Same here. Excellent. @captainbob I hope you won’t be offended if I nick this idea for my tutor group? Sounds awesome.
Go ahead. Quite a few teachers in my school have started doing something similar. I get each pupil to give the piece of music a mark out of 10 which I tot up as they tell me and divide the total by the number of pupils.
Over eight and a half years, I have played over 300 pieces of music. I have wondered whether a radio station might be interested in this when it finishes in May.
Suggestions if you are still playing songs to them - tested and approved by grandchildren: Virginia Plain (Roxy Music) We gotta get out of this place (Animals) Paint it black (Rolling Stones) The Actor (Moody Blues) You're not alone any more (Travelling Wilburys) All or nothing (Small Faces)
Thanks for the suggestions. I have already played two Rolling Stones tracks - Gimme Shelter and Jumpin Jack Flash (neither did well). We got get out of this place is definitely on my shortlist.
Great thread, it's important to show the kids proper music. Too many of my young cousins were listening to that grime nonsense so I had to show them the light and introduce them to metal, rock and roll and classic dance pop music. None of this wannabe American gangster toot.
Listened to my, 20, 17 and 15 year old cousins playlists and was very happy to hear what they listened to on a day to day basis.
Suggestions if you are still playing songs to them - tested and approved by grandchildren: Virginia Plain (Roxy Music) We gotta get out of this place (Animals) Paint it black (Rolling Stones) The Actor (Moody Blues) You're not alone any more (Travelling Wilburys) All or nothing (Small Faces)
Thanks for the suggestions. I have already played two Rolling Stones tracks - Gimme Shelter and Jumpin Jack Flash (neither did well). We got get out of this place is definitely on my shortlist.
I scrolled down the list on my mobile, so missed the Stones tracks. A few more:
Walls of Heartache - Johnny Johnson and the Bandwagon Walk away, Renee - Four Tops Love Child - The Supremes Cum on, feel the noize! - Slade Flight of the Rat - Deep Purple Teenage Lament - Alice Cooper Bits and Pieces - Dave Clark Five
It's a pity to me that you chose a Beatles track that I consider to be one of their worst! Two B-sides that are better than most A-sides - Things we said today & The night before.
It would be interesting to hear the views of younger lifers on my suggestions as well!
Great thread, it's important to show the kids proper music. Too many of my young cousins were listening to that grime nonsense so I had to show them the light and introduce them to metal, rock and roll and classic dance pop music. None of this wannabe American gangster toot.
Listened to my, 20, 17 and 15 year old cousins playlists and was very happy to hear what they listened to on a day to day basis.
I played "Teenage Lament " to my sixteen year old granddaughter yesterday. Half way through, she smiled (a miracle in itself) and exclaimed that she liked it!
Five years have passed since I posted my previous tutor group's chart of music; here is the new list (in reverse order) from my soon-to-depart tutor group. A few observations first: - This group scored more harshly - A few pupils struggled to understand that being asked to give a score out of 10 allowed you to choose numbers other than 0 and 10. - Despite the low scores, the class voted at the start of each year to carry on with 'Music Friday' rather than ditch it.
Oops! I was worried that you would open this thread! I will have a new group in September...
We've heard that one before...
I would be genuinely intererested to know what they think, there's always a chance they may have heard a lot of the songs on your list before, but I am pretty sure they wont have heard anything like the ones I suggested.
I wish I had music teacher like you when I was at school!
Do you play each song just once and ask them to give a mark immediately? I think if so then that's why the pop songs have got relatively higher scores. Some rock music tends to be difficult to get into on first listen.
When I was at university I got interested in a lot of 80's music released before I was born. I remember it took me a few weeks to like Depeche Mode's music (I didn't 'get' it at all at first. Thought it was flat.) They slowly became one of my favourite bands.
I'm not a music teacher; I teach English and Film Studies. I do feel, though, that a teacher's job is to introduce pupils to more than just their specialist subjects, hence Music Friday, walks in the countryside, sharing my travel adventures and trips to Charlton!
I agree with your point but if they don't score immediately, they'd have forgotten by the next day!
