I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
did you play the original (album) version or the shortened single version (spits). I can see them getting a bit "bored" with a 7 min song * as a massive Doors fan I'd say it maybe wouldn't have been the best track to play them. maybe Roadhouse Blues ?? LA Women is great too. but again its 7 mins long.
I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
did you play the original (album) version or the shortened single version (spits). I can see them getting a bit "bored" with a 7 min song * as a massive Doors fan I'd say it maybe wouldn't have been the best track to play them. maybe Roadhouse Blues ?? LA Women is great too. but again its 7 mins long.
agree with what you're saying, but 2.55 out of 10?
I bet they'd give that dopey balls Will Young a better score for his version.
I can appreciate most music, not always like it, but certainly appreciate the originality and creativity to it.
I wish I had music teacher like you when I was at school!
Do you play each song just once and ask them to give a mark immediately? I think if so then that's why the pop songs have got relatively higher scores. Some rock music tends to be difficult to get into on first listen.
When I was at university I got interested in a lot of 80's music released before I was born. I remember it took me a few weeks to like Depeche Mode's music (I didn't 'get' it at all at first. Thought it was flat.) They slowly became one of my favourite bands.
I'm not a music teacher; I teach English and Film Studies. I do feel, though, that a teacher's job is to introduce pupils to more than just their specialist subjects, hence Music Friday, walks in the countryside, sharing my travel adventures and trips to Charlton!
I agree with your point but if they don't score immediately, they'd have forgotten by the next day!
I showed my Saudi students in Riyadh a picture of The Valley today whilst 'Valley Floyd Road' played in the background. They just looked at me in blank amazement!!
If any potential Saudi buyer was in there, he/she played a great poker face!!
Why no Simon and Garfunkel? no wonder the educational system is in such a mess :-), some interesting and surprising results there.
I've been saving Simon and Garfunkel for this year (when they are in Year 11) as I hope they will now have the maturity to appreciate them more. I've also been struggling to decide which track to choose.
Great initiative!!! I would think videos would have great influence on their markings... Mind you, now days its hard to tell weather we are watching a song supported by a video or the other way around.
So perhaps it is a good idea to repeat the experiment 2 more times. 1. Videos (or stills when none is available) andno sound 2. Audio only.
Chop chop...
I'll get back to you in ten years' time with the results.
Regarding the videos, if the picture quality is really poor or there is no video (or it's inappropriate), I find a video of something that fits the mood and, muting the sound, play that as the accompaniment instead.
Tangled Up In Blue should be played, and I reckon they'd score it at under 4.5, because of Dylan's voice, despite its genius.
Could I also request you go for some Jeff Buckley (ideally Lover, You Should've Come Over), and definitely definitely some Miles Davis (which will get panned lol)?
This is fantastic, though - I've enjoyed looking down through the list. Big Time Sensuality at 96 with a 2.85 rating is a travesty.
Why no Simon and Garfunkel? no wonder the educational system is in such a mess :-), some interesting and surprising results there.
I've been saving Simon and Garfunkel for this year (when they are in Year 11) as I hope they will now have the maturity to appreciate them more. I've also been struggling to decide which track to choose.
If I might suggest a couple for your consideration, in no particular order
1. Baby driver 2. Only living boy in New York. 3. Homeward bound 4. Scarborough fair 5. 59th bridge street song
I see the problem you got, sod it just let them watch “the graduate” obviously the uncut version.
Why no Simon and Garfunkel? no wonder the educational system is in such a mess :-), some interesting and surprising results there.
I've been saving Simon and Garfunkel for this year (when they are in Year 11) as I hope they will now have the maturity to appreciate them more. I've also been struggling to decide which track to choose.
Leaving aside the obvious BOTW, I would go for America or Sound of Silence ... although if they have heard the Disturbed version, they will probably prefer that.
I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
did you play the original (album) version or the shortened single version (spits). I can see them getting a bit "bored" with a 7 min song * as a massive Doors fan I'd say it maybe wouldn't have been the best track to play them. maybe Roadhouse Blues ?? LA Women is great too. but again its 7 mins long.
I can't remember which version I played. With hindsight, I agree that a different track may have been better and maybe I'll give them a second Doors track - your choices or maybe 'Break on Through', 'Riders on the Storm'. How about 'Indian Summer' for a very different style?
I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
did you play the original (album) version or the shortened single version (spits). I can see them getting a bit "bored" with a 7 min song * as a massive Doors fan I'd say it maybe wouldn't have been the best track to play them. maybe Roadhouse Blues ?? LA Women is great too. but again its 7 mins long.
I can't remember which version I played. With hindsight, I agree that a different track may have been better and maybe I'll give them a second Doors track - your choices or maybe 'Break on Through', 'Riders on the Storm'. How about 'Indian Summer' for a very different style?
Tangled Up In Blue should be played, and I reckon they'd score it at under 4.5, because of Dylan's voice, despite its genius.
Could I also request you go for some Jeff Buckley (ideally Lover, You Should've Come Over), and definitely definitely some Miles Davis (which will get panned lol)?
This is fantastic, though - I've enjoyed looking down through the list. Big Time Sensuality at 96 with a 2.85 rating is a travesty.
Kids these days... (says the 24 year old!)
Thanks, Paddy. I'll listen to your recommendations and make a decision. I definitely want to try Miles Davis or someone similar as I've become keen on jazz in the last couple of years.
Why no Simon and Garfunkel? no wonder the educational system is in such a mess :-), some interesting and surprising results there.
