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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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True, but an overhaul of the whole squad is a huge undertaking. SG pulled it off last season, but as he said himself, he would not like to do that again. We were very fortunate in many ways.Pelling1993 said:Loan signings are not the end of the world in Jan, if we stay up we won't have a bloated squad full of players that are lower half championship quality. We can then have a whole summer to invest and improve the entire squad
This is why I think the aim of bringing in three permanent that are as good or better than what we have in January is important.Cullen is unlikely to be loaned out again next season. He will be back with WH playing or sold and there will be clubs better placed to attract him. We will need a left sided CH, a defensive midfielder, left back, right back, attacking midfielder, and a centre forward if Taylor stays. Two if he leaves.That is just for the first team. Oh, and most of our players are soon out of contract. Huge amount of work needs to be done which is why we need to start now, and get it right first time.0 -
Another 18 year old forward loan rumour I've had mentioned to me is Folarin Balogun from Arsenal.1
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Based on all the players he’s brought in over the past 18 months surely both scouting AND negotiating is what he does best.JamesSeed said:
SG is brilliant at spotting talent. Let MS conduct the business side, leaving Steve to do what he does best.J BLOCK said:
Let's judge at the end of the window, i'd rather SG running the show after his fantastic track record.JoshAddick said:Don’t think it’s a totally bad thing if MS is involved in negotiations. Being an ex agent, he will probably know what he’s doing0 -
There are a number of teams that won’t spend 8m on a player (Millwall not spent more than 1m ever) that will be in this league. And clearly our chairman has a good relationship with their chairman. Just a thought that’s all.Dazzler21 said:
Plus everyone else will that fails to leave this league at either end of the table.BR7_addick said:
I’ve a feeling we will go in for Toney in the summer if Lyle goes.ForeverAddickted said:
Especially if we could buy a player now for between £500k - £13m (Gnaudillet / Toney) yet for half the price in the summerBR7_addick said:Know absolutely nothing about he lad.That said, I’d take a younger, presumably hungry youngster from a PL side on loan rather than a late 20s loanee from our division/SPL. So fairly positive, in Gallen we trust with this one.
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Brentford offered £5m plus add-ons for him but was rejected. Obviously very highly rated.Addickted said:Another 18 year old forward loan rumour I've had mentioned to me is Folarin Balogun from Arsenal.0 -
We need to replace Gallagher ( Maddison), Leko (green) kayal ( Doherty) is say ad Idah to that and maybe one decent defender, that'll do for me2
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To give us a pacey option up front, even if that’s just coming off the bench. Green’s not an out and out striker and Bonne is more similar to Taylor than Grant - mobile but more of a hold up striker than one who uses out and out pace.lancashire lad said:why do we need an inexperienced 18 year old striker when we have a more experienced one in Bonne who should be back soon?1 -
What if Bonne has a set back? Or either Taylor, Bonne or Hemed get injured? Is Idah a different type of striker than we already have? Will bringing in a loan for minimal spend allow us to spend more on a midfielder now or more on a striker in the summer?lancashire lad said:why do we need an inexperienced 18 year old striker when we have a more experienced one in Bonne who should be back soon?
Id imagine SG & LB have answered all those before approaching Norwich.3 -
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It is going to be difficult to recruit proven Championship or even League one players as they will expect to go into the starting 11. With the quality of players we have who have just returned from injury or are due to do so soon, we won’t entice players of real quality in this window.
A striker will not displace Taylor, and potentially Bonne when he returns.
Nobody will get in ahead of Cullen, Field, Williams or Pratley.Maybe a centre half, particularly a tall, strong, ball winning player may get a decent chance at centre back. A new left back may displace Purrington.