Trips to Charlton? I bet most of them would prefer the cane.
There is plenty of good music from every era - always a bit sad when people restrict their listening or say things like 'all modern music is rubbish'.
Much easier to access music nowadays...
There is plenty of good music about, but almost none of it is on mainstream radio or TV, As you say it is accessable too, but online it tends to be very polarised.
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@captainbob I hope you won’t be offended if I nick this idea for my tutor group? Sounds awesome.
Over eight and a half years, I have played over 300 pieces of music. I have wondered whether a radio station might be interested in this when it finishes in May.
Listened to my, 20, 17 and 15 year old cousins playlists and was very happy to hear what they listened to on a day to day basis.
Also convinced all 3 of them to support Charlton.
Great read @captainbob
Walls of Heartache - Johnny Johnson and the Bandwagon
Walk away, Renee - Four Tops
Love Child - The Supremes
Cum on, feel the noize! - Slade
Flight of the Rat - Deep Purple
Teenage Lament - Alice Cooper
Bits and Pieces - Dave Clark Five
It's a pity to me that you chose a Beatles track that I consider to be one of their worst! Two B-sides that are better than most A-sides - Things we said today & The night before.
It would be interesting to hear the views of younger lifers on my suggestions as well!
- This group scored more harshly
- A few pupils struggled to understand that being asked to give a score out of 10 allowed you to choose numbers other than 0 and 10.
- Despite the low scores, the class voted at the start of each year to carry on with 'Music Friday' rather than ditch it.
155 The B52s Rock Lobster 2.79
156 Amy Winehouse Love is a Losing Game 2.77
157 Olivia Newton John Xanadu 2.75
158 Eddie Van Halen Eruption solo 2.73
159 Moby Porcelain 2.68
160 The Sugarcubes Motorcrash 2.65
161 Shirley Bassey Goldfinger 2.62
Jimi Hendrix Voodoo Child (Live in Maui) 2.62
163 Minnie Riperton Les Fleur 2.59
164 George Gershwin Rhapsody in Blue 2.58
165 Baz Luhrmann Everybody’s Free (To Wear Sunscreen) 2.57
166 Sinead O’Connor & The Chieftans Foggy Dew 2.47
167 Suede She’s in Fashion 2.43
168 The Housemartins Happy Hour 2.39
169 Sigur Ros Hoppipolla 2.37
170 Guns ‘n Roses Paradise City 2.32
171 Bananarama Venus 2.29
172 Kate Bush Wuthering Heights 2.20
173 Tracy Chapman Baby Can I Hold You 2.04
174 Kraftwerk The Model 2.03
175 Kath Bloom Come Here 1.93
Cyndi Lauper Time After Time 1.93
177 Prefab Sprout Cars and Girls 1.41
178 Will Young Leave Right Now 1.39
179 Blondie Rapture 1.24
180 PIL Rise 0.95
181 Blur The Universal 0.60
136 Gabrielle Dreams 3.32
Harry Nilsson Everybody’s Talkin’ 3.32
138 Frankie Avalon Venus 3.30
139 Oasis Don’t Look Back in Anger 3.29
140 Nat King Cole Nature Boy 3.24
141 Millie Small My Boy Lollipop 3.23
142 Enigma Sadeness 3.19
The Rolling Stones Jumpin’ Jack Flash 3.19
144 Suzanne Vega Luka 3.18
145 The Pogues Sally MacLennane 3.17
146 Cliff Richard Summer Holiday 3.14
147 Coldplay Yellow 3.04
148 ABC The Look of Love 3.00
The Cure Just Like Heaven 3.00
