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There appears to be no point playing any games, as their league position is determined by their average attendance.Raith_C_Chattonell said:Celtic is a big game, that's a given. But seriously? Aside from maybe Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen the rest are tiny clubs. That's half the season spent crushing minnows. How rewarding is that?Scottish Premiership cumulative attendances Total home crowd Average home crowd Celtic 1,095,229 57,644 Rangers 941,720 49,564 Hibernian 337,724 17,775 Hearts 333,724 17,564 Aberdeen 283,567 14,925 Kilmarnock 130,999 6,895 Dundee 114,509 6,027 Motherwell 103,512 5,448 St Mirren 101,680 5,352 St Johnstone 73,937 3,891 Livingston 69,616 3,664 Hamilton Acad 53,760 2,829
Scottish Championship cumulative attendanceTotal home crowd Average home crowd Dundee United 91,415 5,078 Dunfermline 90,153 5,008 Falkirk 85,361 4,742 Ross County 70,092 3,894 Partick Thistle 54,771 3,042 Inverness CT 45,864 2,548 Ayr United 39,016 2,168 Morton 35,065 1,948 Queen of the South 29,799 1,656 Alloa Athletic 21,215 1,179 Scottish League One cumulative attendances Total home crowd Average home crowd Raith Rovers 28,059 1,559 Arbroath 17,392 966 Montrose 14,238 791 Airdrieonians 13,743 764 East Fife 12,565 698 Forfar Athletic 11,976 665 Dumbarton 11,194 622 Brechin City 10,457 581 Stenhousemuir 10,286 571 Stranraer 6,108 339
Scottish League Two cumulative attendancesTotal home crowd Average home crowd Peterhead 12,021 668 Clyde 11,485 638 Elgin City 11,211 623 Queen's Park 11,001 611 Stirling Albion 10,583 588 Berwick Rangers 8,599 478 Edinburgh City 7,223 401 Annan Athletic 7,168 398 Cowdenbeath 6,384 355 Albion Rovers 5,151 286 6 -
Crazy that Celtic get more fans for 1 game than Hamilton do all season!5
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They don’t average 58,000.ElfsborgAddick said:
Like Newcastle........NapaAddick said:Pelling1993 said:Its very enjoyable how deluded Rangers & Celtic are, neither would get promoted from championship and I think Rangers would be in relegation troubleCould be right about Rangers. But Celtic would be up by the second year, easy.Their gigantic attendances would lead to large matchday income advantages.Being in English football, they would attract more bigger-money sponsors right away.Celtic is a bigger club than ANY club in the Championship globally (except maybe Leeds) and good players would die to play there. Within two transfer windows they would have the best team in the division by a landslide.Once in the PL, this dynamic would get even bigger. I think in time they would be top 7 regularly. Just like every other club that averages 58,000+ per match.0 -
You guys need to move on. Rangers are much bigger than Charlton and he is making much more money there, is probably happier there, is winning, and within 1-2 years will be sold at a huge profit and likely play in the PL. He does not miss us. Time for you guys to deal with it and stop making some bizarre fetish over his decision.8
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In terms of size of club and fanbase you are correct.AllysArmy said:
So powerful you cannot compete with Rangers or Celtic for wages, you cannot enter European competitions. You are limited for being in such a “powerful” league. A league that wasn’t deemed worthy of a cap for Aribo. Funny that.SoundAsa£ said:
Just to put you right here re The Championship, it is rated as the seventh most highly rated/powerful league in world football.AllysArmy said:
Rangers fan here. Can confirm we do rate him, he’s one of our better midfielders if a little raw. We play Thursday-Sunday and did last year. Our squad was stretched. We have plenty of very good midfielders which allows us to use our squad depth, and is something Gerrard has done and will continue to do.Bedsaddick said:
Rangers fans don’t rate him . It’s a very bad move in my opinion.Athletico Charlton said:One of their 5 relevant games this season and he played 7 minutes. Thought he was a PL player in the making for us, I hope his move to Scotland does not become a failure.Side note, since bowyer said this was a bad move for him - he’s been called up and beat Feyenoord in the Europa league, and already scored a couple in the qualifiers. He will move on to an English side for £10m+ In the future if he continues the way he has. He still has lots of learning to do. I cannot understand why so many Charlton fans are saying this is a bad move for him? You can bang on about opposition but outside 3 or 4 clubs in the championship, your league isn’t up to much either. On top of that he will be visiting Porto, Rotterdam and Bern for europa league matches. It’s a win-win. Cheap signing for us which has proven to be a great move this far, and a good platform for Aribo to try and get that move to a bigger league.Charlton to Rangers is a step up, a big one at that. No offence to you and i’m sure Charlton is a great club with great traditions etc but you aren’t even on the same level as Rangers or Celtic.
