Nope!!... Need someone to explain to me how having Taylor today would have stopped us losing 2-0
Or even how Taylor playing would have had our Midfield / Defence passing the ball to each other
We're just not doing the basics
Because we might have scored a goal? Something we’ve filed to do in the 180 minutes that he’s been out.
Remind me how many chances we even had to score a goal before it went 2-0?
Have all the Strikers that you want on the pitch but if your not going to provide them with a service to score they're not going to!!
A chance for one striker isn’t necessarily a chance for another. Taylor often creates his own opportunities and his goals to games ratios (5 in 6) suggests he probably would have scored at least one against two pretty ordinary sides.
That’s not to say the team shouldn’t be doing better in his absence, but all reason and logic suggests we are utterly dependent on him.
And all common sense says don't overreact, give the team time to adapt and improve.
The team started well but wouldn't have gone all season unbeaten. Just as Taylor wouldn't have scored 40+ had he played every game. Even he'd have had runs of games without scoring or creating anything.
Nope!!... Need someone to explain to me how having Taylor today would have stopped us losing 2-0
Or even how Taylor playing would have had our Midfield / Defence passing the ball to each other
We're just not doing the basics
Because we might have scored a goal? Something we’ve filed to do in the 180 minutes that he’s been out.
Remind me how many chances we even had to score a goal before it went 2-0?
Have all the Strikers that you want on the pitch but if your not going to provide them with a service to score they're not going to!!
Taylor does a lot more than just score goals. His work rate is remarkable, he holds the ball up well, brings others into the game, draws fouls, and is just an all round attacking outlet for us (and we desperately missed that today and last weekend). With Taylor, we wouldn’t have gone 180 minutes without scoring
And all common sense says don't overreact, give the team time to adapt and improve.
The team started well but wouldn't have gone all season unbeaten. Just as Taylor wouldn't have scored 40+ had he played every game. Even he'd have had runs of games without scoring or creating anything.
It may adapt and improve, but it won’t be as good without Taylor.
Nope!!... Need someone to explain to me how having Taylor today would have stopped us losing 2-0
Or even how Taylor playing would have had our Midfield / Defence passing the ball to each other
We're just not doing the basics
Because we might have scored a goal? Something we’ve filed to do in the 180 minutes that he’s been out.
Remind me how many chances we even had to score a goal before it went 2-0?
Have all the Strikers that you want on the pitch but if your not going to provide them with a service to score they're not going to!!
Taylor does a lot more than just score goals. His work rate is remarkable, he holds the ball up well, brings others into the game, draws fouls, and is just an all round attacking outlet for us (and we desperately missed that today and last weekend). With Taylor, we wouldn’t have gone 180 minutes without scoring
Thats the one thing I'd agree with spoken so far... trouble is though if the Midfield / Defence cant pass to each other, whats to say they could get it to Taylor?
Nope!!... Need someone to explain to me how having Taylor today would have stopped us losing 2-0
Or even how Taylor playing would have had our Midfield / Defence passing the ball to each other
We're just not doing the basics
Because we might have scored a goal? Something we’ve filed to do in the 180 minutes that he’s been out.
Remind me how many chances we even had to score a goal before it went 2-0?
Have all the Strikers that you want on the pitch but if your not going to provide them with a service to score they're not going to!!
Look at the winning goal against Brentford.
Conor Gallagher doesn't get as much space through the middle of the pitch as he does without the run of Lyle Taylor pulling one of their CBs wide and away from the ball.
That is the Lyle Taylor effect. He is so good that teams have to sink so many resources into stopping him that it allows the other players in our team to flourish. The other players are now playing without him, they have less time on the ball and are playing a sloppier game because of it.
You might not like it but it's now crystal clear that he is pivotal to our fortunes this season.
And all common sense says don't overreact, give the team time to adapt and improve.
The team started well but wouldn't have gone all season unbeaten. Just as Taylor wouldn't have scored 40+ had he played every game. Even he'd have had runs of games without scoring or creating anything.
It may adapt and improve, but it won’t be as good without Taylor.
Agree, which is very different to saying we’re utterly dependent on him.
And all common sense says don't overreact, give the team time to adapt and improve.
The team started well but wouldn't have gone all season unbeaten. Just as Taylor wouldn't have scored 40+ had he played every game. Even he'd have had runs of games without scoring or creating anything.
It may adapt and improve, but it won’t be as good without Taylor.
Agree, which is very different to saying we’re utterly dependent on him.
I don’t think it is - if we want to be as good as we have been then we are utterly dependant on him. Without him there is a lower ceiling to what we can achieve.
And all common sense says don't overreact, give the team time to adapt and improve.
