back
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
True but in Rice's case he'd played for the Ireland national team!
If you go all through your youth career and even making the national team as an Irishman, it's a bit much to then go 'actually i've changed my mind, decided i'm English after all'
It was the same thing with Zaha, but I do not think it is as problematic when they switch to a nation who are significantly worse than the one they left.
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
I can’t stand that either. Rooney was a classic example when Ireland tried picking him when he was 15. England do exactly the same thing so we aren’t blameless in this.
England have definitely taken advantage of these rules in other sports, less so in football as we've rarely needed to. I can't think of any foreign players who've been picked because they had an English grandmother for example!
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
I can’t stand that either. Rooney was a classic example when Ireland tried picking him when he was 15. England do exactly the same thing so we aren’t blameless in this.
England have definitely taken advantage of these rules in other sports, less so in football as we've rarely needed to. I can't think of any foreign players who've been picked because they had an English grandmother for example!
What about players who get picked just because they've lived here?
Sterling for example. Born in Jamaica, parents are Jamaican. Grandparents Jamaican.
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
I can’t stand that either. Rooney was a classic example when Ireland tried picking him when he was 15. England do exactly the same thing so we aren’t blameless in this.
England have definitely taken advantage of these rules in other sports, less so in football as we've rarely needed to. I can't think of any foreign players who've been picked because they had an English grandmother for example!
What about players who get picked just because they've lived here?
Sterling for example. Born in Jamaica, parents are Jamaican. Grandparents Jamaican.
Moved to London aged 5. On the basis of residency, education and his football development it's perfectly reasonable that he can play for England as well as Jamaica.
If he had arrived in this country aged 16 like a Cesc Fabregas, that would have been totally different.
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
I can’t stand that either. Rooney was a classic example when Ireland tried picking him when he was 15. England do exactly the same thing so we aren’t blameless in this.
England have definitely taken advantage of these rules in other sports, less so in football as we've rarely needed to. I can't think of any foreign players who've been picked because they had an English grandmother for example!
What about players who get picked just because they've lived here?
Sterling for example. Born in Jamaica, parents are Jamaican. Grandparents Jamaican.
Moved to London aged 5. On the basis of residency, education and his football development it's perfectly reasonable that he can play for England as well as Jamaica.
If he had arrived in this country aged 16 like a Cesc Fabregas, that would have been totally different.
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
I can’t stand that either. Rooney was a classic example when Ireland tried picking him when he was 15. England do exactly the same thing so we aren’t blameless in this.
England have definitely taken advantage of these rules in other sports, less so in football as we've rarely needed to. I can't think of any foreign players who've been picked because they had an English grandmother for example!
What about players who get picked just because they've lived here?
Sterling for example. Born in Jamaica, parents are Jamaican. Grandparents Jamaican.
Moved to London aged 5. On the basis of residency, education and his football development it's perfectly reasonable that he can play for England as well as Jamaica.
If he had arrived in this country aged 16 like a Cesc Fabregas, that would have been totally different.
John Barnes was 17 when he arrived.
Barnes' eligibility can be questioned, but that was 37 years ago!
Not gonna put all 13 tweets here, but this is the first tweet in a 13 tweet thread regarding the Iceland game, still no update but The FA are trying to get it played at Wembley still, rather than Germany
No one whose been to Denmark can arrive in the UK. Iceland play in Denmark on Saturday and are meant to travel to England after that match.
All previous quarantine restrictions has allowed elite athletes to be exempt from quarantine for two weeks. UK government have not allowed this exemption for anyone been in Denmark. Thus, Iceland players would have to isolate for two weeks before the match is played.
I couldn't be less bothered, i know they have to but 3 internationals again is a joke. No wonder alot of players are picking up injuries, also coinciding with our good run i would have preferred we were playing and dont fall games in hand behind. Saw a Holland v Spain was on last night and switched off, sick of internationals.
All seems a bit ridiculous. I thought sportsmen/women were exempt from Covid travel restrictions anyway?
But if this part is true (as i'm sure it is):
"We have agreed with the Icelandic team that they arrive on private charter to a private terminal and will only have access to their hotel and the stadium."
and they all undergo regular tests then i don't see why the government can't allow it. It's not like they're arriving on an easyjet flight and then getting the tube to Wembley.
Both Declan Rice and Jack Grealish scoring will go down really well with the Irish.
In this case I have little sympathy with the Irish, as both players have tenuous links with Ireland anyway - I've never agreed with allowing people to play for a country due to their grandparents, as that's too distant
There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
I can’t stand that either. Rooney was a classic example when Ireland tried picking him when he was 15. England do exactly the same thing so we aren’t blameless in this.
England have definitely taken advantage of these rules in other sports, less so in football as we've rarely needed to. I can't think of any foreign players who've been picked because they had an English grandmother for example!
Owen Hargreaves is the only player to play for England without previously living in the UK
Hard game for Ireland, never won at Wembley. Kenny looking for his first win, a draw would be a good result, having say that England haven’t beaten Ireland since ‘85.
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There's something grubby about the way countries try to hoover up players in their teens, Wales have done a lot of that in recent years
If you go all through your youth career and even making the national team as an Irishman, it's a bit much to then go 'actually i've changed my mind, decided i'm English after all'
Sterling for example. Born in Jamaica, parents are Jamaican. Grandparents Jamaican.
If he had arrived in this country aged 16 like a Cesc Fabregas, that would have been totally different.
But if this part is true (as i'm sure it is):
"We have agreed with the Icelandic team that they arrive on private charter to a private terminal and will only have access to their hotel and the stadium."
and they all undergo regular tests then i don't see why the government can't allow it. It's not like they're arriving on an easyjet flight and then getting the tube to Wembley.
I assume they can be trusted to not do what Foden and Greenwood did in Iceland