Gammon ---Gammon o dear o dear Leuths utter bollox hits a new low
Gammon has been used for years by cyclists to refer to Addison Lee cabbies and White van men - frustrated, fat and pink, sat in their tin boxes in traffic just looking for an excuse to take out their frustration at their lot in life on someone. It's not a new thing.
In fact, as a cyclist, I resent this cultural misappropriation of a cycling term. Leuth, you should be ashamed
And, I’m thinking of starting a petition to remove any murals that depict the the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, that don’t include white peoples faces, as they played a part as well.
What murals are you referring to? Ones in your imagination to feel indignant about? Or do you have some specific ones in mind?
None that I know of personally, but as sure as eggs are eggs, there will be some, and the point I am making is that I would not be indignant about any that do exist, this student idiot clearly has a one way agenda
That’s not my point though is it, would she be equally outraged and triggered if she came across murals referencing apartheid that don’t include white people? I doubt it She’s attention seeking and virtual signalling
Boiled bacon with peas pudding and gammon steak with a pineapple ring on top are in my top 10 meals, so happy to be referred to as that culinary delight meself.
And, I’m thinking of starting a petition to remove any murals that depict the the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, that don’t include white peoples faces, as they played a part as well.
What murals are you referring to? Ones in your imagination to feel indignant about? Or do you have some specific ones in mind?
None that I know of personally, but as sure as eggs are eggs, there will be some, and the point I am making is that I would not be indignant about any that do exist, this student idiot clearly has a one way agenda
That’s not my point though is it, would she be equally outraged and triggered if she came across murals referencing apartheid that don’t include white people? I doubt it She’s attention seeking and virtual signalling
I agree with you E but was making the point that the white activists in the AA movement are remembered
And, I’m thinking of starting a petition to remove any murals that depict the the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, that don’t include white peoples faces, as they played a part as well.
What murals are you referring to? Ones in your imagination to feel indignant about? Or do you have some specific ones in mind?
None that I know of personally, but as sure as eggs are eggs, there will be some, and the point I am making is that I would not be indignant about any that do exist, this student idiot clearly has a one way agenda
That’s not my point though is it, would she be equally outraged and triggered if she came across murals referencing apartheid that don’t include white people? I doubt it She’s attention seeking and virtual signalling
The woman's an idiot and as you say attention seeking which she's certainly achieved.
And, I’m thinking of starting a petition to remove any murals that depict the the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, that don’t include white peoples faces, as they played a part as well.
What murals are you referring to? Ones in your imagination to feel indignant about? Or do you have some specific ones in mind?
None that I know of personally, but as sure as eggs are eggs, there will be some, and the point I am making is that I would not be indignant about any that do exist, this student idiot clearly has a one way agenda
That’s not my point though is it, would she be equally outraged and triggered if she came across murals referencing apartheid that don’t include white people? I doubt it She’s attention seeking and virtual signalling
I agree with you E but was making the point that the white activists in the AA movement are remembered
I was aware there probably would have been, faux outrage on my part to highlight her stupidity
Having just got to this thread and just seen what she'd said, I have a sneaking suspicion that she didn't know it was a WWI mural.
This is the sort of slightly faux feminism I dislike - rushed and clamouring to be intersectional as much as possible, with little to no research. It seems a little disingenuous to tweet that into what would usually be an echo chamber.
Feminism is absolutely necessary and I'm definitely proud to be feminist, but bloody hell, it would be nice if people thought before they spoke and tweeted. It's like when people use false statistics to back up a point we know is true. To paraphrase a friend who put it far better than I could:
"{We need to] publish proper research and factually accurate reports of those studies [ed: in this case, into under-reporting of sexual assault]. Not doing so seriously undermines feminism as an academic enterprise, and as a movement which relies on these studies to justify its cause.
It essentially gives the world good reason to discredit what feminists say."
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And what we have after this tweet is somewhat justified outrage and oh it's all a mess and I hate it
Do you find that being a feminist helps you get more fanny?