I've been saving Simon and Garfunkel for this year (when they are in Year 11) as I hope they will now have the maturity to appreciate them more. I've also been struggling to decide which track to choose.
Leaving aside the obvious BOTW, I would go for America or Sound of Silence ... although if they have heard the Disturbed version, they will probably prefer that.
I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
I'd like to run the inverse experiment on CL - expose our lovely fogey contingent to the hip and happening sounds of the current pop scene, with an average mark out of ten. Say the word and I'll start the thread. Minimum contributing age of 50
I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
I'd like to run the inverse experiment on CL - expose our lovely fogey contingent to the hip and happening sounds of the current pop scene, with an average mark out of ten. Say the word and I'll start the thread. Minimum contributing age of 50
Oh, and I've just chosen this week's song for my class. It's 'Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime' by The Korgis. (1980)
Walked into a locked ward and the sheet music of this one was on the piano at the activity room. Played and sang a heart rinsing version with my back to the initial audience of 6. Finished with a beautiful dbmaj9 chord, turned around to the surviving audience of 1 to receive a smoke request...
I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
I'd like to run the inverse experiment on CL - expose our lovely fogey contingent to the hip and happening sounds of the current pop scene, with an average mark out of ten. Say the word and I'll start the thread. Minimum contributing age of 50
I'm 31 and I don't listen to current pop music (except maybe one or two singers'). I checked out the UK singles chart and Billboard charts last week when I was doing exercise but almost all the songs sounded similar to me! So boring.... In the end I switched back to my old playlists which include pop and rock songs from the 80's and 90's....
I guess you need to be a teenager to appreciate all that stuff.
I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
I'd like to run the inverse experiment on CL - expose our lovely fogey contingent to the hip and happening sounds of the current pop scene, with an average mark out of ten. Say the word and I'll start the thread. Minimum contributing age of 50
I'm 31 and I don't listen to current pop music (except maybe one or two singers'). I checked out the UK singles chart and Billboard charts last week when I was doing exercise but almost all the songs sounded similar to me! So boring.... In the end I switched back to my old playlists which include pop and rock songs from the 80's and 90's....
I guess you need to be a teenager to appreciate all that stuff.
Couldn't agree more Jessie, the same thing happened to me but in a completely different era.
I was a great rock music fan in the 70s and by that I mean the conventional supergroups including Floyd, ELP, Led Zep, Genesis, Supertramp, TYA, Deep Purple and Yes … especially Yes. And then at around the time I got married aged 22 in the mid 70s Punk Rock appeared from seemingly nowhere. I couldn’t believe it. I’d listened to all these wonderful musicians for a number of years and then it emerged that three chord guitar players could make a living by simply cranking up the volume and distortion and shouting down the mike.
I’ve just watched nearly 4 hours of the Yes documentary on Sky Arts. Steve Howe the brilliant lead guitar said that at the time he thought it was a joke, but was gracious enough to admit that he and many others were caught off guard as the market dramatically changed. The thing for me was that punk rock was responsible for locking me into a fairly specific time frame for music, and that happened pretty much overnight and at a very young age.
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I always found the Doors overrated.
If you played that now, any football fan who goes to matches would recognise it from the "NEVER GIVES THE BALL AWAY chant!
I bet they'd give that dopey balls Will Young a better score for his version.
I can appreciate most music, not always like it, but certainly appreciate the originality and creativity to it.
Not so sure that their generosity of marks would be reciprocated.
If any potential Saudi buyer was in there, he/she played a great poker face!!
Have you got anything by The Doors?
No, only the fire extinguisher.
Regarding the videos, if the picture quality is really poor or there is no video (or it's inappropriate), I find a video of something that fits the mood and, muting the sound, play that as the accompaniment instead.
Could I also request you go for some Jeff Buckley (ideally Lover, You Should've Come Over), and definitely definitely some Miles Davis (which will get panned lol)?
This is fantastic, though - I've enjoyed looking down through the list. Big Time Sensuality at 96 with a 2.85 rating is a travesty.
Kids these days... (says the 24 year old!)
1. Baby driver
2. Only living boy in New York.
3. Homeward bound
4. Scarborough fair
5. 59th bridge street song
I see the problem you got, sod it just let them watch “the graduate” obviously the uncut version.
I'll post the final chart in about June.
Oh, and I've just chosen this week's song for my class. It's 'Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime' by The Korgis. (1980)
Played and sang a heart rinsing version with my back to the initial audience of 6.
Finished with a beautiful dbmaj9 chord, turned around to the surviving audience of 1 to receive a smoke request...
I guess you need to be a teenager to appreciate all that stuff.
I was a great rock music fan in the 70s and by that I mean the conventional supergroups including Floyd, ELP, Led Zep, Genesis, Supertramp, TYA, Deep Purple and Yes … especially Yes. And then at around the time I got married aged 22 in the mid 70s Punk Rock appeared from seemingly nowhere. I couldn’t believe it. I’d listened to all these wonderful musicians for a number of years and then it emerged that three chord guitar players could make a living by simply cranking up the volume and distortion and shouting down the mike.
I’ve just watched nearly 4 hours of the Yes documentary on Sky Arts. Steve Howe the brilliant lead guitar said that at the time he thought it was a joke, but was gracious enough to admit that he and many others were caught off guard as the market dramatically changed. The thing for me was that punk rock was responsible for locking me into a fairly specific time frame for music, and that happened pretty much overnight and at a very young age.
52 The Korgis - Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime 5.75 (out of 10)
93 The Cult - Love Removal Machine 3.58