150 Frank Sinatra I’ve Got You Under my Skin 2.95
151 Travis Why Does it Always Rain on Me 2.93
152 Bobby Goldsboro Summer the First Time 2.92
153 Madonna Papa Don’t Preach 2.90
154 The Sex Pistols Pretty Vacant 2.80
101 Blues Brothers Everybody Needs Somebody 4.07
Spiller (Groovejet) If This Ain’t Love 4.07
103 Method Man & Mary J. Blige You’re All I Need 4.05
104 Lykke Li I Follow Rivers 3.98
105 Evelyn ‘Champagne’ King Love Comes Down 3.97
106 Crowded House Weather With You 3.96
107 Gene Kelly Singing in the Rain 3.95
The Doors Riders on the Storm 3.92
Mascagni Cavalleria rusticana 3.92
110 Talking Heads Once in a Lifetime 3.90
111 The O’Jays Love Train 3.89
112 Billy Paul Me and Mrs Jones 3.88
Duran Duran Rio 3.88
114 Dexy’s Midnight Runners Come on Eileen 3.82
New Order World in Motion 3.82
116 The Cocteau Twins Cherry Coloured Funk 3.80
117 The Specials Ghost Town 3.79
118 Edith Piaf La Foule 3.77
Hansard and Irglova Falling Slowly 3.77
120 Julie Covington Don’t Cry for me Argentina 3.75
121 Bobby Brown Every Little Step 3.71
122 The Beloved The Sun Rising 3.70
Billy Cotton Red Red Robin 3.70
Erasure Sometimes 3.68
125 Abba Chiquitita 3.64
126 U2 Bad (Live Aid performance) 3.63
127 The Cult She Sells Sanctuary 3.58
The Jam That’s Entertainment 3.58
129 Take That Back for Good 3.56
130 The Animals We Gotta Get out of this Place 3.54
131 Lenny Kravitz Fly Away 3.52
132 Blondie Dreaming 3.48
133 A-Ha. The Sun Always Shines on TV 3.42
134 Bronski Beat Tell Me Why 3.38
135 The Bay City Rollers Shang-a-Lang 3.33
TOP 100 will be posted later!
70 Lionel Ritchie All Night Long 4.64
71 Miles Davis Ascenseur pour l’echafaud 4.63
72 The Beatles She Loves You 4.61
73 Kate Bush Running up that Hill 4.57
74 Charlotte Church Pie Jesu 4.54 Tony Christie Amarillo 4.54
Whigfield Saturday Night 4.54
77 Frankie Goes to Hollywood Welcome to the Pleasuredome 4.50
78 Terry Jacks Seasons in the Sun 4.48
The Smiths The Boy With the Thorn in his Side 4.48
80 Belinda Carlisle Heaven is a Place on Earth 4.45
81 Aretha Franklin Respect 4.43
Bad Manners My Girl Lollipop 4.43
Johnny Cash Ring of Fire 4.43
84 Public Enemy Fight the Power 4.42
Hassan and Agnihotri Tere Mere Beech Mein 4.42
86 Jamiroquai Virtual Insanity 4.37
87 Pastor T.L. Barrett Nobody Knows 4.33
88 David Bowie Let’s Dance 4.30
Fleetwood Mac Dreams 4.30
90 Judy Garland Somewhere over the Rainbow 4.25
91 John Lennon Imagine 4.23
92 The Righteous Brothers Unchained Melody 4.22
93 Tom Jones It’s Not Unusual 4.21
Carole King It’s Too Late 4.21
95 The New Radicals You Get What You Give 4.17
96 The Farm Altogether Now 4.16
97 Faithless Insomnia 4.12
The Ronettes Be My Baby 4.12
99 J.Travolta and O. Newton John You’re the One that I Want 4.10
Wings Live and Let Die 4.10
32 John Williams ‘Schindler’s List’ Theme 5.85
33 Chumbawamba Tubthumping 5.77
34 Toy Dolls Nellie the Elephant 5.70
35 Luciano Pavarotti Nessun Dorma 5.68
36 Sam Cooke Chain Gang 5.61
37 Elvis Presley Suspicious Minds 5.54
The Proclaimers I’m Gonna Be (500 Miles) 5.54
39 The Clash Should I Stay or Should I Go 5.52
Curtis Mayfield Move on Up 5.52
The Smiths Well I Wonder 5.52
42 Keane Everything’s Changing 5.45