Otherwise it is hard to see why a certain standard of player would join us if they are a starter at their own club.1 -
AddickUpNorth said:A lad I work with is good friends with Ben Godfrey at Norwich (they played together as schoolboys in York) so I’ll try and get some inside info. Is this what it feels like to be ITK?“Inside info” I see what you did there, very clever. 😉
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I had hoped we'd now be setting our sights a little higher than unproven kids, however, Bowyer and Gallen rarely get it wrong, so if this kid's a target then I trust their judgement6
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Exactly. If you look at the top scorers in the Championship last season, so players who have proven they can score at this level, you're seeing players go for insane money once they've shown they have the ability. Neal Maupay and Oli McBurnie both went to Premier League clubs for £20m each, they're your proven goalscorers. Ivan Toney has had one and a half good seasons in L1, Peterborough are looking for crazy money for him, and he hasn't even shown he can score at this level yet. The only team you could realisitically look at bending over for a cheap talented player in English football was Roland's Charlton, and (hopefully) even that opportunity has gone now. At our level with an obvious desire to not tear up the wage budget at this stage in the season, the only way we're getting anywhere is by taking a punt on someone who hasn't done it yet but we think could. Like how we trusted a L1-proven striker to take the step up to the Championship alongside a winger who couldn't get into a Championship team and a non-league striker who had never been near this level. Like how we loaned in a 19 year old who had never played senior football in his life at the start of the season, and are all devasted now he's been taken away from us mid-season. This isn't the old days when you could honestly pull a decent player out of a midtable or lower division team's side without junking your budget. Talented proven players at this level cost insane money and we're better off hunting the bargains, it's just hopefully this time the pool of talent we're fishing in should be bigger than under Roland when we were essentially reliant on favours a lot.ValleyGary said:It’s mad how some people actually think it’s like recruiting on Football Manager. Yeah all we need is a pacey striker around 25-30 (so basically their optimum level for age) that can score goals in the Championship.Those type of players are like rocking horse shit! And we are trying to recruit in the worst window.The kid bagged a hat trick against a team we mustered about 2 shots against, albeit they may have rested some players. With Taylor coming back to full fitness he could potentially get back to his best playing with this type of forward (see KAG).
Spend our money of a couple of good midfielders (one hopefully being Maddison), and keep our selves up. Then hopefully the real recruitment starts in the summer and we can aim for top half of the table.
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When we played Wigan earlier this season I said to my son I’d love to have him in our team.CharltonByBlood said:Same person who mentioned JCH told me we are sniffing around Sam Morsy at Wigan. Nothing concrete but definitely interested
Might be a summer job, if Wigan go down for example we may go get him1 -
If Lyle stays this window ( and personally I hope he does ) then Taylor, Bonne, Hemed and Green / Davison isn't a bad pool of strikers - worst case last 15 mins of a game put Naby up there !
It seems most championship clubs are chasing the same strikers in Toney , Wells , Vydra and Taylor.
I think more important is a Centre Back partner for Lockyer. - need to stop leaking goals. Always think we will create chances just need to stop conceding first and chasing games. Pearce and Sarr have question marks for me at the back.
Cullen and Pratley / Field will definitely help but Pearce and Sarr always seem to have a rick in them sometime in 90 mins.
I know Centre Back signings aren't that exciting but I think that's where its needed most right now.
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Injuries.lancashire lad said:why do we need an inexperienced 18 year old striker when we have a more experienced one in Bonne who should be back soon?1 -
Quite frankly, I can’t get my head around some of the immediate negativity with regard to our transfer targets when they get mentioned on here.A - none of us are scouts or are working in football. We think we know a little bi about the game and although I am sure we can all probably recognise good football when we see it, and good players when we see them, none of us know what it’s truly like to see a player play in the context of what goes on in training, their potential, physique, how they carry themselves etc
B - We’re Charlton Athletic trying to buy players in the Jan transfer window within a sustainable budget. Who are you expecting? There seems to be a massive disconnect between who people suddenly think we are able to get, and those that we’re likely to get, given the parameters we have to operate in at this time of the season. The variables are many, ever changing and some beyond our control
C - Gallen’s recruitment given the conditions he has been working too to date, has been nothing short of miraculous. There will always be the odd players who doesn’t work out, but f*** me, we even got something out of Josh Parker last season who admittedly wasn’t the sort of player you would build your team around, but he played his role in the run in. With the added impetus of having what seems like a bit more backing under Nimer, he will deliver and I trust him implicitly.
Don’t mean to have a go, but sometimes I wonder what people’s actual concept of what they think we will get is, versus the reality. Have some faith :-)48 -
I do want a quality centre back to partner Lockyer for the long term but I don't think now is the time, Oshi, Nabs and Pearce should be just about enough to do the job at hand, even Pratley can play there, the issue is what plays ahead of them as been repeated before, the difference someone like Cullen makes. We need a proper energetic centre mid who can break up play and get the ball forward and a versatile player who can play as an attacking mid or a winger which is Maddison obviously and then a utility front player. That should just be enough.
We don't need full backs, Doughty and Purrington ain't getting us relegated, neither are Solly or Matthews, it's just further up where we need the extra goal or two a game.3 -
I think we have been crying out for a proper playmaker for years. Maybe since Andy Reid left. Someone that can consistently create chances and unlock defences. Possibly chip in with a few goals from midfield. Any ideas?
