Hearing what LdT says, he seems a lot more credible than his predecessor, of course that doesn't mean he is necessarily telling the truth in everything, I am pretty sure there is a fair amount of 'unicorn riding salesmanship' going on.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
On another note I made clear last night with general support from the FF that recent statements (around bottle and breakfast gates, etc) were counterproductive and helped no-one.
I asked if any of the interested party were involved in British football at any time, and LdT couldn't really answer claiming not enough knowledge of it. He was happy to rule out the Forest ex owner thankfully, although when asked about Mike Ashley he said MA (himself) has never signed an NDA with him (which is the first part of the process), but he left the door open saying sometimes he is dealing with 3rd party representatives so may not know the actual owner (trying to remember his exact words). He was non committal though so this must remain a rumour.
Razil mate........if Fawaz was to stump up Goldfinger’s asking price he’d bite his f’ing hand off. Do you honestly believe he gave them the elbow on some trumped up bullshit about NDA........never heard such a load of bollox? Goldfinger suddenly getting all self righteous and put out over some twerp/assistant putting up some photos and giving them the heave ho as a result......no way. It may justify a snotty worded letter/email from his lawyer expressing his ‘disappointment ‘ at the breach of confidence and a firm request not to repeat any such actions but to actually kick Fawaz into touch.........well I’m not buying that for one moment! The fact that the photos were swiftly removed did not go unnoticed by some of us by the way.....not saying that means anything necessarily, but make of it what you will. In short.........in the words of Artie Fufkin.......Money talks, shit walks!
Did anyone challenge this joker when he said the EFL is awaiting documents when Harvey himself has said this is not true?
This has been explained so many times and yet you still refuse to comprehend. The Aussies need to submit further paperwork to the EFL if they wish to proceed. The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted and are not the cause of any delay.
The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted doesn't mean they have had all the paperwork that needs to be submitted.
Did anyone challenge this joker when he said the EFL is awaiting documents when Harvey himself has said this is not true?
This has been explained so many times and yet you still refuse to comprehend. The Aussies need to submit further paperwork to the EFL if they wish to proceed. The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted and are not the cause of any delay.
The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted doesn't mean they have had all the paperwork that needs to be submitted.
"...As mentioned previously any change of control at the club is not as a result of the parties waiting for the EFL to process the necessary documentation..." this line is utter unmitigated bollocks, I can't even begin to work out what the scribe was trying to say EFL processing paperwork can't "change...control at the club so WTF?
Has the scribe omitted " any delay in change of control"? Or is this the crack that exposes the whole thing as just so much worthless drivel, doled out by the cynical septic old prick for the sake of saying anything at all to a crowd he holds in total contempt?
My money's on the whole EFL paperwork thing having been a flat out lie from the start, plausible enough at the time but simply not true, roly the arrogant no nothing twunt is sticking to his version come what may cos he knows best regardless of facts, truth or reason. Why the nameless 'person' that visited the Valley recently and proved untrustworthy? Everybody knows who that was cos we all saw the material. In short: roly claims the aussie bid is still in progress and they're taking their blessed time over it, ldt has one other bloke's phone number, a third is investigating the club but hasn't bid, and some contact has occurred with 2 others, but no dates or timescale on any of it; which all amounts to a shade short of fuck all, so why is the OS statement so full of waffle and bullshit? He really thinks we're utterly credulous doesn't he?
Hearing what LdT says, he seems a lot more credible than his predecessor, of course that doesn't mean he is necessarily telling the truth in everything, I am pretty sure there is a fair amount of 'unicorn riding salesmanship' going on.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
On another note I made clear last night with general support from the FF that recent statements (around bottle and breakfast gates, etc) were counterproductive and helped no-one.
I asked if any of the interested party were involved in British football at any time, and LdT couldn't really answer claiming not enough knowledge of it. He was happy to rule out the Forest ex owner thankfully, although when asked about Mike Ashley he said MA (himself) has never signed an NDA with him (which is the first part of the process), but he left the door open saying sometimes he is dealing with 3rd party representatives so may not know the actual owner (trying to remember his exact words). He was non committal though so this must remain a rumour.
Razil mate........if Usmanov was to stump up Goldfinger’s asking price he’d bite his f’ing hand off. Do you honestly believe he gave them the elbow on some trumped up bullshit about ND.......never heard such a load of bollox? Goldfinger suddenly getting all self righteous and put out over some twerp/assistant putting up some photos and giving them the heave ho as a result......no way. It may justify a snotty worded letter/email from his lawyer expressing his ‘disappointment ‘ at the breach of confidence and a firm request not to repeat any such actions but to actually kick Usmanov into touch.........well I’m not buying that for one moment! The fact that the photos were swiftly removed did not go unnoticed by some of us by the way.....not saying that means anything necessarily, but make of that what you will. In short.........in the words of Artie Fufkin.......Money talks, shit walks!
