Sunderland Til I Die - Netflix

paulie8290

The other issue with britbox is how you watch it, unlike things like Netflix and Amazon there is no app, its not available on smart tvs or PS4s unless u can via the web browser, which is easy enough to do but will also put people off, dunno why they didn't just release an app

JiMMy 85

Good point, Paulie. Presumably they will eventually. No doubt they’d have more than 300k subs or whatever it is if we saw an app on every device. I’ve not seen their. Intent selection but I’d assume it’s huge?

Leeds_Addick

JiMMy 85 said:

Meanwhile, sadly for BBC and ITV, BritBox isn’t doing so well. The churn on customers who took the free trial is huge and that’s quite telling. 

There’s no doubt that Netflix have helped change the landscape, but without the catalogue of content that Disney can boast, they‘ve got no choice but to spend big in order to catch up. They can’t rely on second hand studio content, especially if the studios pull that content. Which is what Sky Movies are facing next year. My bet is that in 12-18 Months’ time, Sky Movies and Sky Boxsets will be one thing. 

I don't really understand Britbox. I initially thought it would be a huge back catalogue of everything BBC & ITV have ever produced. I thought that Channel 4 being on board meant there'd be masses of comedy shows on there which otherwise are pretty hard to find online (I'm looking at you, Phoenix Nights) but now it seems that's not the case and instead it's just a compilation of everything currently on iPlayer and ITV Hub. Maybe I have it wrong though as I've not used it yet.

When I was a student I used https://learningonscreen.ac.uk/ondemand to watch old terrestrial stuff all the time. I'd certainly pay for that if I could.

paulie8290

Leeds_Addick said:

JiMMy 85 said:

Meanwhile, sadly for BBC and ITV, BritBox isn’t doing so well. The churn on customers who took the free trial is huge and that’s quite telling. 

There’s no doubt that Netflix have helped change the landscape, but without the catalogue of content that Disney can boast, they‘ve got no choice but to spend big in order to catch up. They can’t rely on second hand studio content, especially if the studios pull that content. Which is what Sky Movies are facing next year. My bet is that in 12-18 Months’ time, Sky Movies and Sky Boxsets will be one thing. 

I don't really understand Britbox. I initially thought it would be a huge back catalogue of everything BBC & ITV have ever produced. I thought that Channel 4 being on board meant there'd be masses of comedy shows on there which otherwise are pretty hard to find online (I'm looking at you, Phoenix Nights) but now it seems that's not the case and instead it's just a compilation of everything currently on iPlayer and ITV Hub. Maybe I have it wrong though as I've not used it yet.

When I was a student I used https://learningonscreen.ac.uk/ondemand to watch old terrestrial stuff all the time. I'd certainly pay for that if I could.

There are some stuff not available elsewhere.

I have rewatched Hustle, been trying to find somewhere to watch it again for ages but it was not on Iplayer, and was nowhere else, I rewatched it during my 30 day free trial with britbox 

Croydon

Henry Irving said:

Hunters is great.

Netflix is loss making I hear so maybe they need to up their game.

Off topic, but is Hunters worth a watch then HI?

Henry Irving

I think so but Jews killing Nazis is always gonna be my thing.

It has some great 70s fashion and 70s soundtrack.

There's a bit of a comic book/US 70s TV pastiche to some of it but well produced and lots of plot lines running in parallel.

MartinCAFC

Leeds_Addick said:

JiMMy 85 said:

Meanwhile, sadly for BBC and ITV, BritBox isn’t doing so well. The churn on customers who took the free trial is huge and that’s quite telling. 

There’s no doubt that Netflix have helped change the landscape, but without the catalogue of content that Disney can boast, they‘ve got no choice but to spend big in order to catch up. They can’t rely on second hand studio content, especially if the studios pull that content. Which is what Sky Movies are facing next year. My bet is that in 12-18 Months’ time, Sky Movies and Sky Boxsets will be one thing. 

I don't really understand Britbox. I initially thought it would be a huge back catalogue of everything BBC & ITV have ever produced. I thought that Channel 4 being on board meant there'd be masses of comedy shows on there which otherwise are pretty hard to find online (I'm looking at you, Phoenix Nights) but now it seems that's not the case and instead it's just a compilation of everything currently on iPlayer and ITV Hub. Maybe I have it wrong though as I've not used it yet.

When I was a student I used https://learningonscreen.ac.uk/ondemand to watch old terrestrial stuff all the time. I'd certainly pay for that if I could.

Britbox should be free for TV license holders anyway given it's content we've already paid to watch.

At least Netflix has new content not yet seen or paid for.

