I think we’ll have enough to stay up, which would have been the dream scenario 12 months ago. there are at least 3 teams around us with worse form, throw possible points deduction for Wednesday and derby in the mix as well. Still plenty of twists this season
It's not really hypothetical is it as its almost reality. What you are really saying is are you happy that we got taken over & then relegated. To that my answer is No. We had already got promoted before ESI came along so any hypothetical should start from that basis.......otherwise my hypothetical would be would you have been happy with losing at Wembley but then being taken over by ESI.
It's not really hypothetical is it as its almost reality. What you are really saying is are you happy that we got taken over & then relegated. To that my answer is No. We had already got promoted before ESI came along so any hypothetical should start from that basis.......otherwise my hypothetical would be would you have been happy with losing at Wembley but then being taken over by ESI.
Good question, probably would have been as I never expected to go up under RD anyway, I also believe if we had have lost that day RD would still be the owner today
We go down Sunderland go up and we come back year after even stronger ....
A bit like when we got relegated from the Prem in 99, Sunderland came up in our place and we came back as Champions the following year. I like it!
Concerns about The Valley ownership are very valid. However, as long as Roland was running the club, we were definitely heading for disaster in the long term. Every change of ownership is a gamble these days and the jury is still out on ESI. Transfer window was underwhelming, and actions speak louder than good PR messages and nice tweets from the chairman. However, they've signed up Bowyer and Jackson, and kept Taylor. At this stage with Roland, he was already drafting SCP's P45, he'd sold our two best players and our squad was full of random imports from who were mostly nowhere near the standard required for the Championship (and don't get me started on Katrien).
Same sentiments as OohAaH - got my season ticket back, feel like I can properly support the team and even been in the club shop a couple of times (not that there's anything in there worth buying yet). We've got some hope back, and just for that it's worth the gamble. If this lot turn out to be a bunch of chancers then we'll chase them out, just like we did with the last guy.
definite yes. If RD still in charge and we didn't get relegated this year we definitely would next year. With Taylor/Sarr and several others out of contract, does anybody really think there would have been enough investment in the squad for next year.
No. There is no guarantee that we will come straight back up next season. Sunderland have struggled to convince with a much larger fan base and greater financial backing. Pompey, Coventry, Ipswich have failed so why would we assume we would automatically fare better? I am not sure how many of our current first team, Taylor and Cullen excepted, would be in a top three League One side. Neither of the aforementioned two will be playing League One football next year.
No. There is no guarantee that we will come straight back up next season. Sunderland have struggled to convince with a much larger fan base and greater financial backing. Pompey, Coventry, Ipswich have failed so why would we assume we would automatically fare better? I am not sure how many of our current first team, Taylor and Cullen excepted, would be in a top three League One side. Neither of the aforementioned two will be playing League One football next year.
With so few players under contract for next year, it would be a complete rebuild again, which would take time.
Thing is little legs i knew where i was with Roland.
I didn't know where I was last night.
last night you were at Hillsborough, when I saw you looked sober, though as you walked past I said' hiya Gaz', you kept on walking .. mate I was hurt that you ignored me or never heard me .. BUT as I was busting for a piss, that took priority over pursuing you for a chat ((:>)
We go down Sunderland go up and we come back year after even stronger ....
A bit like when we got relegated from the Prem in 99, Sunderland came up in our place and we came back as Champions the following year. I like it!
Concerns about The Valley ownership are very valid. However, as long as Roland was running the club, we were definitely heading for disaster in the long term. Every change of ownership is a gamble these days and the jury is still out on ESI. Transfer window was underwhelming, and actions speak louder than good PR messages and nice tweets from the chairman. However, they've signed up Bowyer and Jackson, and kept Taylor. At this stage with Roland, he was already drafting SCP's P45, he'd sold our two best players and our squad was full of random imports from who were mostly nowhere near the standard required for the Championship (and don't get me started on Katrien).
Same sentiments as OohAaH - got my season ticket back, feel like I can properly support the team and even been in the club shop a couple of times (not that there's anything in there worth buying yet). We've got some hope back, and just for that it's worth the gamble. If this lot turn out to be a bunch of chancers then we'll chase them out, just like we did with the last guy.
Yes , definitely , my Charlton morals were impacting on my Charlton fun time , since hes been gone I've been on piss a couple of times in centre circle lounge , my kids are wearing up to date Charlton kits , I'm back in Valley Gold , I go in the club shop and buy shit for the kids , we can buy food and crap at Charlton again , family members have returned to the Charlton scene , so yes I've got my Charlton mojo back and I'm loving it no matter the pain of a potential relegation and I will do a Liam Neeson on every member of ESI if they fuck it up and don't buy the lot of the Helmet .
We go down Sunderland go up and we come back year after even stronger ....
We're only 50-50 to go down anyway so we can still Gloria Gaynor it
It's nice to see a positive post from you and I 100% agree!
Thing is little legs i knew where i was with Roland.
