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The Disappearance of Madeleine Mccann
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If the McCanns were from a different social background they would have been slaughtered in the press and funding for the case would have dried up much quicker.Baldybonce said:One thing that never seems to get mentioned about leaving children unattended is what if there was a fire? Or one of them decided to swallow a bit of lego or the the whole multitude of things children can do to harm themselves.
It's a tragic case that looks unlikely to be solved.3 -
I mean fair enough and I can see the logic in that (bringing out a book). I just find the whole thing proper oddi_b_b_o_r_g said:Not sure about Kate, but got a feeling Gerry has returned to work. I don't think they are profiteering from the fund or ever intended to
*edit* Also, Kate said that the reason she brought out a book was to boost the fund to find Maddie. Still some strange bits in it though, 're her and her husband's sex life and the bit already mentiine above1 -
I never forget when I was around 5 or 6 I woke up one evening and called for my mum. No answer. Went downstairs. She wasn't there.
I was beside myself. I screamed for her and she came running in. She'd popped to our next door neighbour to drop a parcel off. She was gone about 3or4 minutes but it ruined me. So much so that I still remember it now.
Being alone in your own house at that age was scary enough. Heaven knows what it's like for a young child in a strange place.21 -
I genuinely believe the Portuguese police didn't have the first idea who did it and decided that blaming the parents was the easiest option. And almost certainly there was pressure from the authorities to ensure the area couldn't be seen to be a haven for paedo's/child abductors/human trafficking gangs etc.Huskaris said:I think the real crime has been dragging that out for 8 episodes. I'm on #7 and so far what I've seen that's worthwhile could have been condensed into opening credits.
On a serious note, the Portugeuse police are either incompetent or disgusting, depending on if they believed the McCanns were genuinely behind it or if they wanted to try and fit them up to reduce pressure on them and tourism etc.
As for the media, both here and in Portugal, I know that in the show the UK media spend a lot of time pointing the finger at the Portugeuse media, but absolute scum. At least Calvin McKenzie more or less says as much and owns it.
With proper police and proper journalism, I don't think anywhere near as many people would think it was them. So many disgusting headlines.1 -
That is certainly true for us too. We take a view based on what we know, or what we think we know. But that is all it can be.0
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If her parents were involved in any way, and both knew about it, surely one of them would have cracked by now? It's got to be enormously difficult to carry on pretending for this long.
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Losing a child in any circumstances is unthinkable.
There was always something odd however about the way the parents went jogging during the search - as a father of 3 myself I think I’d struggle to stand up let alone run in those circumstances.5 -
Having the stress of your kid ODing is probably a decent excuse for a jog.newyorkaddick said:Losing a child in any circumstances is unthinkable.
There was always something odd however about the way the parents went jogging during the search - as a father of 3 myself I think I’d struggle to stand up let alone run in those circumstances.0 -
The night she went missing, they went to bednewyorkaddick said:Losing a child in any circumstances is unthinkable.
There was always something odd however about the way the parents went jogging during the search - as a father of 3 myself I think I’d struggle to stand up let alone run in those circumstances.0 -
I heard from various sources they didn't ring the police for an hour after she went missing and didn't go looking their selves till 6am. I would normally feel so sorry for any couple in this situation but they can't be a pair of numpties :Gerry is a heart surgeon and Kate a part time GP. Yet having seen the interviews they have done over many years I find it inconceivable that you wouldn't lock the door of the apartment knowing that Madeline had a history of waking up and getting out of bed. (That's if you were daft enough to leave 3 children under 4 in a room on their own)i_b_b_o_r_g said:
The night she went missing, they went to bednewyorkaddick said:Losing a child in any circumstances is unthinkable.
There was always something odd however about the way the parents went jogging during the search - as a father of 3 myself I think I’d struggle to stand up let alone run in those circumstances.
