Most overrated films

how4rdl

Gone with the Wind, couldn't believe how bad it was.

SantaClaus

Apocalypse Now

Missed It

ValleyGary said:

JiMMy 85 said:

ValleyGary said:

JiMMy 85 said:

ValleyGary said:

Really didn’t understand the fuss over Hell or Highwater.

Jesus Christ now you've crossed a line!! 

Sorry mate, I just found it really dull.

I'm trying to come up with an argument as to why it's great, and it's really hard! 

I seem to like anything that Taylor Sheridan is involved in (Sicario, Wind River). I think his scripts are intriguing stories that are teased out really nicely. With HOHW, it's basically a bank robbing western told in modern times, with something to say about the hard times that have befallen small town America. And the arsehole brother reminds me of a few people I've met over the years, I thought Ben Foster played that guy brilliantly. I dunno. I just like the storytelling I guess. Sheridan likes to deal with grey areas, rather than binary good v evil stories which makes it more interesting. 

I quite enjoyed Wind River without being blown away but i also found Sicario dull. With the first scene in Sicario i thought id absolutely love it, then it just faded into Emily Blunts character being really shit at her job.

I know what you mean about Sicario.  I think it suffered from Dennis Villeneuve's style of direction, which tends to be still, silent, contemplative.  It worked very well in Arrival but it just wasn't right for Sicario.  I enjoyed Sicario 2 much more. 

Rossman92

The Blair Witch project and The Witch. Both I've seen classified as two of the scariest movies of the past two decades. Absolute shit the both of em

JiMMy 85

Missed It said:

ValleyGary said:

JiMMy 85 said:

ValleyGary said:

JiMMy 85 said:

ValleyGary said:

Really didn’t understand the fuss over Hell or Highwater.

Jesus Christ now you've crossed a line!! 

Sorry mate, I just found it really dull.

I'm trying to come up with an argument as to why it's great, and it's really hard! 

I seem to like anything that Taylor Sheridan is involved in (Sicario, Wind River). I think his scripts are intriguing stories that are teased out really nicely. With HOHW, it's basically a bank robbing western told in modern times, with something to say about the hard times that have befallen small town America. And the arsehole brother reminds me of a few people I've met over the years, I thought Ben Foster played that guy brilliantly. I dunno. I just like the storytelling I guess. Sheridan likes to deal with grey areas, rather than binary good v evil stories which makes it more interesting. 

I quite enjoyed Wind River without being blown away but i also found Sicario dull. With the first scene in Sicario i thought id absolutely love it, then it just faded into Emily Blunts character being really shit at her job.

I know what you mean about Sicario.  I think it suffered from Dennis Villeneuve's style of direction, which tends to be still, silent, contemplative.  It worked very well in Arrival but it just wasn't right for Sicario.  I enjoyed Sicario 2 much more. 

Conversely, I think his style of direction is what made Sicario one of the best films of the last decade, and the sequel is an imitation that lacks that level of class. 

The plot initially seems as though it’s a straightforward revenge thriller - Blunt has lost her friends and the government are giving her a chance to get back at the cartel. But that’s only what she thinks - and Villeneuve riffs on that by only ever showing what she sees.

The audience never sees or knows anything outside of her perspective until we get to the raid at the end. If she doesn’t see a face (the Texan hitmen) neither do we. If she’s not in the meeting, neither are we. It’s one of the best plot twists I can think of and the direction matches the script. 

And by not being privy to the people at the top of the chain of command, we’re led to believe the US is all powerful. But in the sequel, they show us the man behind the curtain and yes, while it’s a bit more mainstream and accessible, it’s far, far less interesting. 

ken_shabby

Invisible Thread - had about the same amount of plot as the 50 shades films, but was universally drooled over
Peter's Friends - what a bunch of tossers
Little Women - another film where the director helpfully took out any sort of plot line to add some sort of interest - dire!
Gone with the Wind - maybe rubbish films were better appreciated back then
All the Star Wars saga, apart from the one with jar Jar, when the critics actually dealt with how poor it was

RodneyCharltonTrotta

Of recent times, The Irishman. Stellar cast and good film but hugely overrated.

Did watch it over a couple of nights a few days apart so perhaps would enjoy it more in one sitting.

Chunes

I just don't get Star Wars. I have tried so many times. At times I've been almost desperate to get into because it seems like something I would like. But I just don't get it. They're just hollow action films with terrible plots.

Oh and that new Elton John bio. I thought the actor was absolutely terrible. 

happyvalley

Debbie does Dallas, no sights of Dallas at all.

Baldybonce

happyvalley said:

Debbie does Dallas, no sights of Dallas at all.