The team started well but wouldn't have gone all season unbeaten. Just as Taylor wouldn't have scored 40+ had he played every game. Even he'd have had runs of games without scoring or creating anything.
It may adapt and improve, but it won’t be as good without Taylor.
Agree, which is very different to saying we’re utterly dependent on him.
I don’t think it is - if we want to be as good as we have been then we are utterly dependant on him. Without him there is a lower ceiling to what we can achieve.
To me utterly dependent sounds like we’re a one man team that will struggle to score a goal, never mind win a game without Taylor.
Every team isn’t as good without their best player. We can still get results without him.
Nope!!... Need someone to explain to me how having Taylor today would have stopped us losing 2-0
Or even how Taylor playing would have had our Midfield / Defence passing the ball to each other
We're just not doing the basics
Because we might have scored a goal? Something we’ve filed to do in the 180 minutes that he’s been out.
Remind me how many chances we even had to score a goal before it went 2-0?
Have all the Strikers that you want on the pitch but if your not going to provide them with a service to score they're not going to!!
Look at the winning goal against Brentford.
Conor Gallagher doesn't get as much space through the middle of the pitch as he does without the run of Lyle Taylor pulling one of their CBs wide and away from the ball.
That is the Lyle Taylor effect. He is so good that teams have to sink so many resources into stopping him that it allows the other players in our team to flourish. The other players are now playing without him, they have less time on the ball and are playing a sloppier game because of it.
You might not like it but it's now crystal clear that he is pivotal to our fortunes this season.
I agree about the space he creates for other players. There's no way Wigan would have pressed us so aggressively if Lyle was playing on the shoulder of their central defenders.
We all knew Taylor was important but does today show just how easy it is for the oppo to nullify us without him?
It shows how much Bowyer has ignored the risk of us having Taylor leave.
We need to focus on getting Bonne and Aneke up to speed.
Hemed hasn't sold me yet.
Of the three, Hemed is the one with a proven Championship record. I know we don't really have time, but I do think we need a bit of patience and perseverance.
We all knew Taylor was important but does today show just how easy it is for the oppo to nullify us without him?
It shows how much Bowyer has ignored the risk of us having Taylor leave.
We need to focus on getting Bonne and Aneke up to speed.
Hemed hasn't sold me yet.
Speed and movement improved when they came on. Only getting game time will get them up to Championship Speed/tempo and decision making. TBF I think Hemed needs a strike partner to be effective.
And all common sense says don't overreact, give the team time to adapt and improve.
The team started well but wouldn't have gone all season unbeaten. Just as Taylor wouldn't have scored 40+ had he played every game. Even he'd have had runs of games without scoring or creating anything.
It may adapt and improve, but it won’t be as good without Taylor.
Agree, which is very different to saying we’re utterly dependent on him.
I don’t think it is - if we want to be as good as we have been then we are utterly dependant on him. Without him there is a lower ceiling to what we can achieve.
To me utterly dependent sounds like we’re a one man team that will struggle to score a goal, never mind win a game without Taylor.
Every team isn’t as good without their best player. We can still get results without him.
That’s exactly what’s happened in the two games without him...
I think Aneke lacks Taylor's mobility and is carrying some timber, apart from that, he is s similar player in terms of ball retention, movement, and maybe has a better eye for a pass. I'd play him as a nine alongside Leko/Bonne with one to come off the bench to run at tired legs. Over next month, perhaps work on Hemed's fitness and how best to feed him.
I think Aneke lacks Taylor's mobility and is carrying some timber, apart from that, he is s similar player in terms of ball retention, movement, and maybe has a better eye for a pass. I'd play him as a nine alongside Leko/Bonne with one to come off the bench to run at tired legs. Over next month, perhaps work on Hemed's fitness and how best to feed him.
I don't necessarily disagree but Bowyer has said he's not a nine.
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That’s not to say the team shouldn’t be doing better in his absence, but all reason and logic suggests we are utterly dependent on him.
The team started well but wouldn't have gone all season unbeaten. Just as Taylor wouldn't have scored 40+ had he played every game. Even he'd have had runs of games without scoring or creating anything.
I have a feeling we've yet to score without him.
we got promoted without Grant, we wouldn’t have got promoted without Taylor
Every team isn’t as good without their best player. We can still get results without him.
effort, without him on the pitch and although they’re not shirkers, they don’t quite meet those standards.
We need to focus on getting Bonne and Aneke up to speed.
Hemed hasn't sold me yet.
TBF I think Hemed needs a strike partner to be effective.
But a couple of months until he's training fully, or on the bench, or 100% match fit etc etc ?
I reckon he'll be back in December & then he might be sold a few weeks later :-(