They are very strange parents who have turned the disappearance of their daughter into a soap opera.12 -
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Maybe they knew they weren't gonna be waking up for a while.soapboxsam said:
I heard from various sources they didn't ring the police for an hour after she went missing and didn't go looking their selves till 6am. I would normally feel so sorry for any couple in this situation but they can't be a pair of numpties :Gerry is a heart surgeon and Kate a part time GP. Yet having seen the interviews they have done over many years I find it inconceivable that you wouldn't lock the door of the apartment knowing that Madeline had a history of waking up and getting out of bed. (That's if you were daft enough to leave 3 children under 4 in a room on their own)i_b_b_o_r_g said:
The night she went missing, they went to bednewyorkaddick said:Losing a child in any circumstances is unthinkable.
There was always something odd however about the way the parents went jogging during the search - as a father of 3 myself I think I’d struggle to stand up let alone run in those circumstances.
They are very strange parents who have turned the disappearance of their daughter into a soap opera.0 -
Having just returned from a holiday, where we stayed in 'cabins' situated in the grounds and ate in a restaurant two minutes walk away, there is no way I would have left children unattended whilst we ate and this is where I really can't understand the MacCann's actions. Actually, the risk of abduction would not have been high on my list, but rather accidental harm. Children are so unpredictable and to leave a 4 albeit soon to be 5 year old and two 2 year olds alone was madness. What if the twins had woken and Madeline took them out of their cots/beds and decided to change their nappies, bathe them etc...
Having had small children from the 80s to the 2000s, I can honestly say we never left them unattended
The golden holiday rules for me were:
Not leaving them by themselves and to be honest I would not even have considered leaving them with a holiday babysitter, who would obviously be unknown to us.
and, when self catering not having a pool until they could all swim (and even then supervising).
I recently watched a programme about the so called Babes in the Wood 1986 murder in Brighton. The families of these young girls were badly let down. They were the antithesis of the McCanns' profile.
Low income families, not photogenic or articulate and once the killer was acquitted, forgotten for the main part. The years have obviously taken their toll and even though he was found guilty at a new trial in 2018, it was upsetting to say the least to hear the story.
I don't know who is responsible for Madeline's disappearance, but had I acted in the same way as her parents I don't know how I could live with myself because of my actions.8 -
finished the series last night, maintain an open view but they are guilty of neglect if nothing else as others have said had that been a single parent or even a couple on holiday in holiday in benidorm who had nipped next door for happy hour - would be a completely different story and they would be calling for them to be jailed would of also not got over 11 million pounds in funding. but as they are doctors they have been given better treatment than most.
you go out leaving doors unlocked - madeline was 4 so could easily get up and walk out?
you realise she is missing and your 1st reactions are - someones took her?
you then contact the british media?
just so much doesn't add up
the no traces of anything is what gets me as it is genuinely like she just dissapeared.5 -
my conclusion, based on a couple of documentaries & my knowledge of kids & life in general is that Madeleine woke up & not finding anyone around went outside to look for her parents,. I believe the door to the apartment that was left open led straight out onto the street & I reckon she wandered out onto the street & was either hit by a car or someone saw an opportunity & took her. If hit by a car the person probably panicked (drunk/uninured etc) and put her in the car & drove off. Next day hearing the news just dumped her somewhere miles away.
But I doubt we will never really know the truth.
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I seem to recall that was a theory behind Ben Needham's disappearance.golfaddick said:my conclusion, based on a couple of documentaries & my knowledge of kids & life in general is that Madeleine woke up & not finding anyone around went outside to look for her parents,. I believe the door to the apartment that was left open led straight out onto the street & I reckon she wandered out onto the street & was either hit by a car or someone saw an opportunity & took her. If hit by a car the person probably panicked (drunk/uninured etc) and put her in the car & drove off. Next day hearing the news just dumped her somewhere miles away.
But I doubt we will never really know the truth.
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see the Met have been given extra funding to continue their investigation. £11.75m and counting …...