Having worked for a guy who was in many respects very very similar to RD, I can tell you he would, and in fact did, exactly that when a party broke a minor point of an NDA when we were selling the company. It may not seem logical business sense, but these 'eccentric's' often don't do the logical!
Also they had only just signed the NDA so outside of maybe (but doubt) having done some pre work on data available in the public domain, they were no where near in a position to make an offer as hadn't even accessed the critical data at that point.
Did anyone challenge this joker when he said the EFL is awaiting documents when Harvey himself has said this is not true?
This has been explained so many times and yet you still refuse to comprehend. The Aussies need to submit further paperwork to the EFL if they wish to proceed. The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted and are not the cause of any delay.
The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted doesn't mean they have had all the paperwork that needs to be submitted.
This.
I really don't get why people are getting so bent out of shape on this point.
covered end said it how it is and how it has been for some while;
The Aussies need to submit further paperwork to the EFL if they wish to proceed. The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted and are not the cause of any delay.
You can believe that to be the truth or not, but it is consistent with what both the club and the EFL have said for a while now.
The EFL "paperwork", and its ODT is starting to establish some grand, mythical status on here. Its starts to sound like some massive challenging scrutiny process, that only the most solid new owners can pass. If you believe the way this thread starts to speak about it anyway (no criticism implied of any individual poster)
Back in the real world, here are some comments about the ODT /regulatory environment. They are tweets from the fringe meeting at the Tory conference this week. I don't know about you but to me they paint a picture of a test that, until RD took the stage, any scumbag could pass (and often did). They reinforce my opinion that LdTs constant reference to the Aussies not submitting documents is a smokescreen. And I am being generous with my words there.
Hearing what LdT says, he seems a lot more credible than his predecessor, of course that doesn't mean he is necessarily telling the truth in everything, I am pretty sure there is a fair amount of 'unicorn riding salesmanship' going on.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
On another note I made clear last night with general support from the FF that recent statements (around bottle and breakfast gates, etc) were counterproductive and helped no-one.
I asked if any of the interested party were involved in British football at any time, and LdT couldn't really answer claiming not enough knowledge of it. He was happy to rule out the Forest ex owner thankfully, although when asked about Mike Ashley he said MA (himself) has never signed an NDA with him (which is the first part of the process), but he left the door open saying sometimes he is dealing with 3rd party representatives so may not know the actual owner (trying to remember his exact words). He was non committal though so this must remain a rumour.
Razil mate........if Usmanov was to stump up Goldfinger’s asking price he’d bite his f’ing hand off. Do you honestly believe he gave them the elbow on some trumped up bullshit about ND.......never heard such a load of bollox? Goldfinger suddenly getting all self righteous and put out over some twerp/assistant putting up some photos and giving them the heave ho as a result......no way. It may justify a snotty worded letter/email from his lawyer expressing his ‘disappointment ‘ at the breach of confidence and a firm request not to repeat any such actions but to actually kick Usmanov into touch.........well I’m not buying that for one moment! The fact that the photos were swiftly removed did not go unnoticed by some of us by the way.....not saying that means anything necessarily, but make of that what you will. In short.........in the words of Artie Fufkin.......Money talks, shit walks!
I dont know what to believe sometimes but I'm not wasting energy worrying about it.. I expect you are right in principle though, and maybe there were other reasons why that enquiry didn't go any further, perhaps LdT knows a tyre kicker from a mile off especially after working on this sale since January. I said he seemed more credible than Meire, but lets face it that isn't saying a lot..
The EFL "paperwork", and its ODT is starting to establish some grand, mythical status on here. Its starts to sound like some massive challenging scrutiny process, that only the most solid new owners can pass. If you believe the way this thread starts to speak about it anyway (no criticism implied of any individual poster)
Back in the real world, here are some comments about the ODT /regulatory environment. They are tweets from the fringe meeting at the Tory conference this week. I don't know about you but to me they paint a picture of a test that, until RD took the stage, any scumbag could pass (and often did). They reinforce my opinion that LdTs constant reference to the Aussies not submitting documents is a smokescreen. And I am being generous with my words there.