Introduced a lot of teenage boys to table tennis though.

soapy_jones

Baldybonce said:

happyvalley said:

Debbie does Dallas, no sights of Dallas at all.

Introduced a lot of teenage boys to table tennis though.

Well the film certainly improved my grip!

Mametz

The Deer Hunter. Not only was it boring rubbish, it was very very long boring rubbish.

Davo55

Chunes said:

I just don't get Star Wars. I have tried so many times. At times I've been almost desperate to get into because it seems like something I would like. But I just don't get it. They're just hollow action films with terrible plots.

Oh and that new Elton John bio. I thought the actor was absolutely terrible. 

Totally agree. Massively overdone on the use of fantasy sequences; played fast and loose with the chronology of EJ's music; focused on the "28 years sober" angle without exploring at all why he continued to be an obnoxious shit etc etc.

blackpool72

Deep throat. 
Compared to what you can get on pornhub it's totally shite. 

Bedsaddick

This thread just winds me up . How can anybody think films like Sicario , The Dear Hunter and Once upon a time In Hollywood are overrated - Bloody weirdos ! 😉

Mametz

happyvalley said:

Debbie does Dallas, no sights of Dallas at all.

You do get to see a lot of Debbie though!

Missed It

JiMMy 85 said:

Missed It said:

ValleyGary said:

JiMMy 85 said:

ValleyGary said:

JiMMy 85 said:

ValleyGary said:

Really didn’t understand the fuss over Hell or Highwater.

Jesus Christ now you've crossed a line!! 

Sorry mate, I just found it really dull.

I'm trying to come up with an argument as to why it's great, and it's really hard! 

I seem to like anything that Taylor Sheridan is involved in (Sicario, Wind River). I think his scripts are intriguing stories that are teased out really nicely. With HOHW, it's basically a bank robbing western told in modern times, with something to say about the hard times that have befallen small town America. And the arsehole brother reminds me of a few people I've met over the years, I thought Ben Foster played that guy brilliantly. I dunno. I just like the storytelling I guess. Sheridan likes to deal with grey areas, rather than binary good v evil stories which makes it more interesting. 

I quite enjoyed Wind River without being blown away but i also found Sicario dull. With the first scene in Sicario i thought id absolutely love it, then it just faded into Emily Blunts character being really shit at her job.

I know what you mean about Sicario.  I think it suffered from Dennis Villeneuve's style of direction, which tends to be still, silent, contemplative.  It worked very well in Arrival but it just wasn't right for Sicario.  I enjoyed Sicario 2 much more. 

Conversely, I think his style of direction is what made Sicario one of the best films of the last decade, and the sequel is an imitation that lacks that level of class. 

The plot initially seems as though it’s a straightforward revenge thriller - Blunt has lost her friends and the government are giving her a chance to get back at the cartel. But that’s only what she thinks - and Villeneuve riffs on that by only ever showing what she sees.

The audience never sees or knows anything outside of her perspective until we get to the raid at the end. If she doesn’t see a face (the Texan hitmen) neither do we. If she’s not in the meeting, neither are we. It’s one of the best plot twists I can think of and the direction matches the script. 

And by not being privy to the people at the top of the chain of command, we’re led to believe the US is all powerful. But in the sequel, they show us the man behind the curtain and yes, while it’s a bit more mainstream and accessible, it’s far, far less interesting. 

The way it's built around Blunt is one of my main issues with the film.  She doesn't drive the film as it's protagonist.  We only really see events as they happen around her.  It feels like the film is just happening to her and at the end, casts her aside.  I appreciate her character is supposed to be some sort of moral centre to the film, but I never really bought how a law enforcement professional could be quite so naive about how the world works.  

Villeneuve has got some brilliant performances from the actors, Blunt, Brolin and Del Toro in particular, but the film overall feels slow and ponderous, indulging itself with clever cinematography rather getting the story moving along.

I'll grant you the sequel is a lot more straightforward, but sometimes you just want to be entertained, instead of being impressed by a director's cleverness.

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Red_in_SE8 said:

Dunkirk

Did u see it at the cinema tho?

 Irishman was turd. 

fadgadget

Easy Rider .

JiMMy 85

Missed It said:

JiMMy 85 said:

Missed It said:

ValleyGary said:

JiMMy 85 said:

ValleyGary said:

JiMMy 85 said:

ValleyGary said:

Really didn’t understand the fuss over Hell or Highwater.

Jesus Christ now you've crossed a line!! 

Sorry mate, I just found it really dull.

I'm trying to come up with an argument as to why it's great, and it's really hard! 

