That is bad news this early in the season. I hope the remaining 18/24 can step up to the plate - and steer clear of injury at least until the 8 are back in action.
Edit: As pointed out below, my maths appears to be somewhat awry! Not sure now whether it was a typo or the late hour - take your pick! Glad I've given everyone a good laugh at my expense
That is bad news this early in the season. I hope the remaining 18/24 can step up to the plate - and steer clear of injury at least until the 8 are back in action.
I make it currently 10 out of the 24 currently unavailable, with a further Solly, Sarr, Pearce, Aneke, and Kayal all unable to do two 90 minutes in quick succession, one or two of them struggling to do 90 minutes altogether due to match fitness, at this moment in time.
We are desperately unlucky with injuries, but if we manage to get through this period in a decent position in the league, come the new year, we can hope we don't get more injuries and we'd soon have a whole or majority of the squad to choose from. Plus one or two reinforcements in the window as well.
To have over half of the squad not in the best of health, no other squad has that in this division right now. And don't go blaming the medical team or anything because most of these are either impact injuries or freak injury. The Forster-Caskey one was always going to happen last night, I said this the other day. Having only played his second full 90 minutes this season on Saturday, to be expected to play again so soon without a proper recovery, it's too much. But we had to choice but to start him really due to the position we were/are in.
With this injury list and the intensity of the fixtures, I think the realistic goal for this season is a mid-table finish (which I'd happily take now). We could aim high but we must bear in mind that we're a newly promoted side. Was thrilled last weekend because of the 3-0 home victory but soon brought down to earth by last night's unlucky defeat and now the list of injured players. 😢
Is the intensity of training a factor? The coaching staff often talk about how we train at a much higher intensity than other teams. I lack the knowledge to answer that question.
Injuries are unfortunate and we do tend to clump them together, but this is why you have a squad and for the first time in years we're playing first team rotation players instead of dragging unready youth players out of the academy to take on players well beyond their experience level. That's a positive we can take from this. Even when we've got a squad though we've managed to get all three LB options injured at once, so we're still Charltoning it
Injuries are unfortunate and we do tend to clump them together, but this is why you have a squad and for the first time in years we're playing first team rotation players instead of dragging unready youth players out of the academy to take on players well beyond their experience level. That's a positive we can take from this. Even when we've got a squad though we've managed to get all three LB options injured at once, so we're still Charltoning it
Yes really unlucky to have 2 leftbacks, the emergency left back cover and a right back all injured at the same time
Injuries are unfortunate and we do tend to clump them together, but this is why you have a squad and for the first time in years we're playing first team rotation players instead of dragging unready youth players out of the academy to take on players well beyond their experience level. That's a positive we can take from this. Even when we've got a squad though we've managed to get all three LB options injured at once, so we're still Charltoning it
Yes really unlucky to have 2 leftbacks, the emergency left back cover and a right back all injured at the same time
Don't know whether to laugh or cry at this. So unbelievably unlucky....
Injuries are unfortunate and we do tend to clump them together, but this is why you have a squad and for the first time in years we're playing first team rotation players instead of dragging unready youth players out of the academy to take on players well beyond their experience level. That's a positive we can take from this. Even when we've got a squad though we've managed to get all three LB options injured at once, so we're still Charltoning it
Yes really unlucky to have 2 leftbacks, the emergency left back cover and a right back all injured at the same time
Very much to do with the role they're being asked to fulfil. Okay, Page hasn't played for over a year, but to have these full backs struggling with fitness so often is because they're being demanded to get up and down the pitch in a way they wouldn't at other clubs. Where we don't play with wingers, our width comes from our full backs and our strikers dropping wide at times. They're then expected to also get back into their defensive positions just as quickly. It's a tough job. Add in the intensity of training and it puts a load on their body that they may not be accustomed to.
Injuries are unfortunate and we do tend to clump them together, but this is why you have a squad and for the first time in years we're playing first team rotation players instead of dragging unready youth players out of the academy to take on players well beyond their experience level. That's a positive we can take from this. Even when we've got a squad though we've managed to get all three LB options injured at once, so we're still Charltoning it
Yes really unlucky to have 2 leftbacks, the emergency left back cover and a right back all injured at the same time
Very much to do with the role they're being asked to fulfil. Okay, Page hasn't played for over a year, but to have these full backs struggling with fitness so often is because they're being demanded to get up and down the pitch in a way they wouldn't at other clubs. Where we don't play with wingers, our width comes from our full backs and our strikers dropping wide at times. They're then expected to also get back into their defensive positions just as quickly. It's a tough job. Add in the intensity of training and it puts a load on their body that they may not be accustomed to.