I find that being a feminist helps me think critically and helps me strive to become a better person.
And, I’m thinking of starting a petition to remove any murals that depict the the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, that don’t include white peoples faces, as they played a part as well.
What murals are you referring to? Ones in your imagination to feel indignant about? Or do you have some specific ones in mind?
None that I know of personally, but as sure as eggs are eggs, there will be some, and the point I am making is that I would not be indignant about any that do exist, this student idiot clearly has a one way agenda
That’s not my point though is it, would she be equally outraged and triggered if she came across murals referencing apartheid that don’t include white people? I doubt it She’s attention seeking and virtual signalling
I agree with you E but was making the point that the white activists in the AA movement are remembered
I was aware there probably would have been, faux outrage on my part to highlight her stupidity
Unfortunately, for many others that outrage isn't faux and is used to entrench their prejudices. Emily Dawes is one but plenty others on the left and right do the same.
Going off on a slight tangent but Radio Four just had a feature on words like Gammon (sic) and Snowflake (sic).
Having just got to this thread and just seen what she'd said, I have a sneaking suspicion that she didn't know it was a WWI mural.
This is the sort of slightly faux feminism I dislike - rushed and clamouring to be intersectional as much as possible, with little to no research. It seems a little disingenuous to tweet that into what would usually be an echo chamber.
Feminism is absolutely necessary and I'm definitely proud to be feminist, but bloody hell, it would be nice if people thought before they spoke and tweeted. It's like when people use false statistics to back up a point we know is true. To paraphrase a friend who put it far better than I could:
"{We need to] publish proper research and factually accurate reports of those studies [ed: in this case, into under-reporting of sexual assault]. Not doing so seriously undermines feminism as an academic enterprise, and as a movement which relies on these studies to justify its cause.
It essentially gives the world good reason to discredit what feminists say."
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And what we have after this tweet is somewhat justified outrage and oh it's all a mess and I hate it
Do you find that being a feminist helps you get more fanny?
I find that being a feminist helps me think critically and helps me strive to become a better person.
Don't get you outta doing the washing up though, does it
Having just got to this thread and just seen what she'd said, I have a sneaking suspicion that she didn't know it was a WWI mural.
This is the sort of slightly faux feminism I dislike - rushed and clamouring to be intersectional as much as possible, with little to no research. It seems a little disingenuous to tweet that into what would usually be an echo chamber.
Feminism is absolutely necessary and I'm definitely proud to be feminist, but bloody hell, it would be nice if people thought before they spoke and tweeted. It's like when people use false statistics to back up a point we know is true. To paraphrase a friend who put it far better than I could:
"{We need to] publish proper research and factually accurate reports of those studies [ed: in this case, into under-reporting of sexual assault]. Not doing so seriously undermines feminism as an academic enterprise, and as a movement which relies on these studies to justify its cause.
It essentially gives the world good reason to discredit what feminists say."
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And what we have after this tweet is somewhat justified outrage and oh it's all a mess and I hate it
Do you find that being a feminist helps you get more fanny?
I find that being a feminist helps me think critically and helps me strive to become a better person.
Having just got to this thread and just seen what she'd said, I have a sneaking suspicion that she didn't know it was a WWI mural.
This is the sort of slightly faux feminism I dislike - rushed and clamouring to be intersectional as much as possible, with little to no research. It seems a little disingenuous to tweet that into what would usually be an echo chamber.
Feminism is absolutely necessary and I'm definitely proud to be feminist, but bloody hell, it would be nice if people thought before they spoke and tweeted. It's like when people use false statistics to back up a point we know is true. To paraphrase a friend who put it far better than I could:
"{We need to] publish proper research and factually accurate reports of those studies [ed: in this case, into under-reporting of sexual assault]. Not doing so seriously undermines feminism as an academic enterprise, and as a movement which relies on these studies to justify its cause.
It essentially gives the world good reason to discredit what feminists say."
