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Why has Bowyer not been signed up yet?

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  • If you are trying to sell a club you'll know the new owners will factor in the manager's contract as a liability.

    If new owners want their own man then they will have to pay off the incumbent manager's contract....maybe prospective owners are trying to factor this into negotiations to reduce costs.

    Alternatively anything that is offered by the current owner to Bowyer will come out of the agreed price (assuming prices have been agreed and this element hadn't been factored in by the price setter when it was set) and therefore reduce the "profit"/ increase the loss when the sale is made.

    From a football perspective the owner has no concern as to whether a good manager is in place or not as he's made it palpably clear he wants out/ has no interest in us despite seemingly doing everything possible, intentionally or otherwise, to protract that exit.

    Therefore perhaps it is just down to every penny more that Bowyer receives is either a penny less Duchatelet receives in the sale hence the draw out negotiations.  

    He's possibly realised that the backlash from fans, players (assets) refusing to sign renewal contracts etc would significantly reduce the selling price so he needs to play the game and keep Bowyer interested so as to not have him walk and substantially reduce the short term value of the club which no buyer would pass up as a chance to reduce the offer price (even if they full well intended to place their own man in on day one and this actually saves them paying off the contract and more importantly alienating the entire fanbase on arrival).

    He is leveraging the emotional link that Bowyer may have with the club and fanbase, which may have been emphasised in the magic of the past month, and exploiting that in the knowledge that he's not dealing with a manager who doesn't have a 2 way connection with fans and could just walk away more flippantly.

    It is a truly odd situation that you have an outgoing owner responsible (on the face of it at least) for negotiating the manager's contract whilst trying to also negotiate a sale as it is counter intuitive and I would imagine rarely occurs in wider business let alone football.

    But nothing has ever been simple, transparent and not convoluted with this clown.


  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    How the fk do we expect this bloke to sell a football club when he can’t even agree a contract with a brilliant young manager. 
  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse Posts: 2,542
    On a positive note we are now taking up 3% of Rolands time with the Bowyer negotiations. Onwards and upwards.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    edited June 2019
    se9addick said:
    June 7 was the deadline for extending his deal. LB allowed a week's extension to that.
    That's from Richard Cawley.
    Right but if, miraculously, Bowyer is offered his dream deal by Charlton on the 15th, 16th or 17th and hasn’t been offered better elsewhere do you think he’ll turn it down due to some arbitrary deadline? 
    Definitely not, i think he genuinely want's to stay at Charlton but feels he's getting messed about, by the sounds of things he just wants to get on with managing us with his staff.
    .
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    My gut feeling based on nothing but my own intuition is he will sign , relax everyone 
    Ah, yes and Sunderland were going to win the play-off final, eh mate ;)
    On pens, wasn't it?

    No the dream /nightmare was just a final loss .

    Come on I'm allowed to be wrong once .

    Happy to have a charidee bet for upbeats with anyone he's our manager at the start of next season
  • sinceiwasyoung
    sinceiwasyoung Posts: 1,040
    This isn't funny anymore Roland . Just get it done . 
  • God knows how roland  made his millions as don't think hes to bright??
    Give  Bowyer what he is worth as a championship manager 
    If you give him maybee another 100k per year just guessing??
    But with Lee in charge I would think straight away we would sell another 3000 season tickets this would bring in approx  1 million?
    Not bad for your 100k investment
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Does anyone have Duchatelet ear ?
    Young Roderick must've mentioned to his Dad to increase LB wages to a Championship level. Unless he doesn't care what flax his old man gets ?
    At least some dialogue between the owner and Bowyer is taking place and LDT is translating.
    Always tomorrow is D Day.
  • It doesn't take 2 + weeks to decide how much to pay your manager. RD does not want to be in the Championship because it is going to cost him more money each month.  We will return to League 1 at the end of the season because RD is a spiteful bastard and enjoys pissing off the fans who have the affront to dare question his view on anything. He will stay owning CAFC until he dies, gets his inflated price, or his life becomes sufficiently unpleasant . I think it will be the third option.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,034
    clb74 said:

    And I might win the Euro millions tonight 
    Perhaps you can then buy some trousers.
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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    Hes been offered  deal, but wanted to keep his lakes 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    I’m 90% certain he’s staying after message received last night and deciphered by me 
    95% we’ll hear something next week /beginning of week after,  regarding his contract situation .





  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    I’m 90% certain he’s staying after message received last night and deciphered by me 
    95% we’ll hear something next week /beginning of week after,  regarding his contract situation .





    Do you mean Duchatalet messages you?
  • Need to get this announced before the fixtures come out next week.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Need to get this announced before the fixtures come out next week.
    Need to get this announced before Bowyer goes Lakeside and Novak and Parker are signed on 1 year contracts to be our strikers after Taylor goes on strike.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    Roland's contract offer to Bow and backing in the Championship are derisory, and his asking price for the club is unrealistic. I don't think he'll ever get better offers for the club than this summer. If he continues to fail to see that I hope he faces the gravest consequences possible.
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,427
    edited June 2019
    Trouble is Ferryman, we will share and suffer those consequences.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    PWR Bowyer still no closer to signing
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    edited June 2019
    Ouch!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    At least they are still in negotiations, no need to push the panic button until the talks are off, having completely broken down.
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,673
    RedChaser said:
    At least they are still in negotiations, no need to push the panic button until the talks are off, having completely broken down.
    Tick tock 
    Tick tock. 
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    It's not gonna end well , is it ?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    It's not gonna end well , is it ?
    Pass me the crystal ball.  ;)
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    RedChaser said:
    It's not gonna end well , is it ?
    Pass me the crystal ball.  ;)
    Hope I'm proved wrong and it all ends happy ever after.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    If I had to bet £10 on this, I’d stick it on him signing. 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    RedChaser said:
    It's not gonna end well , is it ?
    Pass me the crystal ball.  ;)
    Hope I'm proved wrong and it all ends happy ever after.
    Don't we all, que sera sera :cold_sweat:
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    Probably discussed on here but someone I know who works at one of players academy said bowyer was offered no weekly wage but just win draw and lose bonus. 
  • I know someone who works for the club who revealed that Roland is a twat.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    iamdan said:
    Probably discussed on here but someone I know who works at one of players academy said bowyer was offered no weekly wage but just win draw and lose bonus. 
    That would make sense. And it is crazy like Roland as it can only be attractive if you are going to be well backed which we know Bowyer won't be. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    How many times can this bloke destroy us? After all the shite we’ve been through it’s amazing that this club still finds a way. We’ve come back. Fans players and management United. There’s a glimmer of hope. Seize it and we could go on one hell of a journey. But no. No. He’s going to kill us again. 

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