That’s how most clubs play these days though. Hardly anyone plays 442 with 2 proper wingers now
Robertson and TAA provide the attacking width for Liverpool to devastating effect for example, yet play every game
Injuries are unfortunate and we do tend to clump them together, but this is why you have a squad and for the first time in years we're playing first team rotation players instead of dragging unready youth players out of the academy to take on players well beyond their experience level. That's a positive we can take from this. Even when we've got a squad though we've managed to get all three LB options injured at once, so we're still Charltoning it
Yes really unlucky to have 2 leftbacks, the emergency left back cover and a right back all injured at the same time
Very much to do with the role they're being asked to fulfil. Okay, Page hasn't played for over a year, but to have these full backs struggling with fitness so often is because they're being demanded to get up and down the pitch in a way they wouldn't at other clubs. Where we don't play with wingers, our width comes from our full backs and our strikers dropping wide at times. They're then expected to also get back into their defensive positions just as quickly. It's a tough job. Add in the intensity of training and it puts a load on their body that they may not be accustomed to.
That’s how most clubs play these days though. Hardly anyone plays 442 with 2 proper wingers now
Robertson and TAA provide the attacking width for Liverpool to devastating effect for example, yet play every game
Exactly this. Plenty of teams play a similar system to us. But their players don't seem to be as badly affected by injuries.
Can someone state how long each player is expected to be out for and what their injury is?
Suppose people might be waiting for me to answer this?
Matthews - Hamstring injury picked up in training. Out until after the next international break.
Page - Achilles injury was secondary to his hamstring injury he picked up in pre-season. Back in training.
Purrington - Groin injury was secondary to his original calf problem. Was back in training last week, deemed too early, could be training again by the end of the week.
Field - Picked up knee injury last night. Unknown yet, length unknown. Now in a brace and Bow says it doesn't look good.
Forster-Caskey - Hamstring injury picked up last night. Likely to be out for around 4 weeks.
Williams - Knee injury. Had surgery on Tuesday and expected to be out for a minimum of 8 weeks. Expect him back in the new year.
Lapslie - Hamstring injury picked up in training around a month ago. Came back, done the same thing. Expected to be back sooner rather than later. If not this Saturday, quite possibly Preston on 3rd November.
Taylor - Lateral Collateral Ligament (Knee injury). Was in a brace, but now out of the brace as of Monday. Was given the all clear by the specialist and was back in training at Sparrows Lane yesterday.
Hemed - Keeps picking up little knocks. His lack of pre-season has really hindered him alongside the length of time it took for the transfer to be approved. Behind in match fitness too. Hope to be back for Preston on 3rd if he is deemed unavailable for this weekend, which is likely.
Injuries are unfortunate and we do tend to clump them together, but this is why you have a squad and for the first time in years we're playing first team rotation players instead of dragging unready youth players out of the academy to take on players well beyond their experience level. That's a positive we can take from this. Even when we've got a squad though we've managed to get all three LB options injured at once, so we're still Charltoning it
Yes really unlucky to have 2 leftbacks, the emergency left back cover and a right back all injured at the same time
Very much to do with the role they're being asked to fulfil. Okay, Page hasn't played for over a year, but to have these full backs struggling with fitness so often is because they're being demanded to get up and down the pitch in a way they wouldn't at other clubs. Where we don't play with wingers, our width comes from our full backs and our strikers dropping wide at times. They're then expected to also get back into their defensive positions just as quickly. It's a tough job. Add in the intensity of training and it puts a load on their body that they may not be accustomed to.
That’s how most clubs play these days though. Hardly anyone plays 442 with 2 proper wingers now
Robertson and TAA provide the attacking width for Liverpool to devastating effect for example, yet play every game
Exactly this. Plenty of teams play a similar system to us. But their players don't seem to be as badly affected by injuries.
Not many teams play a diamond or when they have 3 at the back, only have the wing-backs as wide men too.
You can't give Liverpool as an example when they play 4-3-3 so naturally will have Salah and Mane out wide too, albeit they will cut in.
How many teams play a diamond predominantly in the Championship? Us and Luton, sometimes Stoke.
Our training is for more intense then it every used to be too.
Whether the modern day full back is expected to be like that or not doesn't matter because most of the time, other clubs will still have wide players further up the pitch. We don't.
Lots of hamstring injuries. Do they not stretch properly?
Quite possibly not doing the correct stretches, but also I'd bet that their quads are stronger than hamstrings which it needs to be the other way around. Unfortunately, football doesn't allow for that to happen too often.
Matthews, no pre-season, signed late, hamstring injury.
Page, no competitive game for so long, plays in pre-season, hamstring injury followed by achilles.
Forster-Caskey, played three 90 minutes in 18 months, plays too soon after the last 90 minutes, hamstring injury.
Lapslie is the only odd case, but that could be anything, even going in too duracell bunny like.
The first three are no surprise to me so wouldn't worry too much about the reoccurrence.
Will be interesting to see who plays where on Saturday, might we see Solly and Oshilaja as full backs like we finished last night, or will Sarr be drafted in to play?
Will Aneke start up top with Bonne or will we play 1 up top? Will people complaining we had 8 central midfielders in the squad be moaning that we don't have enough of this game?
Bonne has stepped up big time. He could have taken the match ball home with him last night. Not many expected that, so quickly anyway. Pratley as others have said, seems to be getting younger. Again, who forecast that. If only that shot had gone in last night.. Last night I saw why people rate Kayal so highly. He needs game time, now he is going to get it. Connor understandably looked knackered last night, but he's got the engine of two players. Some of the injured look to be close to a return. I was wondering what had happened to George, he could have done the job as a late sub last night. Hemed will come good. Brighton fans loved him, that's good enough for me to believe in him.