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And what we have after this tweet is somewhat justified outrage and oh it's all a mess and I hate it
Do you find that being a feminist helps you get more fanny?
I find that being a feminist helps me think critically and helps me strive to become a better person.
soooooo, more fanny? less fanny?
That's between me and my enthusiastically consenting harem thank you very much.
Having just got to this thread and just seen what she'd said, I have a sneaking suspicion that she didn't know it was a WWI mural.
This is the sort of slightly faux feminism I dislike - rushed and clamouring to be intersectional as much as possible, with little to no research. It seems a little disingenuous to tweet that into what would usually be an echo chamber.
Feminism is absolutely necessary and I'm definitely proud to be feminist, but bloody hell, it would be nice if people thought before they spoke and tweeted. It's like when people use false statistics to back up a point we know is true. To paraphrase a friend who put it far better than I could:
"{We need to] publish proper research and factually accurate reports of those studies [ed: in this case, into under-reporting of sexual assault]. Not doing so seriously undermines feminism as an academic enterprise, and as a movement which relies on these studies to justify its cause.
It essentially gives the world good reason to discredit what feminists say."
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And what we have after this tweet is somewhat justified outrage and oh it's all a mess and I hate it
Do you find that being a feminist helps you get more fanny?
I find that being a feminist helps me think critically and helps me strive to become a better person.
soooooo, more fanny? less fanny?
That's between me and my enthusiastically consenting harem thank you very much.
Having just got to this thread and just seen what she'd said, I have a sneaking suspicion that she didn't know it was a WWI mural.
This is the sort of slightly faux feminism I dislike - rushed and clamouring to be intersectional as much as possible, with little to no research. It seems a little disingenuous to tweet that into what would usually be an echo chamber.
Feminism is absolutely necessary and I'm definitely proud to be feminist, but bloody hell, it would be nice if people thought before they spoke and tweeted. It's like when people use false statistics to back up a point we know is true. To paraphrase a friend who put it far better than I could:
"{We need to] publish proper research and factually accurate reports of those studies [ed: in this case, into under-reporting of sexual assault]. Not doing so seriously undermines feminism as an academic enterprise, and as a movement which relies on these studies to justify its cause.
It essentially gives the world good reason to discredit what feminists say."
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And what we have after this tweet is somewhat justified outrage and oh it's all a mess and I hate it
Do you find that being a feminist helps you get more fanny?
I find that being a feminist helps me think critically and helps me strive to become a better person.
Having just got to this thread and just seen what she'd said, I have a sneaking suspicion that she didn't know it was a WWI mural.
This is the sort of slightly faux feminism I dislike - rushed and clamouring to be intersectional as much as possible, with little to no research. It seems a little disingenuous to tweet that into what would usually be an echo chamber.
Feminism is absolutely necessary and I'm definitely proud to be feminist, but bloody hell, it would be nice if people thought before they spoke and tweeted. It's like when people use false statistics to back up a point we know is true. To paraphrase a friend who put it far better than I could:
"{We need to] publish proper research and factually accurate reports of those studies [ed: in this case, into under-reporting of sexual assault]. Not doing so seriously undermines feminism as an academic enterprise, and as a movement which relies on these studies to justify its cause.
It essentially gives the world good reason to discredit what feminists say."
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And what we have after this tweet is somewhat justified outrage and oh it's all a mess and I hate it
Do you find that being a feminist helps you get more fanny?
I find that being a feminist helps me think critically and helps me strive to become a better person.
And, I’m thinking of starting a petition to remove any murals that depict the the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, that don’t include white peoples faces, as they played a part as well.
What murals are you referring to? Ones in your imagination to feel indignant about? Or do you have some specific ones in mind?