Played the new Fifa for the first time last night, Charlton were valued at under £5mil. Someone needs to get a copy for Roland, maybe that'll make him realise that the price he seems to be askign for is barmy, seemingly nothing else will.
Meanwhile on Football Chairman Pro, High Barnet are European Champions and playing to a packed 80,000 seater every fortnight, so the Aussies need to have a go at that, to see that anything is possible in this wonderful game.
Other comparable clubs the FF suggested were QPR, Fulham, someone said Portsmout (not sure about them), you might add Brighton, of course then you have to factor in league position, finances, etc
The EFL "paperwork", and its ODT is starting to establish some grand, mythical status on here. Its starts to sound like some massive challenging scrutiny process, that only the most solid new owners can pass. If you believe the way this thread starts to speak about it anyway (no criticism implied of any individual poster)
Back in the real world, here are some comments about the ODT /regulatory environment. They are tweets from the fringe meeting at the Tory conference this week. I don't know about you but to me they paint a picture of a test that, until RD took the stage, any scumbag could pass (and often did). They reinforce my opinion that LdTs constant reference to the Aussies not submitting documents is a smokescreen. And I am being generous with my words there.
I don't know that I would call the Tory party conference (or any party conference) the real world.
But these are all points well made.
It was an apparently odd choice of venue for what looks like a really good meeting, organised by Supporters Direct. Blackpool and Coventry Trusts gave presentations. Apparently they look to hold such events each year. It is seen as a way to get football on the politics agenda.
Damian Collins is the Tory MP who in his DCMS role has done more than any other politician to call Facebook and the Russians to account. If he were standing in my constituency I'd probably vote for him. who know how long he will be in this role, but while he is, there is a chance to get some changes moving.
Did anyone challenge this joker when he said the EFL is awaiting documents when Harvey himself has said this is not true?
This has been explained so many times and yet you still refuse to comprehend. The Aussies need to submit further paperwork to the EFL if they wish to proceed. The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted and are not the cause of any delay.
I think the club's explanation is incomplete even if it is accurate, which is the point. It is obvious the reason the deal has not progressed is not the absence of paperwork but that whatever is necessary for that paperwork to be supplied to the EFL is not in place - whether it is money, authority or whatever else. The focus on the paperwork itself by the club is therefore bollocks, to use the technical term.
Did anyone challenge this joker when he said the EFL is awaiting documents when Harvey himself has said this is not true?
This has been explained so many times and yet you still refuse to comprehend. The Aussies need to submit further paperwork to the EFL if they wish to proceed. The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted and are not the cause of any delay.
I think the club's explanation is incomplete even if it is accurate, which is the point. It is obvious the reason the deal has not progressed is not the absence of paperwork but that whatever is necessary for that paperwork to be supplied to the EFL is not in place - whether it is money, authority or whatever else. The focus on the paperwork itself by the club is therefore bollocks, to use the technical term.
Hearing what LdT says, he seems a lot more credible than his predecessor, of course that doesn't mean he is necessarily telling the truth in everything, I am pretty sure there is a fair amount of 'unicorn riding salesmanship' going on.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
On another note I made clear last night with general support from the FF that recent statements (around bottle and breakfast gates, etc) were counterproductive and helped no-one.
I asked if any of the interested party were involved in British football at any time, and LdT couldn't really answer claiming not enough knowledge of it. He was happy to rule out the Forest ex owner thankfully, although when asked about Mike Ashley he said MA (himself) has never signed an NDA with him (which is the first part of the process), but he left the door open saying sometimes he is dealing with 3rd party representatives so may not know the actual owner (trying to remember his exact words). He was non committal though so this must remain a rumour.
Razil mate........if Usmanov was to stump up Goldfinger’s asking price he’d bite his f’ing hand off. Do you honestly believe he gave them the elbow on some trumped up bullshit about ND.......never heard such a load of bollox? Goldfinger suddenly getting all self righteous and put out over some twerp/assistant putting up some photos and giving them the heave ho as a result......no way. It may justify a snotty worded letter/email from his lawyer expressing his ‘disappointment ‘ at the breach of confidence and a firm request not to repeat any such actions but to actually kick Usmanov into touch.........well I’m not buying that for one moment! The fact that the photos were swiftly removed did not go unnoticed by some of us by the way.....not saying that means anything necessarily, but make of that what you will. In short.........in the words of Artie Fufkin.......Money talks, shit walks!
@SoundAsa£ I think the reference to breach of the NDA by twitter was not Usmanov, but Fawaz - his lackey tweeted the picture of him in the West Stand and then quickly took it down.
