Why has Bowyer not been signed up yet?

Fanny Fanackapan

soapboxsam said:

Fanny Fanackapan said:

CAFCDAZ said:

Talal said:

CAFCDAZ said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

Why not sort it today then

That I cant answer as we all know what RD is like

Exactly, which is why I don't know how anyone can say for sure it'll be sorted tomorrow (not meant as a dig at you). 

His a pretty important cog in the wheel the person that told me

Tea lady/man ?

Do you think the tea lady/man was given a sweetener to talk, and do they know how much Lee will urn with this new contract.
We know that Lee's not bothered about the cup, but it will really take the biscuit if Duchatelet can't offer Bowyer a new wagon wheel. In @Fanny Fanackapan we trust.
There must be something brewing or else we are toast for next season. I'm not stirring but can you read tea leaves fanny ?

No tea leaves, I'm afraid.

Just saggy old bags, like me ! 

ElfsborgAddick

clb74 said:

Tell him to poke it Bowyer. 
He should of been on the blower the bank holiday Monday asking you how much do you want.

100%

SoundAsa£

CAFCDAZ said:

Talal said:

CAFCDAZ said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

Why not sort it today then

That I cant answer as we all know what RD is like

Exactly, which is why I don't know how anyone can say for sure it'll be sorted tomorrow (not meant as a dig at you). 

His a pretty important cog in the wheel the person that told me

He’s.........language Timothy!

MuttleyCAFC

Valley11 said:

Might be completely wrong but sounds like RD wanted this to be the new owner/Dalmat’s problem, that’s why it’s dragged on.
Is his getting involved now a sign the takeover is dead?

I doubt it. It means that Duchatelet is a disaster of an owner. Like we should need reminding of that fact!

DessieValley

Perhaps Roland has introduced a cycle to work scheme, which has clinched the deal with Bowyer.

Realising the tremendous tax and national insurance savings he will get, Bowyer could not contain his excitement. He rushed off to Halfords and used the vouchers to buy his son a bike, doesnt matter that it's not his birthday or Christmas. The tax man will never know that Bowyer senior is not actually using the bike to cycle to work.

Today Bowyer will return to the table, apologise for leaving so hastily yesterday to go to Halfords, and put pen to paper.

MuttleyCAFC

let's try to look on the bright side. Roland has owned us for quite a while so can somebody remind us of an intervention by him that was positive? I can't but some must do as they think him getting involved directly with Bowyer's contract is a good development. I would love some re-assurance. I don't think we can count positive things that have happened due to his lack of interest in us!

Wheresmeticket

I can imagine it:

LDT and Bowyer in office at Sparrows Lane.  LDT is putting the phone down.

LDT:  "That was Mr Duchatelet.  He says he wants to have this conversation with you himself".

Bowyer:  "Did he say why?"

LDT:  "He's got a bee in his bonnet about something you said a couple of weeks ago.  He wants assurances you are going to be a bit less forthcoming in future."

Bowyer:  "What has that got to do with my contract going forward?"

LDT (shrugs):  "I really couldn't comment.  He's bringing a solicitor with him."

Bowyer:  "OK.  Who is he?"

LDT:  "She".

IT_Andy

Thousands of questions have raced through my mind since yesterday's encounter.
In reality just meeting the man in person and shaking his hand and tapping his shoulder was a dream in itself.

se9addick

Showmetheway2gohome said:

D day today Roland going to show us what a good business man he is and sort out bowyers contract and proving it’s someone else’s fault for not getting it sorted before. Making us all love him again.if not we’re fucked next season. 

I actually don’t think we’ll hear much today.

MuttleyCAFC

The sad thing is, you don't even have to be that much of a good business man. You have to identify the importance of Bowyer to everybody, including yourself going forwards and accept he is going to cost a bit more than you had hoped for because his stock has risen and you missed your chance to get him cheaper.

se9addick

MuttleyCAFC said:

The sad thing is, you don't even have to be that much of a good business man. You have to identify the importance of Bowyer to everybody, including yourself going forwards and accept he is going to cost a bit more than you had hoped for because his stock has risen and you missed your chance to get him cheaper.

I would guess Bowyer will still be cheaper than any *sensible* alternative. 