As regards the quality of football then you are sadly mistaken.
Celtic and Rangers I feel would struggle badly in the Premier League. Aberdeen and Hearts might survive in the Championship. The rest are League 1 material.1 -
Over half your statement isn’t quite right though.NapaAddick said:You guys need to move on. Rangers are much bigger than Charlton and he is making much more money there, is probably happier there, is winning, and within 1-2 years will be sold at a huge profit and likely play in the PL. He does not miss us. Time for you guys to deal with it and stop making some bizarre fetish over his decision.
Yes, Rangers are a bigger club and Aribo is being paid higher wages.
Not sure how you can see he’s probably happier due to this. Also, Aribo was already winning with us, so not like being at Rangers is his first taste of winning games. Aribo staying with us for 1-2 years would also have seen him sold for a large fee and to a PL team.9 -
Never understand why people say this.ElfsborgAddick said:
In terms of size of club and fanbase you are correct.AllysArmy said:
So powerful you cannot compete with Rangers or Celtic for wages, you cannot enter European competitions. You are limited for being in such a “powerful” league. A league that wasn’t deemed worthy of a cap for Aribo. Funny that.SoundAsa£ said:
Just to put you right here re The Championship, it is rated as the seventh most highly rated/powerful league in world football.AllysArmy said:
Rangers fan here. Can confirm we do rate him, he’s one of our better midfielders if a little raw. We play Thursday-Sunday and did last year. Our squad was stretched. We have plenty of very good midfielders which allows us to use our squad depth, and is something Gerrard has done and will continue to do.Bedsaddick said:
Rangers fans don’t rate him . It’s a very bad move in my opinion.Athletico Charlton said:One of their 5 relevant games this season and he played 7 minutes. Thought he was a PL player in the making for us, I hope his move to Scotland does not become a failure.Side note, since bowyer said this was a bad move for him - he’s been called up and beat Feyenoord in the Europa league, and already scored a couple in the qualifiers. He will move on to an English side for £10m+ In the future if he continues the way he has. He still has lots of learning to do. I cannot understand why so many Charlton fans are saying this is a bad move for him? You can bang on about opposition but outside 3 or 4 clubs in the championship, your league isn’t up to much either. On top of that he will be visiting Porto, Rotterdam and Bern for europa league matches. It’s a win-win. Cheap signing for us which has proven to be a great move this far, and a good platform for Aribo to try and get that move to a bigger league.Charlton to Rangers is a step up, a big one at that. No offence to you and i’m sure Charlton is a great club with great traditions etc but you aren’t even on the same level as Rangers or Celtic.
As regards the quality of football then you are sadly mistaken.
Celtic and Rangers I feel would struggle badly in the Premier League. Aberdeen and Hearts might survive in the Championship. The rest are League 1 material.
Yes their current sides would obviously struggle in the premier league, and perhaps wouldn't even get promoted out of the championship.