Your mixing up your Kuwaitis with your Uzbekis which could get you into trouble with some posters on here
Nevertheless, I do agree that if he came back with the folding, Duchatalet would bite his hand off
Did anyone challenge this joker when he said the EFL is awaiting documents when Harvey himself has said this is not true?
This has been explained so many times and yet you still refuse to comprehend. The Aussies need to submit further paperwork to the EFL if they wish to proceed. The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted and are not the cause of any delay.
I think the club's explanation is incomplete even if it is accurate, which is the point. It is obvious the reason the deal has not progressed is not the absence of paperwork but that whatever is necessary for that paperwork to be supplied to the EFL is not in place - whether it is money, authority or whatever else. The focus on the paperwork itself by the club is therefore bollocks, to use the technical term.
I don’t think anyone, club included, take it literally, ie it’s just missing someone with a pen to fil out a couple of forms. The Aussies are currently unable or unwilling to do so, and it would seem it’s wholly in their court to sort out whatever it is they need to, to do so.
My personal belief is it’s possibly nothing more than they are sitting tight until the time (or ‘window’) is right, ie I wouldn’t buy the club in Late August, September, October or even most of November when there is little you can do to stem the £500k+ a month loss bar a few extra bums on seats, what’s the point of losing £2m. Or maybe that’s just me wishful thinking..... their only risk is they get beaten to it by someone else but probably a risk I’d take.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
100% agree about the boycotts, it was my opinion from the very start for what its worth. Look at the protests when we have had more people in the ground and the impact they had as opposed to the sorry state of the attendances now. Its going to be an uphill task to rebuild our crowds once Douchbag has left the club....we will see an improvement no doubt but like the Selhurst and Upton Park days, we are losing a generation of support the longer the boycott goes on.
Hearing what LdT says, he seems a lot more credible than his predecessor, of course that doesn't mean he is necessarily telling the truth in everything, I am pretty sure there is a fair amount of 'unicorn riding salesmanship' going on.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
On another note I made clear last night with general support from the FF that recent statements (around bottle and breakfast gates, etc) were counterproductive and helped no-one.
I asked if any of the interested party were involved in British football at any time, and LdT couldn't really answer claiming not enough knowledge of it. He was happy to rule out the Forest ex owner thankfully, although when asked about Mike Ashley he said MA (himself) has never signed an NDA with him (which is the first part of the process), but he left the door open saying sometimes he is dealing with 3rd party representatives so may not know the actual owner (trying to remember his exact words). He was non committal though so this must remain a rumour.
Razil mate........if Usmanov was to stump up Goldfinger’s asking price he’d bite his f’ing hand off. Do you honestly believe he gave them the elbow on some trumped up bullshit about ND.......never heard such a load of bollox? Goldfinger suddenly getting all self righteous and put out over some twerp/assistant putting up some photos and giving them the heave ho as a result......no way. It may justify a snotty worded letter/email from his lawyer expressing his ‘disappointment ‘ at the breach of confidence and a firm request not to repeat any such actions but to actually kick Usmanov into touch.........well I’m not buying that for one moment! The fact that the photos were swiftly removed did not go unnoticed by some of us by the way.....not saying that means anything necessarily, but make of that what you will. In short.........in the words of Artie Fufkin.......Money talks, shit walks!
@SoundAsa£ I think the reference to breach of the NDA by twitter was not Usmanov, but Fawaz - his lackey tweeted the picture of him in the West Stand and then quickly took it down.
Your mixing up your Kuwaitis with your Uzbekis which could get you into trouble with some posters on here
Nevertheless, I do agree that if he came back with the folding, Duchatalet would bite his hand off
Oh.....of course it was! Thanks for putting that right mate......my apologies. I’ve edited accordingly.
Had a conversation with someone the other day who works for the club, but only on a small basis, it seems like it’s common knowledge that Roland wants £35mil and no one is prepared to pay it, being the reason for the hold up of no takeover.
To me, the rest of what has been put out by the club tonight and previously is regurgitated nonsense.
Nothing will happen until someone pays Roland what he wants, or he somehow decides to lower the price.
If you try to float over all the words, common sense has to tell you this has to be the bottom line. If I put my car up for sale a couple of years ago and still haven't sold it, you can probably guess why! It might be something to do with me asking too much for it!
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
100% agree about the boycotts, it was my opinion from the very start for what its worth. Look at the protests when we have had more people in the ground and the impact they had as opposed to the sorry state of the attendances now. Its going to be an uphill task to rebuild our crowds once Douchbag has left the club....we will see an improvement no doubt but like the Selhurst and Upton Park days, we are losing a generation of support the longer the boycott goes on.