MuttleyCAFC

I doubt there is a sensible alternative on Roland's list. The clue is in the word 'sensible'. Forget about football for a minute, Bowyer is important to keep a lid on things potentially getting really nasty for the old scroat.

jacob_CAFC

se9addick said:

Showmetheway2gohome said:

D day today Roland going to show us what a good business man he is and sort out bowyers contract and proving it’s someone else’s fault for not getting it sorted before. Making us all love him again.if not we’re fucked next season. 

I actually don’t think we’ll hear much today.

I can imagine the whole thing just trailing out tbh

se9addick

MuttleyCAFC said:

I doubt there is a sensible alternative on Roland's list. The clue is in the word 'sensible'. Forget about football for a minute, Bowyer is important to keep a lid on things potentially getting really nasty for the old scroat.

But I doubt the issue for Bowyer is just his contract (although clearly that’s very important) but also the budget that will be made available. If we are just going to be nailed on for relegation because Duchatelet won’t provide funds to make us competitive  then Bowyer would be better off leaving now while his stock is at an all time high. 

I can’t see Duchatelet giving LB both the contract and the budget that he wants and I really don’t think Duchatelet cares if things get “really nasty” - whatever we come up with won’t be a patch on what Standard Liege did.

SoundAsa£

se9addick said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

The sad thing is, you don't even have to be that much of a good business man. You have to identify the importance of Bowyer to everybody, including yourself going forwards and accept he is going to cost a bit more than you had hoped for because his stock has risen and you missed your chance to get him cheaper.

I would guess Bowyer will still be cheaper than any *sensible* alternative. 

The Helmet doesn’t do sensible alternatives!  

MuttleyCAFC

Yes, I agree - it will all be part of it. I'm sure Bowyer is realistic but will know what he needs to make a decent fist of things. If it does get signed, and I am now thinking that is unlikely, it might be a big positive for next season for the reason you give.

In terms of things getting nasty - I don't know if you are right there. The best thing from Roland's perspective is not to test how bad it can get.

ShootersHillGuru

Is it wrong of me to hope Bowyer twats him ?

killerandflash

se9addick said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I doubt there is a sensible alternative on Roland's list. The clue is in the word 'sensible'. Forget about football for a minute, Bowyer is important to keep a lid on things potentially getting really nasty for the old scroat.

But I doubt the issue for Bowyer is just his contract (although clearly that’s very important) but also the budget that will be made available. If we are just going to be nailed on for relegation because Duchatelet won’t provide funds to make us competitive  then Bowyer would be better off leaving now while his stock is at an all time high. 

I can’t see Duchatelet giving LB both the contract and the budget that he wants and I really don’t think Duchatelet cares if things get “really nasty” - whatever we come up with won’t be a patch on what Standard Liege did.

But then Bowyer might also be conscious of the likelihood of a takeover. If that happens (ha ha) in the next few weeks, then his budget would be increased and the job potentially more attractive

se9addick

killerandflash said:

se9addick said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I doubt there is a sensible alternative on Roland's list. The clue is in the word 'sensible'. Forget about football for a minute, Bowyer is important to keep a lid on things potentially getting really nasty for the old scroat.

But I doubt the issue for Bowyer is just his contract (although clearly that’s very important) but also the budget that will be made available. If we are just going to be nailed on for relegation because Duchatelet won’t provide funds to make us competitive  then Bowyer would be better off leaving now while his stock is at an all time high. 

I can’t see Duchatelet giving LB both the contract and the budget that he wants and I really don’t think Duchatelet cares if things get “really nasty” - whatever we come up with won’t be a patch on what Standard Liege did.

But then Bowyer might also be conscious of the likelihood of a takeover. If that happens (ha ha) in the next few weeks, then his budget would be increased and the job potentially more attractive

We’ve been talking about a takeover for - literally - years. If Bowyer has a chance to go to another team at this level which will assure him of a decent budget and a decent contract then he should take it rather than gamble that it might eventually happen here.

orpingtonRED

se9addick said:

killerandflash said:

se9addick said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I doubt there is a sensible alternative on Roland's list. The clue is in the word 'sensible'. Forget about football for a minute, Bowyer is important to keep a lid on things potentially getting really nasty for the old scroat.

But I doubt the issue for Bowyer is just his contract (although clearly that’s very important) but also the budget that will be made available. If we are just going to be nailed on for relegation because Duchatelet won’t provide funds to make us competitive  then Bowyer would be better off leaving now while his stock is at an all time high. 