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I'd be very excited if we brought in Idah, but purely based on the fact that hes from my part of the world. I don't believe I've ever seen him play. People around here talk highly of him and have done for a while but thats not unusual for a young player contracted to a Premier League or Championship club.He'll be 19 in a few weeks, almost exactly 1 year younger than Gallagher but has already got more senior football under his belt than Gallagher had when he came to Charlton. Hes about two years younger than Leko but already has more senior goals than Leko had when he came here. We definitely shouldn't write him off just because hes young.7
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Chuks Aneke, Chuks Aneke, Chuks AnekeScoham said:
On the streets of South LondonDazzler21 said:
PANICBR7_addick said:Holy sh1t we have a rumour.
Panic on the streets of Birmingham
I wonder to myself...
Could the Addicks sign Maddison?
Bielsa’s Leeds side may send us down
I wonder to myself...
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Dizzle said:I think we have been crying out for a proper playmaker for years. Maybe since Andy Reid left. Someone that can consistently create chances and unlock defences. Possibly chip in with a few goals from midfield. Any ideas?
Maddison’s record from an interview last September
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11810064/marcus-maddison-interview-peterborough-forward-on-assists-social-media-critcism-and-his-future5 -
Agree with that but there’s a but. Look yourself in the eye and say honestly that you wasn’t expecting someone with a slightly higher profile than an 18 year old Norwich loanee ? I’m not saying that won’t happen but I can’t imagine too many of us not starting to wonder. In Bowyer we trust.cabbles said:Quite frankly, I can’t get my head around some of the immediate negativity with regard to our transfer targets when they get mentioned on here.A - none of us are scouts or are working in football. We think we know a little bi about the game and although I am sure we can all probably recognise good football when we see it, and good players when we see them, none of us know what it’s truly like to see a player play in the context of what goes on in training, their potential, physique, how they carry themselves etc
B - We’re Charlton Athletic trying to buy players in the Jan transfer window within a sustainable budget. Who are you expecting? There seems to be a massive disconnect between who people suddenly think we are able to get, and those that we’re likely to get, given the parameters we have to operate in at this time of the season. The variables are many, ever changing and some beyond our control
C - Gallen’s recruitment given the conditions he has been working too to date, has been nothing short of miraculous. There will always be the odd players who doesn’t work out, but f*** me, we even got something out of Josh Parker last season who admittedly wasn’t the sort of player you would build your team around, but he played his role in the run in. With the added impetus of having what seems like a bit more backing under Nimer, he will deliver and I trust him implicitly.
Don’t mean to have a go, but sometimes I wonder what people’s actual concept of what they think we will get is, versus the reality. Have some faith :-)1 -
That volume of assists from a player is just ridiculous.
He may be a bit of a penis but my god can that guy play football12 -
Think that appraisal ensures we won’t be signing him.Swisdom said:That volume of assists from a player is just ridiculous.
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The assists are absolutely ridiculous, he is the reason Peterborough have this record of having insane strikers and selling them on, it's his service, watch some of his montages and it's clear right away, he could have made even spongefoot a 15 goal man. Worth every penny this window don't care if he's free in the summer7
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Pretty sure I read somewhere that 80% of those 2017-18 assists were directly for Jack Marriott. Let's get them both and reunite that dream team!4
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If there is an element of "underwhelmedness" it's that Adam Idah looks like the sort of signing we'd make if Roland was still our owner. Indeed from this article it seems that he was expected to go to a L1 side (Doncaster were after him), I don't see any other Championship sides linked to him.cabbles said:Quite frankly, I can’t get my head around some of the immediate negativity with regard to our transfer targets when they get mentioned on here.A - none of us are scouts or are working in football. We think we know a little bi about the game and although I am sure we can all probably recognise good football when we see it, and good players when we see them, none of us know what it’s truly like to see a player play in the context of what goes on in training, their potential, physique, how they carry themselves etc
B - We’re Charlton Athletic trying to buy players in the Jan transfer window within a sustainable budget. Who are you expecting? There seems to be a massive disconnect between who people suddenly think we are able to get, and those that we’re likely to get, given the parameters we have to operate in at this time of the season. The variables are many, ever changing and some beyond our control
C - Gallen’s recruitment given the conditions he has been working too to date, has been nothing short of miraculous. There will always be the odd players who doesn’t work out, but f*** me, we even got something out of Josh Parker last season who admittedly wasn’t the sort of player you would build your team around, but he played his role in the run in. With the added impetus of having what seems like a bit more backing under Nimer, he will deliver and I trust him implicitly.
Don’t mean to have a go, but sometimes I wonder what people’s actual concept of what they think we will get is, versus the reality. Have some faith :-)
https://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwich-city/ncfc-transfer-rumours-charlton-idah-loan-1-6480917
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