But put both those sides in the premier league with 150m income every season, added to their fanbases and both sides would soon be well established PL clubs.4 -
Financially, many times more rewarding than staying here playing and losing at glamorous places like Wigan.Raith_C_Chattonell said:Celtic is a big game, that's a given. But seriously? Aside from maybe Hibs, Hearts and Aberdeen the rest are tiny clubs. That's half the season spent crushing minnows. How rewarding is that?Scottish Premiership cumulative attendances Total home crowd Average home crowd Celtic 1,095,229 57,644 Rangers 941,720 49,564 Hibernian 337,724 17,775 Hearts 333,724 17,564 Aberdeen 283,567 14,925 Kilmarnock 130,999 6,895 Dundee 114,509 6,027 Motherwell 103,512 5,448 St Mirren 101,680 5,352 St Johnstone 73,937 3,891 Livingston 69,616 3,664 Hamilton Acad 53,760 2,829
Scottish Championship cumulative attendanceTotal home crowd Average home crowd Dundee United 91,415 5,078 Dunfermline 90,153 5,008 Falkirk 85,361 4,742 Ross County 70,092 3,894 Partick Thistle 54,771 3,042 Inverness CT 45,864 2,548 Ayr United 39,016 2,168 Morton 35,065 1,948 Queen of the South 29,799 1,656 Alloa Athletic 21,215 1,179 Scottish League One cumulative attendances Total home crowd Average home crowd Raith Rovers 28,059 1,559 Arbroath 17,392 966 Montrose 14,238 791 Airdrieonians 13,743 764 East Fife 12,565 698 Forfar Athletic 11,976 665 Dumbarton 11,194 622 Brechin City 10,457 581 Stenhousemuir 10,286 571 Stranraer 6,108 339
Scottish League Two cumulative attendancesTotal home crowd Average home crowd Peterhead 12,021 668 Clyde 11,485 638 Elgin City 11,211 623 Queen's Park 11,001 611 Stirling Albion 10,583 588 Berwick Rangers 8,599 478 Edinburgh City 7,223 401 Annan Athletic 7,168 398 Cowdenbeath 6,384 355 Albion Rovers 5,151 286 1 -
So would we...with a few less on the fan base (to start with)Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Never understand why people say this.ElfsborgAddick said:
In terms of size of club and fanbase you are correct.AllysArmy said:
So powerful you cannot compete with Rangers or Celtic for wages, you cannot enter European competitions. You are limited for being in such a “powerful” league. A league that wasn’t deemed worthy of a cap for Aribo. Funny that.SoundAsa£ said:
Just to put you right here re The Championship, it is rated as the seventh most highly rated/powerful league in world football.AllysArmy said:
Rangers fan here. Can confirm we do rate him, he’s one of our better midfielders if a little raw. We play Thursday-Sunday and did last year. Our squad was stretched. We have plenty of very good midfielders which allows us to use our squad depth, and is something Gerrard has done and will continue to do.Bedsaddick said:
Rangers fans don’t rate him . It’s a very bad move in my opinion.Athletico Charlton said:One of their 5 relevant games this season and he played 7 minutes. Thought he was a PL player in the making for us, I hope his move to Scotland does not become a failure.Side note, since bowyer said this was a bad move for him - he’s been called up and beat Feyenoord in the Europa league, and already scored a couple in the qualifiers. He will move on to an English side for £10m+ In the future if he continues the way he has. He still has lots of learning to do. I cannot understand why so many Charlton fans are saying this is a bad move for him? You can bang on about opposition but outside 3 or 4 clubs in the championship, your league isn’t up to much either. On top of that he will be visiting Porto, Rotterdam and Bern for europa league matches. It’s a win-win. Cheap signing for us which has proven to be a great move this far, and a good platform for Aribo to try and get that move to a bigger league.Charlton to Rangers is a step up, a big one at that. No offence to you and i’m sure Charlton is a great club with great traditions etc but you aren’t even on the same level as Rangers or Celtic.
As regards the quality of football then you are sadly mistaken.
Celtic and Rangers I feel would struggle badly in the Premier League. Aberdeen and Hearts might survive in the Championship. The rest are League 1 material.
Yes their current sides would obviously struggle in the premier league, and perhaps wouldn't even get promoted out of the championship.
But put both those sides in the premier league with 150m income every season, added to their fanbases and both sides would soon be well established PL clubs.0 -
Subbed after 22-minutes today...was he struggling against the mighty Livingston? Or overawed by how many spectators at the ground?0
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Well no obviously he was injured.Fumbluff said:Subbed after 22-minutes today...was he struggling against the mighty Livingston? Or overawed by how many spectators at the ground?