I can’t see Duchatelet giving LB both the contract and the budget that he wants and I really don’t think Duchatelet cares if things get “really nasty” - whatever we come up with won’t be a patch on what Standard Liege did.

But then Bowyer might also be conscious of the likelihood of a takeover. If that happens (ha ha) in the next few weeks, then his budget would be increased and the job potentially more attractive

We’ve been talking about a takeover for - literally - years. If Bowyer has a chance to go to another team at this level which will assure him of a decent budget and a decent contract then he should take it rather than gamble that it might eventually happen here.

It is a tricky one for Lee. As much as i want him to stay i could understand him getting frustrated and walking. He has matured and comes across well in interviews he is even quite complimentary about Roland. However i bet he is still hot headed and could quite easy loose his shit and go back to fishing

Ferryman

MuttleyCAFC said:

This is the point - LDT will know how far Roland is willing to go and clearly it is not as far as Bowyer wants him to go. Now, Roland may go into this willing to go a yard or two further, but more likely knowing what we know, he thinks LDT probably didn't explain things as well as he can. And we all know how well he explains things don't we?

I am sure Roland wasn't always a complete lunatic, but he is now. How much evidence do we need? I would say the chances of keeping Bowyer have lessened after this development. 

This is likely to be the most frustrating, draining and puzzling meeting of Lee's life. 

soapboxsam

Ferryman said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

This is the point - LDT will know how far Roland is willing to go and clearly it is not as far as Bowyer wants him to go. Now, Roland may go into this willing to go a yard or two further, but more likely knowing what we know, he thinks LDT probably didn't explain things as well as he can. And we all know how well he explains things don't we?

I am sure Roland wasn't always a complete lunatic, but he is now. How much evidence do we need? I would say the chances of keeping Bowyer have lessened after this development. 

This is likely to be the most frustrating, draining and puzzling meeting of Lee's life. 

At Leeds the Chairman at the time was Peter Ridsdale who even trebled the tea ladies wages when he took over. Lee Bowyer is used to a Chairman saying Yes to his Demands not Huh.

se9addick

soapboxsam said:

Ferryman said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

This is the point - LDT will know how far Roland is willing to go and clearly it is not as far as Bowyer wants him to go. Now, Roland may go into this willing to go a yard or two further, but more likely knowing what we know, he thinks LDT probably didn't explain things as well as he can. And we all know how well he explains things don't we?

I am sure Roland wasn't always a complete lunatic, but he is now. How much evidence do we need? I would say the chances of keeping Bowyer have lessened after this development. 

This is likely to be the most frustrating, draining and puzzling meeting of Lee's life. 

At Leeds the Chairman at the time was Peter Ridsdale who even trebled the tea ladies wages when he took over. Lee Bowyer is used to a Chairman saying Yes to his Demands not Huh.

That was after he left Charlton for a better opportunity last time round !

MuttleyCAFC

To be honest, I was expecting a message confirming the talks had broken down by now!

AddickFC81

Showmetheway2gohome said:

It’ll be bowyer being greedy I bet.

Only in Roland's eyes.

AddickFC81

Showmetheway2gohome said:

Well still no news can’t see it happening now so the Belgium cunt has fucked us over again. He’ll be laughing at us having his Belgium beer tonight what a arsehole 

We'll go into the weekend with nothing announced he is staying but nothing will be announced about him not staying either. Instead the top article on the OS all weekend will just be about our women's football. But that said I would prefer that I would rather look at something like that than something about Bow leaving.

AddickFC81

Showmetheway2gohome said:

What just to make us miserable all weekend. He loves it he’ll never sell up he enjoys it to much 

Too bloody true mate.

MuttleyCAFC

To be honest the story Dazzler has given could have some legs. If this Cardiff bloke planned to buy us this month he won't want the manager going so may have intervened.

I think Duchatelet is in need of some urgent encouragement to sell quickly. 

floydroadfaithfull

Ffs just put me out my misery 

MuttleyCAFC

You don't need to be put out of your misery about Bowyer. I can tell you now that there is no way Duchatelet, the mad, yes mad, cheapskate arsehole is going to offer Bowyer a suitable deal. No point hanging on for that. Our best hope is he sells us reasonably quickly. It is not easy doing a deal with a mad man though!