Think many more fans have just drifted away rather than boycott. Getting crowds back up for whoever eventually owns the club is going to be a monumental task. That’s going to be Douchatelets legacy.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
Think many more fans have just drifted away rather than boycott. Getting crowds back up for whoever eventually owns the club is going to be a monumental task. That’s going to be Douchatelets legacy.
Steps one pace forward. I'm bored with the whole takeover, will it won't it. I still take huge interest in the team and the Trust, but as I said to my wife when she asked. I think my last visits to The Valley will be with the Upbeats next year and maybe with the cycle ride to Amsterdam and I'm pretty sure if not done by then, I will be.
In terms of foreign investment I wonder if the value of the club will change after Brexit? Probably nobody knows, but I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that nothing seems to be happening? The club probably won't be sold until at least next summer.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
100% agree about the boycotts, it was my opinion from the very start for what its worth. Look at the protests when we have had more people in the ground and the impact they had as opposed to the sorry state of the attendances now. Its going to be an uphill task to rebuild our crowds once Douchbag has left the club....we will see an improvement no doubt but like the Selhurst and Upton Park days, we are losing a generation of support the longer the boycott goes on.
Think many more fans have just drifted away rather than boycott. Getting crowds back up for whoever eventually owns the club is going to be a monumental task. That’s going to be Douchatelets legacy.
Getting fans up from a similar point to where they are now has been done before. I think we have a poster on here who may have a good idea how it was done!
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
100% agree about the boycotts, it was my opinion from the very start for what its worth. Look at the protests when we have had more people in the ground and the impact they had as opposed to the sorry state of the attendances now. Its going to be an uphill task to rebuild our crowds once Douchbag has left the club....we will see an improvement no doubt but like the Selhurst and Upton Park days, we are losing a generation of support the longer the boycott goes on.
Think many more fans have just drifted away rather than boycott. Getting crowds back up for whoever eventually owns the club is going to be a monumental task. That’s going to be Douchatelets legacy.
Getting fans up from a similar point to where they are now has been done before. I think we have a poster on here who may have a good idea how it was done!
I think it might be a bit more difficult this time. We're the lowest ranked side in London (+ Surrey), apart from Orient and last time around there wasn't the availability of cut price Premier football in Stratford
True, but that can change reasonably quickly. I think we grew our support due to a constantly improving team under Curbs and the right decisions within the club administration which maximised that. It is harder if you haven't got the first bit! It might be impossible but I think we have a decent manager who might do things if backed.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
100% agree about the boycotts, it was my opinion from the very start for what its worth. Look at the protests when we have had more people in the ground and the impact they had as opposed to the sorry state of the attendances now. Its going to be an uphill task to rebuild our crowds once Douchbag has left the club....we will see an improvement no doubt but like the Selhurst and Upton Park days, we are losing a generation of support the longer the boycott goes on.
Think many more fans have just drifted away rather than boycott. Getting crowds back up for whoever eventually owns the club is going to be a monumental task. That’s going to be Douchatelets legacy.
Getting fans up from a similar point to where they are now has been done before. I think we have a poster on here who may have a good idea how it was done!
I think it might be a bit more difficult this time. We're the lowest ranked side in London (+ Surrey), apart from Orient and last time around there wasn't the availability of cut price Premier football in Stratford
I missed Wimbledon going above us. And I don't think it'll be long before we are above at least QPR and Millwall unless Duchatelet f***s up in the January window
Hearing what LdT says, he seems a lot more credible than his predecessor, of course that doesn't mean he is necessarily telling the truth in everything, I am pretty sure there is a fair amount of 'unicorn riding salesmanship' going on.
In terms of the sale RD is a stubborn wotsit and is not going to be mugged off on the valuation even if it costs him millions, and as we know it is. I am convinced however they want to sell, and this presents a dilemma not about protests (which I fully endorse), but around what value a boycott has.
I personally have never been a fan of them as I think they damage the club long term, but think on this. A more full ground with atmosphere on a regular basis is going to do more to help sell the club than a less full one.
On another note I made clear last night with general support from the FF that recent statements (around bottle and breakfast gates, etc) were counterproductive and helped no-one.
I asked if any of the interested party were involved in British football at any time, and LdT couldn't really answer claiming not enough knowledge of it. He was happy to rule out the Forest ex owner thankfully, although when asked about Mike Ashley he said MA (himself) has never signed an NDA with him (which is the first part of the process), but he left the door open saying sometimes he is dealing with 3rd party representatives so may not know the actual owner (trying to remember his exact .