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Sorry paulie, forgot you had the monopoly xxpaulie8290 said:
Well no obviously he was injured.Fumbluff said:Subbed after 22-minutes today...was he struggling against the mighty Livingston? Or overawed by how many spectators at the ground?
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You would think a much bigger club should be required to pay much better compensation than the pathetic amount they have done.NapaAddick said:You guys need to move on. Rangers are much bigger than Charlton and he is making much more money there, is probably happier there, is winning, and within 1-2 years will be sold at a huge profit and likely play in the PL. He does not miss us. Time for you guys to deal with it and stop making some bizarre fetish over his decision.
Bigger clubs poncing off other clubs is ruining clubs across Britain.0 -
20' Joe Aribo is receiving treatment after an elbow as he attempts to head the ball. | 0-1
22' SUB: Steven Davis comes on to replace Joe Aribo who is back on his feet and able to walk off the field after treatment | 0-1
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How crap can it be up there when 60 odd year old snooker players still get a gameross1 said:20' Joe Aribo is receiving treatment after an elbow as he attempts to head the ball. | 0-1
22' SUB: Steven Davis comes on to replace Joe Aribo who is back on his feet and able to walk off the field after treatment | 0-19 -
Ended up as Man of the Match.oohaahmortimer said:
How crap can it be up there when 60 odd year old snooker players still get a gameross1 said:20' Joe Aribo is receiving treatment after an elbow as he attempts to head the ball. | 0-1
22' SUB: Steven Davis comes on to replace Joe Aribo who is back on his feet and able to walk off the field after treatment | 0-10 -
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Not for the first time - he played for them a few weeks ago and scored.0
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Looks like he’s going to be out for a while. He received 20 stitches when he came off against Aberdeen.0
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Aribo scores V Brazil. Looks like he made the wrong decision to go to scotland
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Cross border Compo is capped. As if a clubs going to pay more than they have to?Redrobo said:
You would think a much bigger club should be required to pay much better compensation than the pathetic amount they have done.NapaAddick said:You guys need to move on. Rangers are much bigger than Charlton and he is making much more money there, is probably happier there, is winning, and within 1-2 years will be sold at a huge profit and likely play in the PL. He does not miss us. Time for you guys to deal with it and stop making some bizarre fetish over his decision.
Bigger clubs poncing off other clubs is ruining clubs across Britain.0 -
Since joining “two-bob” Rangers, He’s beet Feyenoord in Europe, 2 caps for Nigeria, 2 goals for nigeria and is now top of the league.Swisdom said:
I’m not convinced Two-Bob Rangers have done anything to his game that led to the goalAllysArmy said:Aribo scores V Brazil. Looks like he made the wrong decision to go to scotlandLearn from Lee Bowyer or learn from Steven Gerrard...Two bob right enough, he could be sitting 10th in the championship.1 -
Rather be in the Championship tbh.AllysArmy said:
Since joining “two-bob” Rangers, He’s beet Feyenoord in Europe, 2 caps for Nigeria, 2 goals for nigeria and is now top of the league.Swisdom said:
I’m not convinced Two-Bob Rangers have done anything to his game that led to the goalAllysArmy said:Aribo scores V Brazil. Looks like he made the wrong decision to go to scotlandLearn from Lee Bowyer or learn from Steven Gerrard...Two bob right enough, he could be sitting 10th in the championship.8 -
Hello @AllysArmyAllysArmy said:
Since joining “two-bob” Rangers, He’s beet Feyenoord in Europe, 2 caps for Nigeria, 2 goals for nigeria and is now top of the league.Swisdom said:
I’m not convinced Two-Bob Rangers have done anything to his game that led to the goalAllysArmy said:Aribo scores V Brazil. Looks like he made the wrong decision to go to scotlandLearn from Lee Bowyer or learn from Steven Gerrard...Two bob right enough, he could be sitting 10th in the championship.
