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Hull v Charlton | Saturday 20th June |Post-match Thread
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Why do that when you can take a short corner or free kick and give the ball away within 3 seconds.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
This a million times over.JamesSeed said:Btw, great to see the old near post flick on from a corner.I’m always banging on about the fact that with our poor record at taking corners, and with so many of them not beating the first man, it might make sense to stick some there for the flick on.
I’m claiming an assist.Also, looking back at the game, now the three point euphoria has worn off, I’m a bit concerned about our lack of ability to hang onto the ball in possession. A better team might well punish us for that, and it was largely Hull’s inability to cross the ball that saw us over the line.But with Bowyer in charge we’ll probably see that worked on in training and a different display, with a different line up and formation, next Saturday. Onwards and upwards!
Those of us of a certain vintage will remember in the 70s Colin Powell floating the ball into the near post from a corner, Jimmy Giles or Les Berry flicking it on and Killer or Mike Flanagan scoring from the flick on.
It was so effective I can never understand why it is a tactic so rarely used these days.0 -
Youngsters! Alan Gilzean at Spurs was the master at the near post.killerandflash said:
I was thinking more of the George Graham Arsenal, was it Bould or Adams at the near post as they scored so many goals that wayFortune 82nd Minute said:
This a million times over.JamesSeed said:Btw, great to see the old near post flick on from a corner.I’m always banging on about the fact that with our poor record at taking corners, and with so many of them not beating the first man, it might make sense to stick some there for the flick on.
I’m claiming an assist.Also, looking back at the game, now the three point euphoria has worn off, I’m a bit concerned about our lack of ability to hang onto the ball in possession. A better team might well punish us for that, and it was largely Hull’s inability to cross the ball that saw us over the line.But with Bowyer in charge we’ll probably see that worked on in training and a different display, with a different line up and formation, next Saturday. Onwards and upwards!
Those of us of a certain vintage will remember in the 70s Colin Powell floating the ball into the near post from a corner, Jimmy Giles or Les Berry flicking it on and Killer or Mike Flanagan scoring from the flick on.
It was so effective I can never understand why it is a tactic so rarely used these days.0 -
Baffling why we started with the "alternative" set pieces, rather than only trying short corners and weird free kick routines if the normal ones aren't workingCharltonparklane said:
Why do that when you can take a short corner or free kick and give the ball away within 3 seconds.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
This a million times over.JamesSeed said:Btw, great to see the old near post flick on from a corner.I’m always banging on about the fact that with our poor record at taking corners, and with so many of them not beating the first man, it might make sense to stick some there for the flick on.
I’m claiming an assist.Also, looking back at the game, now the three point euphoria has worn off, I’m a bit concerned about our lack of ability to hang onto the ball in possession. A better team might well punish us for that, and it was largely Hull’s inability to cross the ball that saw us over the line.But with Bowyer in charge we’ll probably see that worked on in training and a different display, with a different line up and formation, next Saturday. Onwards and upwards!
Those of us of a certain vintage will remember in the 70s Colin Powell floating the ball into the near post from a corner, Jimmy Giles or Les Berry flicking it on and Killer or Mike Flanagan scoring from the flick on.
It was so effective I can never understand why it is a tactic so rarely used these days.0 -
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Very astute commentCovered End said:The 5 substitutes rule could be a great benefit to us, as we have a number of players that struggle to complete 90 minutes.
Williams, Oztumer, JFC, Aneke, Hemed, McGeady.
In some ways it is a shame that Kayal isn't available as he definitely has ability and could have benefited from the lockdown pre season as a leveller.8 -
Pretty sure it was Pearce who ended up on his arse for their second. Completely bamboozled. Purrington did also have a shocker that day for the record.RedChaser said:
Didn't Purrington or was it Pearce get roasted by a nippy winger at their place? Re Oshilaja, in the knowledge of Page's setback maybe Bowyer wanted the former to get used to the role as soon as in addition to providing better ariel cover alongside alongside Lockyer and Pearce in the absence of Sarr.ForeverAddickted said:peterreeves said:Anyone think Bows will change a winning team for QPR??