None that I know of personally, but as sure as eggs are eggs, there will be some, and the point I am making is that I would not be indignant about any that do exist, this student idiot clearly has a one way agenda
That’s not my point though is it, would she be equally outraged and triggered if she came across murals referencing apartheid that don’t include white people? I doubt it She’s attention seeking and virtual signalling
Well when she comes across some we may see. A Tory MEP made some highly disrespectful and offensive remarks in the European parliament teh other day which nobody seems as bothered about as some silly student.
And, I’m thinking of starting a petition to remove any murals that depict the the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, that don’t include white peoples faces, as they played a part as well.
What murals are you referring to? Ones in your imagination to feel indignant about? Or do you have some specific ones in mind?
None that I know of personally, but as sure as eggs are eggs, there will be some, and the point I am making is that I would not be indignant about any that do exist, this student idiot clearly has a one way agenda
That’s not my point though is it, would she be equally outraged and triggered if she came across murals referencing apartheid that don’t include white people? I doubt it She’s attention seeking and virtual signalling
Well when she comes across some we may see. A Tory MEP made some highly disrespectful and offensive remarks in the European parliament teh other day which nobody seems as bothered about as some silly student.
No, it was highly disrespectful to people who lost their lives in the war who fought against the Nazis. Those that have given the ultimate sacrifice for freedom should be respected by everybody.
No, it was highly disrespectful to people who lost their lives in the war who fought against the Nazis. Those that have given the ultimate sacrifice for freedom should be respected by everybody.
He was saying that socialists were similar to national socialists - Nazis, in front of the socialist group. Where offence was rightfully taken, was that many socialists lost their lives standing up to the nazis. My Italian Uncle was a socialist who risked his life, and lost friends fighting them during the war. You don't have to agree with their politics, but to label them the same thing they sacrificed all for is insulting and disgusting.
He was saying that socialists were similar to national socialists - Nazis, in front of the socialist group. Where offence was rightfully taken, was that many socialists lost their lives standing up to the nazis. My Italian Uncle was a socialist who risked his life, and lost friends fighting them during the war. You don't have to agree with their politics, but to label them the same thing they sacrificed all for is insulting and disgusting.
Yes - but it isn't about sides, it is about standards.
So why point out he's a Tory then? As you say it should be unanimous. Likening people to Nazis because you don't agree with their politics is wrong, unless they are obviously Nazi of course, but it seems to be an everyday occurrence to stifle and close down reasoned debate these days. Today it's a "Tory" vrs "Socialists", but it is usual6tbe polar opposite to be fair
Because he is a Tory MEP. Same as this woman is described as being part of the Student Union! Are you the god given defender of the Tories or something? I criticised the subject of this thread and have criticised anybody calling people racists from any side.
Because he is a Tory MEP. Same as this woman is described as being part of the Student Union! Are you the god given defender of the Tories or something? I criticised the subject of this thread and have criticised anybody calling people racists from any side.
No, I'm not, but I look forward to your outrage next time people on the other side of the fence are wrongly labelled a Nazi or racist
You will get it - people being unfairly labelled is disgusting. I said that student should be sacked if you checked my posts. Still waiting for your outrage!
He was saying that socialists were similar to national socialists - Nazis, in front of the socialist group. Where offence was rightfully taken, was that many socialists lost their lives standing up to the nazis. My Italian Uncle was a socialist who risked his life, and lost friends fighting them during the war. You don't have to agree with their politics, but to label them the same thing they sacrificed all for is insulting and disgusting.
He was saying that socialists were similar to national socialists - Nazis, in front of the socialist group. Where offence was rightfully taken, was that many socialists lost their lives standing up to the nazis. My Italian Uncle was a socialist who risked his life, and lost friends fighting them during the war. You don't have to agree with their politics, but to label them the same thing they sacrificed all for is insulting and disgusting.
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I doubt it
She’s attention seeking and virtual signalling
Going off on a slight tangent but Radio Four just had a feature on words like Gammon (sic) and Snowflake (sic).
Out of interest, what did she say?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/syed-kamall-nazi-remark-shameful-german-socialist-leader-udo-bullmann
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-46274283