I am sure Bowyer does not dispute that in terms of history and crowd size Rangers is a far bigger club than Charlton. No sane person could dispute that. I think his concern is more about the rest of the league apart from Celtic.
It was also about the alternative, he would have been bought by a good Championship side such as Derby or Forest. So each week he would be playing against much better teams than most of your opposition. Of course the irony is that it would have been true had he stayed but then we get to our cretinous owner as well as the malign influence of agents.
But European football is a plus. Unlike some here I don't diss the Europa League, that's a great opportunity for someone who was in League One last season.
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I take on board the point about opposition - however it’s often spoken on here, and other message boards, like your league is filled with Derby’s and Forest’s.PragueAddick said:
Hello @AllysArmyAllysArmy said:
Since joining “two-bob” Rangers, He’s beet Feyenoord in Europe, 2 caps for Nigeria, 2 goals for nigeria and is now top of the league.Swisdom said:
I’m not convinced Two-Bob Rangers have done anything to his game that led to the goalAllysArmy said:Aribo scores V Brazil. Looks like he made the wrong decision to go to scotlandLearn from Lee Bowyer or learn from Steven Gerrard...Two bob right enough, he could be sitting 10th in the championship.
I am sure Bowyer does not dispute that in terms of history and crowd size Rangers is a far bigger club than Charlton. No sane person could dispute that. I think his concern is more about the rest of the league apart from Celtic.
It was also about the alternative, he would have been bought by a good Championship side such as Derby or Forest. So each week he would be playing against much better teams than most of your opposition. Of course the irony is that it would have been true had he stayed but then we get to our cretinous owner as well as the malign influence of agents.
But European football is a plus. Unlike some here I don't diss the Europa League, that's a great opportunity for someone who was in League One last season.We both know that’s not true. We both also know Joe Aribo will most likely go straight to the premiership from us. The best fullback in England came from Scottish 3rd division. Arsenal have just paid 25m for another Scottish fullback. There is quality here.Rangers or Celtic is a good platform for any player to show their worth, even players from the championship.0 -
Too right.Laddick01 said:
Rather be in the Championship tbh.AllysArmy said:
Since joining “two-bob” Rangers, He’s beet Feyenoord in Europe, 2 caps for Nigeria, 2 goals for nigeria and is now top of the league.Swisdom said:
I’m not convinced Two-Bob Rangers have done anything to his game that led to the goalAllysArmy said:Aribo scores V Brazil. Looks like he made the wrong decision to go to scotlandLearn from Lee Bowyer or learn from Steven Gerrard...Two bob right enough, he could be sitting 10th in the championship.
Feyenoord are not exactly a scalp, they’re average. The only reason why they got into the Europa League is because they had Van Persie scoring all their goals last season.
Aribo would still have been called up whether he was playing in the Championship or at Rangers. That argument is pointless. All you need to do look at how many call ups there are in the Championship to realise this.
100% learn from Lee Bowyer. That’s not bias, that’s because there has been a clear progression and development of players under Bowyer with no budget. Gerrard has spent money and has not shown any of the same coaching qualities or abilities in developing players as Bowyer has. Their record is also pretty much the same as well, and for a club like Rangers in the SPL in comparison to a club like Charlton in League One and then the Championship, it puts a good case forward that Bowyer is the better manager.
Being a better player doesn’t make you a better manager or coach. It’s being able to transfer that ability across to others.
Sitting top now, but won’t be at the end of the season.
Might be playing in Europe, but won’t be for long. Might be playing in front of more fans, but it’s still a step back in development and competitive standard in Scotland.5 -
Gerrard has shown no qualities in developing players?Sage said:
Too right.Laddick01 said:
Rather be in the Championship tbh.AllysArmy said:
Since joining “two-bob” Rangers, He’s beet Feyenoord in Europe, 2 caps for Nigeria, 2 goals for nigeria and is now top of the league.Swisdom said:
I’m not convinced Two-Bob Rangers have done anything to his game that led to the goalAllysArmy said:Aribo scores V Brazil. Looks like he made the wrong decision to go to scotlandLearn from Lee Bowyer or learn from Steven Gerrard...Two bob right enough, he could be sitting 10th in the championship.