I didn't know where I was last night.
last night you were at Hillsborough, when I saw you looked sober, though as you walked past I said' hiya Gaz', you kept on walking .. mate I was hurt that you ignored me or never heard me .. BUT as I was busting for a piss, that took priority over pursuing you for a chat ((:>)
Was that you first and only game of the season ?
Apologies Lincs, not intentional as I did not realise/heard. Id had a few before the game.
My 2nd game. I'll be at Birmingham if you're around.
With the Shitweasel, we were in a slow, painful death spiral.
If we get relegated, I will take it on the chin and look forward to promotion as a re-invigorated and united club.
Hopefully it won't come to that though.......
We weren't though. There were lots of problems, but attendances were increasing due to success on the pitch, we had the best atmosphere at away matches for years, we got promotion in front of 37000 Charlton fans and were making a decent fist of survival in the Championship
We needed a new owner, but things could have been a lot worse
Thing is little legs i knew where i was with Roland.
I didn't know where I was last night.
last night you were at Hillsborough, when I saw you looked sober, though as you walked past I said' hiya Gaz', you kept on walking .. mate I was hurt that you ignored me or never heard me .. BUT as I was busting for a piss, that took priority over pursuing you for a chat ((:>)
Was that you first and only game of the season ?
Apologies Lincs, not intentional as I did not realise/heard. Id had a few before the game.
My 2nd game. I'll be at Birmingham if you're around.
I'll be there, can't miss a weekend in sunny Brummy
Thing is little legs i knew where i was with Roland.
I didn't know where I was last night.
last night you were at Hillsborough, when I saw you looked sober, though as you walked past I said' hiya Gaz', you kept on walking .. mate I was hurt that you ignored me or never heard me .. BUT as I was busting for a piss, that took priority over pursuing you for a chat ((:>)
Most definitely yes. I'm able to attend The Valley once more and bring my 16 year old son, who has missed out on three years of supporting the club that he had started to love.
No I would not think getting rid of Roland is worth relegation. I would prefer to stay up and if that was under Roland so be it. At least we would have known what to expect on running costs and squad size. Now we are going to be relegated under owners who can not afford to buy the fixed assets and have just taken the running of the football club off his hands. So if as I guess they need other investors then relegation is going to make finding next to impossible so it will be trying pan into the fire. I hope I am wrong about the finances but do far seen nothing to reassure about that.
No I would not think getting rid of Roland is worth relegation. I would prefer to stay up and if that was under Roland so be it. At least we would have known what to expect on running costs and squad size. Now we are going to be relegated under owners who can not afford to buy the fixed assets and have just taken the running of the football club off his hands. So if as I guess they need other investors then relegation is going to make finding next to impossible so it will be trying pan into the fire. I hope I am wrong about the finances but do far seen nothing to reassure about that.
You seem to be saying that it is an inevitability that we are going to be relegated this season (despite the fact that we not in the relegation places at the moment), but under Roland we wouldn’t get relegated. This is despite the fact we were dropping like a stone in the late autumn and early winter under his regime. Had we not got rid of Roland then relegation was pretty much a nailed on certainty, if not this season, then very soon. Bowyer was only appointed as manager because he was already on the staff and cheap. When Bowyer thought that his considerable achievement in getting Charlton promoted on very scarce resources might be worth a pay rise, Roland’s first instinct was to dismiss him and hire someone to do the job on even less money.
If this question was asked of all the home supporters who turned up since he went,they would all say yes,but then wait and see what our crowds are like in div.1.I guarantee you wont get more then 12000 home supporters on average .
The hypothetical question was accepting relegation to get rid of Roland and my answer was no z I would not accept that exchange. So no I am not happy with what had happend since January from new owners.
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Let's just hope that in six months ESI buy the lot.
Anything less don't bare thinking about.
Concerns about The Valley ownership are very valid. However, as long as Roland was running the club, we were definitely heading for disaster in the long term. Every change of ownership is a gamble these days and the jury is still out on ESI. Transfer window was underwhelming, and actions speak louder than good PR messages and nice tweets from the chairman. However, they've signed up Bowyer and Jackson, and kept Taylor. At this stage with Roland, he was already drafting SCP's P45, he'd sold our two best players and our squad was full of random imports from who were mostly nowhere near the standard required for the Championship (and don't get me started on Katrien).
Same sentiments as OohAaH - got my season ticket back, feel like I can properly support the team and even been in the club shop a couple of times (not that there's anything in there worth buying yet). We've got some hope back, and just for that it's worth the gamble. If this lot turn out to be a bunch of chancers then we'll chase them out, just like we did with the last guy.
With the Shitweasel, we were in a slow, painful death spiral.
If we get relegated, I will take it on the chin and look forward to promotion as a re-invigorated and united club.
Hopefully it won't come to that though.......
Was that you first and only game of the season ?
My 2nd game. I'll be at Birmingham if you're around.
We needed a new owner, but things could have been a lot worse
I'm able to attend The Valley once more and bring my 16 year old son, who has missed out on three years of supporting the club that he had started to love.