The only one I am not sure about is Aneke, I just don't get what type of player he is, what role Bow expects him to play. But even he has suffered from injury, and deserves some patience.
Like many I was and am raging about what happened last night, and am also writing off Saturday, but agree that if we can get some back who look close, we can push on. Lyle back for Millwall, that would be fantastic.
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I hope the remaining 18/24 can step up to the plate - and steer clear of injury at least until the 8 are back in action.
Edit: As pointed out below, my maths appears to be somewhat awry! Not sure now whether it was a typo or the late hour - take your pick! Glad I've given everyone a good laugh at my expense
We are desperately unlucky with injuries, but if we manage to get through this period in a decent position in the league, come the new year, we can hope we don't get more injuries and we'd soon have a whole or majority of the squad to choose from. Plus one or two reinforcements in the window as well.
To have over half of the squad not in the best of health, no other squad has that in this division right now. And don't go blaming the medical team or anything because most of these are either impact injuries or freak injury. The Forster-Caskey one was always going to happen last night, I said this the other day. Having only played his second full 90 minutes this season on Saturday, to be expected to play again so soon without a proper recovery, it's too much. But we had to choice but to start him really due to the position we were/are in.
Can someone state how long each player is expected to be out for and what their injury is?
Robertson and TAA provide the attacking width for Liverpool to devastating effect for example, yet play every game
Plenty of teams play a similar system to us.
But their players don't seem to be as badly affected by injuries.
Matthews - Hamstring injury picked up in training. Out until after the next international break.
Page - Achilles injury was secondary to his hamstring injury he picked up in pre-season. Back in training.
Purrington - Groin injury was secondary to his original calf problem. Was back in training last week, deemed too early, could be training again by the end of the week.
Field - Picked up knee injury last night. Unknown yet, length unknown. Now in a brace and Bow says it doesn't look good.
Forster-Caskey - Hamstring injury picked up last night. Likely to be out for around 4 weeks.
Williams - Knee injury. Had surgery on Tuesday and expected to be out for a minimum of 8 weeks. Expect him back in the new year.
Lapslie - Hamstring injury picked up in training around a month ago. Came back, done the same thing. Expected to be back sooner rather than later. If not this Saturday, quite possibly Preston on 3rd November.
Taylor - Lateral Collateral Ligament (Knee injury). Was in a brace, but now out of the brace as of Monday. Was given the all clear by the specialist and was back in training at Sparrows Lane yesterday.
Hemed - Keeps picking up little knocks. His lack of pre-season has really hindered him alongside the length of time it took for the transfer to be approved. Behind in match fitness too. Hope to be back for Preston on 3rd if he is deemed unavailable for this weekend, which is likely.
You can't give Liverpool as an example when they play 4-3-3 so naturally will have Salah and Mane out wide too, albeit they will cut in.
How many teams play a diamond predominantly in the Championship? Us and Luton, sometimes Stoke.
Our training is for more intense then it every used to be too.
Whether the modern day full back is expected to be like that or not doesn't matter because most of the time, other clubs will still have wide players further up the pitch. We don't.
Matthews, no pre-season, signed late, hamstring injury.
Page, no competitive game for so long, plays in pre-season, hamstring injury followed by achilles.
Forster-Caskey, played three 90 minutes in 18 months, plays too soon after the last 90 minutes, hamstring injury.
Lapslie is the only odd case, but that could be anything, even going in too duracell bunny like.
The first three are no surprise to me so wouldn't worry too much about the reoccurrence.
Will Aneke start up top with Bonne or will we play 1 up top? Will people complaining we had 8 central midfielders in the squad be moaning that we don't have enough of this game?
Personally I'd go
Phillips
Oshilaja Lockyer Pearce Sarr Solly
Pratley Cullen
Gallagher
Maynard-Brewer, Kayal, Oztumer, Davison, Morgan and hope that at least 2 from Lapslie/Matthews/Purrington/Hemed are able to make the bench
And yeah Amos? What? Why not involved. Not listed as injured on the OS article.
Bonne has stepped up big time. He could have taken the match ball home with him last night. Not many expected that, so quickly anyway.
Pratley as others have said, seems to be getting younger. Again, who forecast that. If only that shot had gone in last night..
Last night I saw why people rate Kayal so highly. He needs game time, now he is going to get it.
Connor understandably looked knackered last night, but he's got the engine of two players.
Some of the injured look to be close to a return. I was wondering what had happened to George, he could have done the job as a late sub last night.
Hemed will come good. Brighton fans loved him, that's good enough for me to believe in him.
The only one I am not sure about is Aneke, I just don't get what type of player he is, what role Bow expects him to play. But even he has suffered from injury, and deserves some patience.
Like many I was and am raging about what happened last night, and am also writing off Saturday, but agree that if we can get some back who look close, we can push on. Lyle back for Millwall, that would be fantastic.