I seem to like anything that Taylor Sheridan is involved in (Sicario, Wind River). I think his scripts are intriguing stories that are teased out really nicely. With HOHW, it's basically a bank robbing western told in modern times, with something to say about the hard times that have befallen small town America. And the arsehole brother reminds me of a few people I've met over the years, I thought Ben Foster played that guy brilliantly. I dunno. I just like the storytelling I guess. Sheridan likes to deal with grey areas, rather than binary good v evil stories which makes it more interesting. 

I quite enjoyed Wind River without being blown away but i also found Sicario dull. With the first scene in Sicario i thought id absolutely love it, then it just faded into Emily Blunts character being really shit at her job.

I know what you mean about Sicario.  I think it suffered from Dennis Villeneuve's style of direction, which tends to be still, silent, contemplative.  It worked very well in Arrival but it just wasn't right for Sicario.  I enjoyed Sicario 2 much more. 

Conversely, I think his style of direction is what made Sicario one of the best films of the last decade, and the sequel is an imitation that lacks that level of class. 

The plot initially seems as though it’s a straightforward revenge thriller - Blunt has lost her friends and the government are giving her a chance to get back at the cartel. But that’s only what she thinks - and Villeneuve riffs on that by only ever showing what she sees.

The audience never sees or knows anything outside of her perspective until we get to the raid at the end. If she doesn’t see a face (the Texan hitmen) neither do we. If she’s not in the meeting, neither are we. It’s one of the best plot twists I can think of and the direction matches the script. 

And by not being privy to the people at the top of the chain of command, we’re led to believe the US is all powerful. But in the sequel, they show us the man behind the curtain and yes, while it’s a bit more mainstream and accessible, it’s far, far less interesting. 

The way it's built around Blunt is one of my main issues with the film.  She doesn't drive the film as it's protagonist.  We only really see events as they happen around her.  It feels like the film is just happening to her and at the end, casts her aside.  I appreciate her character is supposed to be some sort of moral centre to the film, but I never really bought how a law enforcement professional could be quite so naive about how the world works.  

Villeneuve has got some brilliant performances from the actors, Blunt, Brolin and Del Toro in particular, but the film overall feels slow and ponderous, indulging itself with clever cinematography rather getting the story moving along.

I'll grant you the sequel is a lot more straightforward, but sometimes you just want to be entertained, instead of being impressed by a director's cleverness.

There’s plenty of more straightforward action/ thriller entertainment out there! 

Now you mention it I do remember being a bit frustrated at her excessive naivety. 

Her positioning and the film happening around her, despite it not being about her, is entirely the point, and she’s consciously cast aside. I found that far more interesting than what the obvious outcome would have been. Particularly with that final scene. 

PopIcon

Saw 1917 today, I liked it, but I really wanted to like it more. 
Cinematography was great, the one shot had you on the spot the whole time. The acting was good as was the tone. Real life is so much scarier than what's not real.
However, the story wasnt told very well, I wasnt gripped. I got the vibe very early on that expected plot lines would be reversed. I dont want to give any spoliers, but every move was fairly predictable from about 40 minutes.

TEL

PopIcon said:

Saw 1917 today, I liked it, but I really wanted to like it more. 
Cinematography was great, the one shot had you on the spot the whole time. The acting was good as was the tone. Real life is so much scarier than what's not real.
However, the story wasnt told very well, I wasnt gripped. I got the vibe very early on that expected plot lines would be reversed. I dont want to give any spoliers, but every move was fairly predictable from about 40 minutes.

Was a good film and I agree with most of what you said.....but overated? probably not in that category yet

i_b_b_o_r_g

The whole Fast & Furious franchise 

Big_Bad_World

Kill Bill
Pulp Fiction
Every single James Bond film
The Dark Knight

ValleyGary

Wowwwwww, The Dark Knight overrated?!!!

Henry Irving

Bedsaddick said:

This thread just winds me up . How can anybody think films like Sicario , The Dear Hunter and Once upon a time In Hollywood are overrated - Bloody weirdos ! 😉

But you don't rate Citizen Kane.

kentaddick

As a cinephile I really should’ve known this thread would’ve raised my blood pressure a bit..!

yCL_Phantom said:

The Big Lebowski

Is one of the best films ever made, simply because the first time you watch it, you think “eh, don’t know what all the fuss is about”. But it’s one of the only films that gets funnier and funnier the more times you watch it. I quote it with my colleagues all the time. 

Chunes

kentaddick said:

As a cinephile I really should’ve known this thread would’ve raised my blood pressure a bit..!

yCL_Phantom said:

The Big Lebowski

Is one of the best films ever made, simply because the first time you watch it, you think “eh, don’t know what all the fuss is about”. But it’s one of the only films that gets funnier and funnier the more times you watch it. I quote it with my colleagues all the time. 

Joo sed it mang.

Karim_myBagheri

La la land

i_b_b_o_r_g

Harry Potter