43 Depeche Mode Just Can’t Get Enough 5.39
44 Led Zeppelin Whole Lotta Love 5.35
45 Quincy Jones Bossa Nova 5.32
46 The Gypsy Kings Volare 5.30
47 The Spice Girls Wannabe 5.26
48 Baccara Yes Sir, I can Boogie 5.25
49 Johann Strauss II The Blue Danube 5.23
50 Barry White My First, My Last, My Everything 5.21
51 AC/DC Thunderstruck 5.17
52 Dean Martin and Ricky Nelson My Rifle, My Pony and Me 5.08
53 Boney M Daddy Cool 5.07
Eiffel 65 Blue (Da Ba Dee) 5.07
55 Billy Idol Eyes Without a Face 5.00
The Dramatics Whatcha See Is Whatcha Get 5.00 Wham Freedom 5.00
58 Ike and Tina Turner Proud Mary 4.93 The Trashmen Surfin’ Bird 4.93
60 Beethoven Fur Elise 4.88
61 Whitney Houston I Have Nothing 4.79
62 Debbie Harry and Kermit Rainbow Connection 4.78
63 Astrud Gilberto The Girl from Ipanema 4.77
64 Dire Straits Sultans of Swing 4.74
65 The Chordettes Mr Sandman 4.70
Robert Miles Children 4.70
67 Madness Baggy Trousers 4.69
The Temptations Papa was a Rolling Stone 4.69
69 James Brown and Pavarotti It’s a Man’s World 4.67
MUSIC FRIDAY: Scores for music played in tutor time Sept 2019 – May 2024
1 Coolio (1995) Gangsta’s Paradise 8.87
2 The Jackson Five (1969) I Want You Back 8.48
3 The Village People (1978) YMCA 8.43
4 Rick Astley (1987) Never Gonna Give you Up 8.02
5 Ben E. King (1961) Stand by Me 7.95
6 Beyonce (2003) Crazy in Love 7.93
7 Haddaway (1993) What is Love 7.73
8 The Bee Gees (1977) Stayin’ Alive 7.56
9 Henry Mancini (1963) The Pink Panther theme 7.38
10 Bob Marley (1980) Three Little Birds 7.05
11 Eminem Lose Yourself 6.75
12 Elton John Rocket Man 6.65
13 Neil Diamond Sweet Caroline 6.62
14 Queen Bohemian Rhapsody 6.40
15 Louis Armstrong What a Wonderful World 6.39
16 Queen Radio Ga Ga 6.37
17 Abba Dancing Queen 6.31
18 Chic Good Times 6.24
19 Britney Spears Toxic 6.23
20 Don McLean American Pie 6.12
21 House of Pain Jump Around 6.08
22 Lesley Gore You Don’t Own Me 6.07
23 Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit 6.03
24 Huey Lewis and the News The Power of Love 6.00
25 Simon and Garfunkel Mrs Robinson 5.99
26 Skee-Lo I Wish 5.96
27 Marvin Gaye I Heard it Through the Grapevine 5.93
28 The Monkees I’m a Believer 5.90
29 Michael Jackson Black or White 5.88
30 Chaka Khan I Feel For You 5.86
Nina Simone Feeling Good 5.86
*flounces out with dismissive twitch of the head*
I would be genuinely intererested to know what they think, there's always a chance they may have heard a lot of the songs on your list before, but I am pretty sure they wont have heard anything like the ones I suggested.
"That's Alright Mama" is good - here's the ones I suggested last time Bob.
Train Kept a Rollin' - Johnny Burnette & the Rock n Roll Trio
Domino - Roy Orbison
Blue Moon of Kentucky - Elvis Presley
Maybe try a bit of British Rock n Roll on them too?
Growl - Johnny Kidd & the Pirates
Turn my back on you - Billy Fury
Brand New Cadillac - Vince Taylor & the Playboys
Seems like they rate familiarity as well, which must be why YMCA, Never Gonna Give You Up and Pink Panther are rated so highly.
No Pink Fairies?
Try ‘Do it’ or ‘City Kids’.
Much easier to access music nowadays...
(They will probably demand the 12 inch version)