Huskaris

No need for Britbox with the BBC, most of it is reruns anyway, just wait long enough and you'll no doubt see your favourite episode of Homes Under the Hammer again. 

Stu_of_Kunming

PragueAddick said:

JiMMy 85 said:

They’re very guarded about their content plans and stats. They see no reason to be transparent about anything! 

They don’t hype up releases for months in advance, they tend to just drop it in there and promote it within the app because they know you’ll open it anyway. It’s only because there are supporters or journos with a vested interest in Sunderland that there’s any info out there at all on this one. They may delay stuff a lot, we wouldn’t know! I certainly don’t agree it’s poor to not set a release date. It’s their show, they’ll release it when they’re ready. 

Ah, but they have allowed it to be "out there" that the new series would/should drop in February. I believe the producers said this. There were links to articles quoting them on here, I will try to find them. I guess also the producers don't get paid -fully- until the show airs. The question being asked (and it may just be an amusing conspiracy theory) is whether they will release it when Sunderland are ready.

I just joined Netflix more or less by accident because I got a new TV where it was all heavily programmed in (Netflix button on the remote, etc). My 30 day trial ends 3 Mar. I planned to keep going , and expecting Sunderland to drop by now was one reason. The other one was to watch "Occupied S3" but for some reason it wasn't made available on Czech Netflix, so I had to end up watching it via my VPN on the laptop, despite being a subscriber. 90% of what they are offering me is US stuff which I have no interest in. I might as well tell them where to shove their subscription and download series 2 of Sunderland illegally, as I did with series 1. Which is also unfair on the creators and producers of the show. 

I thought Netflix was supposed to be this ultra-cool and consumer friendly company?

Netflix is by the best online subscription option around, imo. The fact that you can even use a VPN to access their different content shows how cool and consumer friendly they are, of course production companies don't want them to allow it, which is exactly why they pretend to try and stop VPN usage.

The reality, as you know from trying to use iPlayer is that if they wanted to stop it, they could, however they'd lose a lot of customers, so don't.

Stewart

Looking forward to this, but I somehow think it won’t be as enjoyable, if, when released we are in the relegation zone.

AFKABartram

Stewart said:

Looking forward to this, but I somehow think it won’t be as enjoyable, if, when released we are in the relegation zone.

Yeah, the balloon’s been pricked a bit, hasn’t it?

Henry Irving

I didn't want to say that when we beat Sunderland in the 98 play- off we started well but went down while Sunderland got promoted.

seth plum

Netflix does not have overt adverts, like the BBC, so in that regard it is good.

carly burn

I'm currently working my way through All or nothing: the Man city docu-series on prime.

I haven't a clue what old Pep is saying during his impassioned team talks, but it sounds good!

JiMMy 85

I was trying to watch All or Nothing for research purposes but couldn’t get through it. I think it was directed by Leni Riefenstahl. 

charlton_hero

We did some work on this show and as far as I'm aware a start date still hasn't been locked in. 

JiMMy 85

Oh cool, what work did you do?

PragueAddick

Stu_of_Kunming said:

PragueAddick said:

JiMMy 85 said:

They’re very guarded about their content plans and stats. They see no reason to be transparent about anything! 

They don’t hype up releases for months in advance, they tend to just drop it in there and promote it within the app because they know you’ll open it anyway. It’s only because there are supporters or journos with a vested interest in Sunderland that there’s any info out there at all on this one. They may delay stuff a lot, we wouldn’t know! I certainly don’t agree it’s poor to not set a release date. It’s their show, they’ll release it when they’re ready. 

Ah, but they have allowed it to be "out there" that the new series would/should drop in February. I believe the producers said this. There were links to articles quoting them on here, I will try to find them. I guess also the producers don't get paid -fully- until the show airs. The question being asked (and it may just be an amusing conspiracy theory) is whether they will release it when Sunderland are ready.

I just joined Netflix more or less by accident because I got a new TV where it was all heavily programmed in (Netflix button on the remote, etc). My 30 day trial ends 3 Mar. I planned to keep going , and expecting Sunderland to drop by now was one reason. The other one was to watch "Occupied S3" but for some reason it wasn't made available on Czech Netflix, so I had to end up watching it via my VPN on the laptop, despite being a subscriber. 90% of what they are offering me is US stuff which I have no interest in. I might as well tell them where to shove their subscription and download series 2 of Sunderland illegally, as I did with series 1. Which is also unfair on the creators and producers of the show. 

I thought Netflix was supposed to be this ultra-cool and consumer friendly company?

Netflix is by the best online subscription option around, imo. The fact that you can even use a VPN to access their different content shows how cool and consumer friendly they are, of course production companies don't want them to allow it, which is exactly why they pretend to try and stop VPN usage.