Feyenoord are not exactly a scalp, they’re average. The only reason why they got into the Europa League is because they had Van Persie scoring all their goals last season.
Aribo would still have been called up whether he was playing in the Championship or at Rangers. That argument is pointless. All you need to do look at how many call ups there are in the Championship to realise this.
100% learn from Lee Bowyer. That’s not bias, that’s because there has been a clear progression and development of players under Bowyer with no budget. Gerrard has spent money and has not shown any of the same coaching qualities or abilities in developing players as Bowyer has. Their record is also pretty much the same as well, and for a club like Rangers in the SPL in comparison to a club like Charlton in League One and then the Championship, it puts a good case forward that Bowyer is the better manager.
Being a better player doesn’t make you a better manager or coach. It’s being able to transfer that ability across to others.
Sitting top now, but won’t be at the end of the season.
Might be playing in Europe, but won’t be for long. Might be playing in front of more fans, but it’s still a step back in development and competitive standard in Scotland.
he took a squad that got knocked out by progres neiderkorn of luxembourgh in r1 europa league qualifier, to the group stages the next season, and took it down to the last game to get out.THEN he spent money.He has taken Rangers to top of the league (properly) for the first time in what, 7 years?
We are now in a group with Porto, Young Boys and Feyenoord (could be a CL group, no?) which we will probably get out of.
so i kindly decline your notion that Gerrard is not a good manager, While LB languishes mid table in the championship, just suffered a narrow defeat to Welsh giants Swansea. You’re right Lee Bowyer all day2 -
Havent got involved in this arguement until i saw this comment, what makes u think you will probably get out of it, i would be surprised if you did.AllysArmy said:
Gerrard has shown no qualities in developing players?Sage said:
Too right.Laddick01 said:
Rather be in the Championship tbh.AllysArmy said:
Since joining “two-bob” Rangers, He’s beet Feyenoord in Europe, 2 caps for Nigeria, 2 goals for nigeria and is now top of the league.Swisdom said:
I’m not convinced Two-Bob Rangers have done anything to his game that led to the goalAllysArmy said:Aribo scores V Brazil. Looks like he made the wrong decision to go to scotlandLearn from Lee Bowyer or learn from Steven Gerrard...Two bob right enough, he could be sitting 10th in the championship.
Feyenoord are not exactly a scalp, they’re average. The only reason why they got into the Europa League is because they had Van Persie scoring all their goals last season.
Aribo would still have been called up whether he was playing in the Championship or at Rangers. That argument is pointless. All you need to do look at how many call ups there are in the Championship to realise this.
100% learn from Lee Bowyer. That’s not bias, that’s because there has been a clear progression and development of players under Bowyer with no budget. Gerrard has spent money and has not shown any of the same coaching qualities or abilities in developing players as Bowyer has. Their record is also pretty much the same as well, and for a club like Rangers in the SPL in comparison to a club like Charlton in League One and then the Championship, it puts a good case forward that Bowyer is the better manager.
Being a better player doesn’t make you a better manager or coach. It’s being able to transfer that ability across to others.
Sitting top now, but won’t be at the end of the season.
Might be playing in Europe, but won’t be for long. Might be playing in front of more fans, but it’s still a step back in development and competitive standard in Scotland.
he took a squad that got knocked out by progres neiderkorn of luxembourgh in r1 europa league qualifier, to the group stages the next season, and took it down to the last game to get out.THEN he spent money.He has taken Rangers to top of the league (properly) for the first time in what, 7 years?
We are now in a group with Porto, Young Boys and Feyenoord (could be a CL group, no?) which we will probably get out of.
so i kindly decline your notion that Gerrard is not a good manager, While LB languishes mid table in the championship, just suffered a narrow defeat to Welsh giants Swansea. You’re right Lee Bowyer all day
Lose twice to Porto
Lose in Holland
Maybe draw at home to Young Boys
FYI I prefer Rangers to Celtic always have so its nothing against you personally, just dont think u are ready just yet to challenge teams like Porto
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