True, but that can change reasonably quickly. I think we grew our support due to a constantly improving team under Curbs and the right decisions within the club administration which maximised that. It is harder if you haven't got the first bit! It might be impossible but I think we have a decent manager who might do things if backed.
It was done in no small part by highly effective community development work.
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Do you honestly believe he gave them the elbow on some trumped up bullshit about NDA........never heard such a load of bollox?
Goldfinger suddenly getting all self righteous and put out over some twerp/assistant putting up some photos and giving them the heave ho as a result......no way.
It may justify a snotty worded letter/email from his lawyer expressing his ‘disappointment ‘ at the breach of confidence and a firm request not to repeat any such actions but to actually kick Fawaz into touch.........well I’m not buying that for one moment!
The fact that the photos were swiftly removed did not go unnoticed by some of us by the way.....not saying that means anything necessarily, but make of it what you will.
In short.........in the words of Artie Fufkin.......Money talks, shit walks!
this line is utter unmitigated bollocks, I can't even begin to work out what the scribe was trying to say
EFL processing paperwork can't "change...control at the club so WTF?
Has the scribe omitted " any delay in change of control"? Or is this the crack that exposes the whole thing as just so much worthless drivel, doled out by the cynical septic old prick for the sake of saying anything at all to a crowd he holds in total contempt?
My money's on the whole EFL paperwork thing having been a flat out lie from the start, plausible enough at the time but simply not true, roly the arrogant no nothing twunt is sticking to his version come what may cos he knows best regardless of facts, truth or reason.
Why the nameless 'person' that visited the Valley recently and proved untrustworthy? Everybody knows who that was cos we all saw the material.
In short: roly claims the aussie bid is still in progress and they're taking their blessed time over it, ldt has one other bloke's phone number, a third is investigating the club but hasn't bid, and some contact has occurred with 2 others, but no dates or timescale on any of it; which all amounts to a shade short of fuck all, so why is the OS statement so full of waffle and bullshit? He really thinks we're utterly credulous doesn't he?
Also they had only just signed the NDA so outside of maybe (but doubt) having done some pre work on data available in the public domain, they were no where near in a position to make an offer as hadn't even accessed the critical data at that point. I really don't get why people are getting so bent out of shape on this point.
covered end said it how it is and how it has been for some while;
The Aussies need to submit further paperwork to the EFL if they wish to proceed.
The EFL have processed all paperwork submitted and are not the cause of any delay.
You can believe that to be the truth or not, but it is consistent with what both the club and the EFL have said for a while now.
Back in the real world, here are some comments about the ODT /regulatory environment. They are tweets from the fringe meeting at the Tory conference this week. I don't know about you but to me they paint a picture of a test that, until RD took the stage, any scumbag could pass (and often did). They reinforce my opinion that LdTs constant reference to the Aussies not submitting documents is a smokescreen. And I am being generous with my words there.
But these are all points well made.
Damian Collins is the Tory MP who in his DCMS role has done more than any other politician to call Facebook and the Russians to account. If he were standing in my constituency I'd probably vote for him. who know how long he will be in this role, but while he is, there is a chance to get some changes moving.
Your mixing up your Kuwaitis with your Uzbekis which could get you into trouble with some posters on here
Nevertheless, I do agree that if he came back with the folding, Duchatalet would bite his hand off
My personal belief is it’s possibly nothing more than they are sitting tight until the time (or ‘window’) is right, ie I wouldn’t buy the club in Late August, September, October or even most of November when there is little you can do to stem the £500k+ a month loss bar a few extra bums on seats, what’s the point of losing £2m. Or maybe that’s just me wishful thinking..... their only risk is they get beaten to it by someone else but probably a risk I’d take.
Muir heard that a certain Lord Lucan was a bit of a gambler & had a bit of money to invest so sent one of his lackeys out to find him....
Thanks for putting that right mate......my apologies.
I’ve edited accordingly.
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I'm bored with the whole takeover, will it won't it. I still take huge interest in the team and the Trust, but as I said to my wife when she asked. I think my last visits to The Valley will be with the Upbeats next year and maybe with the cycle ride to Amsterdam and I'm pretty sure if not done by then, I will be.
Probably nobody knows, but I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that nothing seems to be happening?
The club probably won't be sold until at least next summer.
https://castrust.org/2018/10/takeover-update-2/