The reality, as you know from trying to use iPlayer is that if they wanted to stop it, they could, however they'd lose a lot of customers, so don't.

I do have some trouble with Netflix and the VPN. But if I close the browser and restart the WiFi that seems to fix it. Is that what you mean..like a half-hearted effort at blocking? 

Anyway, has anyone heard anything more about "Sunderland"?

charlton_hero

JiMMy 85 said:

Oh cool, what work did you do?

Music clearance

PragueAddick

I just asked Netflix Help about Sunderland and they have no realease date they were prepared to offer me. 

Henry Irving

Netflix have an 1880s football drama written by Julien Fellows out this month.

Unlikely to be any Charlton content.

North Lower Neil

Henry Irving said:

Netflix have an 1880s football drama written by Julien Fellows out this month.

Unlikely to be any Charlton content.

Terrible, always left out, big club bias etc etc

Huskaris

Just finished season one in anticipation of season two. 

Jonny Williams comes across really well, I felt like I wanted to just give him a hug a few times. Seems like a fragile guy, so glad he is so highly regarded at Charlton, must mean a huge amount to him. 

Scoham

Henry Irving said:

Netflix have an 1880s football drama written by Julien Fellows out this month.

Unlikely to be any Charlton content.

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/on-demand/2020-03-03/the-english-game-release/

https://www.bt.com/tv/drama/the-english-game-julian-fellowes-netflix-football-drama

allez les addicks

carly burn said:

I'm currently working my way through All or nothing: the Man city docu-series on prime.

I haven't a clue what old Pep is saying during his impassioned team talks, but it sounds good!

Found the Man City one a bit boring and propaganda like. I’m enjoying the Brazil national team one which followed them through the Copa América last year (though I’m biased as I was out there watching it). Least that’s all in Portuguese so you have subtitles anyway. But it deals with things like Neymar’s rape allegation in a way which the Man City one wouldn’t even mention it!

still looking forward to s2 of Sunderland. Our involvement was always a bonus for me - I just thought the first series was brilliant anyway 

se9addick

allez les addicks said:

carly burn said:

I'm currently working my way through All or nothing: the Man city docu-series on prime.

I haven't a clue what old Pep is saying during his impassioned team talks, but it sounds good!

Found the Man City one a bit boring and propaganda like. I’m enjoying the Brazil national team one which followed them through the Copa América last year (though I’m biased as I was out t Least that’s all in Portuguese so you have subtitles anyway. But it deals with things like Neymar’s rape allegation in a way which the Man City one wouldn’t even mention it!

still looking forward to s2 of Sunderland. Our involvement was always a bonus for me - I just thought the first series was brilliant anyway 

That sounds interesting, is it also an All or Nothing series?

JiMMy 85

Yeah there’s a bunch of All or Nothings, across different sports now too. I’ve not tried them cos of how lazy the City one was. 

allez les addicks

se9addick said:

allez les addicks said:

carly burn said:

I'm currently working my way through All or nothing: the Man city docu-series on prime.

I haven't a clue what old Pep is saying during his impassioned team talks, but it sounds good!

Found the Man City one a bit boring and propaganda like. I’m enjoying the Brazil national team one which followed them through the Copa América last year (though I’m biased as I was out t Least that’s all in Portuguese so you have subtitles anyway. But it deals with things like Neymar’s rape allegation in a way which the Man City one wouldn’t even mention it!

still looking forward to s2 of Sunderland. Our involvement was always a bonus for me - I just thought the first series was brilliant anyway 

That sounds interesting, is it also an All or Nothing series?

Yes. On prime - https://www.amazon.co.uk/All-Nothing-Brazil-National-Team/dp/B0847KTZR4/ref=nodl_

cantersaddick

Huskaris said:

Just finished season one in anticipation of season two. 

Jonny Williams comes across really well, I felt like I wanted to just give him a hug a few times. Seems like a fragile guy, so glad he is so highly regarded at Charlton, must mean a huge amount to him. 

McGeady comes across less well. Openly critical of Colemns methods and man management etc.

se9addick

JiMMy 85 said:

Yeah there’s a bunch of All or Nothings, across different sports now too. I’ve not tried them cos of how lazy the City one was. 

I’m not sure All or Nothing works as well in the sanitised world of a Premier League team in a season where they sweep all before them. You need some adversity, characters and drama. 

The NFL series’ (including Hard Knocks) work well because NFL players seem a little more entertaining, you have the drama of about 50% of the squad getting cut before the season starts and then the ongoing impunity with which NFL teams can sack their players even when they’re under contract compared to football where it’s not really possible save for some sort of unlikely gross misconduct situation.