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Good grief. I have just found myself agreeing with something Golfie posted.3
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Unless some amazing new evidence has come to light then this is unbelievable. Obviously a tragic incident but i can't see how they can justify spending this sort of money on one missing girl, when thousands go missing every year. Perhaps spend the money on the NHS or helping the homeless instead, not a girl who went missing 12 years ago!LargeAddick said:see the Met have been given extra funding to continue their investigation. £11.75m and counting …...13 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Unless some amazing new evidence has come to light then this is unbelievable. Obviously a tragic incident but i can't see how they can justify spending this sort of money on one missing girl, when thousands go missing every year. Perhaps spend the money on the NHS or helping the homeless instead, not a girl who went missing 12 years ago!LargeAddick said:see the Met have been given extra funding to continue their investigation. £11.75m and counting …...
Agreed or fund more police on our streets to combat the out of control knife crime.3 -
That poor little girl was a victim of parental neglect and let’s hope that’s all. The McCanns are in my opinion 100% culpable in Madeleines disappearance. To leave children alone in a strange environment and without adult supervision is unforgivable. Any parent as proved with the above posts wouldn’t even consider such neglect. I have no idea whether the McCanns are involved in any way further and I suspect not but what they allowed to happen sickens me.12
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It's been said before but middle class couple with numerous centres of influence to help them.
Every five minutes a child goes missing in the UK and 100,000 in total do so every year. A lot of these are runaways from care homes of which one in six ends up sleeping rough and one in 12 are hurt or harmed as a result.
I wonder what is spent on finding those who have been missing for more than a decade. Not £300,000 that's for sure.7 -
who on earth agrees more funding ?!?!
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How many PCs would £11.75m put on London's streets?0
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Don't ask Diane Abbott.Addickted said:How many PCs would £11.75m put on London's streets?20 -
Spread over ten or so years that would probably be about fifteen?Penfolds Perm said:
Don't ask Diane Abbott.Addickted said:How many PCs would £11.75m put on London's streets?
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There has to be something going on behind the scenes that is a credible lead that would enable them to get more funding but cannot be made public for whatever reason.
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exactly we can go on about shit cuts but also this ridiculous spending causes mass problems, they are a pair of highly qaulified doctors, in which the public must trust with there life had this been a single parent/parents in benidorm who nipped down the shops for fags or to grab some cans - the sun would be probably running a campaign to have her/them jailed.Addickted said:How many PCs would £11.75m put on London's streets?
we will never know the truth and i do not know what another year on the case is going to achieve.
regarding policeman - standard beat officers i would say around 50 per year.
in addition to the government money they have also spent a lot of money raised through book sales etc.1 -
Imagine if the family were black or Muslims!blackpool72 said:Thousands of kids go missing every year.
Every child is as important as the next.
Why we have spent tens of millions on this one case (as sad as it is ) and others never get a mention I do not know.
Had this been a working class couple from a council estate it would barely make the news but because they are educated doctors it is seen in a different way.
RIP the little girl as I as sure she died years ago.0 -
Friend Or Defoe said:
Imagine if the family were black or Muslims!blackpool72 said:Thousands of kids go missing every year.
Every child is as important as the next.
Why we have spent tens of millions on this one case (as sad as it is ) and others never get a mention I do not know.
Had this been a working class couple from a council estate it would barely make the news but because they are educated doctors it is seen in a different way.
RIP the little girl as I as sure she died years ago.
If they were muslims, they wouldn't have been out on the piss15 -
You can be working class and black/Muslim. I think they were covered in the bold sentence.Friend Or Defoe said:
Imagine if the family were black or Muslims!blackpool72 said:Thousands of kids go missing every year.
Every child is as important as the next.
Why we have spent tens of millions on this one case (as sad as it is ) and others never get a mention I do not know.
Had this been a working class couple from a council estate it would barely make the news but because they are educated doctors it is seen in a different way.
RIP the little girl as I as sure she died years ago.0