Me and my little one think one change Purrington for Oshi but LB is very hard to read.... Definitely think Cardiff will have a few changes especially with the Scum 72 hours later. BUT QPR is a must win.
Depends what Bowyer finds when he analyses QPRDazzler21 said:
I'd keep Oshilajapeterreeves said:Anyone think Bows will change a winning team for QPR??
Me and my little one think one change Purrington for Oshi but LB is very hard to read.... Definitely think Cardiff will have a few changes especially with the Scum 72 hours later. BUT QPR is a must win.
I could see us supporting the attack more though.
Dont forget that Oshilaja wasnt there because our LB's werent fit but because Bowyer noticed something about their Wingers and exploited it
If the QPR player is someone who likes to stick to the line before crossing (rather than cutting in) then it'll be much harder for Oshilaja2 -
Osayi-Samuel is an excellent winger , Pearce was covering Purrington who went AWOL . Oshilaja will have to be at his best to contain him on Saturday .3
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I think right now everyone has a lot of players who will struggle to complete 90 minutes, especially when it's warm out.Covered End said:The 5 substitutes rule could be a great benefit to us, as we have a number of players that struggle to complete 90 minutes.
Williams, Oztumer, JFC, Aneke, Hemed, McGeady.1 -
Pearce was subbed on for Purrington.sinceiwasyoung said:Osayi-Samuel is an excellent winger , Pearce was covering Purrington who went AWOL . Oshilaja will have to be at his best to contain him on Saturday .0 -
As above I agree that Keith Peacock could play a dead ball from a free kick or corner onto a sixpence.
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Maybe Alfie will mark him?sinceiwasyoung said:Osayi-Samuel is an excellent winger , Pearce was covering Purrington who went AWOL . Oshilaja will have to be at his best to contain him on Saturday .0 -
I'd get Oshilaja to give him a few kicks then sub him for Purrington when he is booked.0
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Lovely to see one of ours back in the ToTW.ForeverAddickted said:
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There's no science behind that TOTW. They probably see which defenders scored or assisted goals, and then look to see if they kept a clean sheet. I marked Lockyer above Pearce as I thought he put in a towering display and dealt with almost everything - Pearce could have had his slippers on for most of it3
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On their defensive displays, I marked it Lockyer 8, Pearce 7.5Leuth said:There's no science behind that TOTW. They probably see which defenders scored or assisted goals, and then look to see if they kept a clean sheet. I marked Lockyer above Pearce as I thought he put in a towering display and dealt with almost everything - Pearce could have had his slippers on for most of it
But then Pearce scored a CRUCIAL goal, gaining an extra point from me, leaving the final score Lockyer 8, Pearce 8.54 -
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Bristol city away he was excellent. When he came off we went to proper shit.Richard J said:
Very astute commentCovered End said:The 5 substitutes rule could be a great benefit to us, as we have a number of players that struggle to complete 90 minutes.
Williams, Oztumer, JFC, Aneke, Hemed, McGeady.
In some ways it is a shame that Kayal isn't available as he definitely has ability and could have benefited from the lockdown pre season as a leveller.If he stayed away from injuries he would have been 1st choice with Cullen in CM1 -
Pearce was a CB in a clean sheet and scored the winner.
Deserves his place for me.
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I'd forgotten about Kayal. He hasn't played for Brighton since he went back but it seems that he is fit now, as Brighton it seems wanted to extend his contract to July to cover the remaining games.CharltonByBlood said:
Bristol city away he was excellent. When he came off we went to proper shit.Richard J said:
Very astute commentCovered End said:The 5 substitutes rule could be a great benefit to us, as we have a number of players that struggle to complete 90 minutes.
Williams, Oztumer, JFC, Aneke, Hemed, McGeady.
In some ways it is a shame that Kayal isn't available as he definitely has ability and could have benefited from the lockdown pre season as a leveller.If he stayed away from injuries he would have been 1st choice with Cullen in CM
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Extended his contract at Brighton. Maybe he is coming back.killerandflash said:
I'd forgotten about Kayal. He hasn't played for Brighton since he went back but it seems that he is fit now, as Brighton it seems wanted to extend his contract to July to cover the remaining games.CharltonByBlood said:
Bristol city away he was excellent. When he came off we went to proper shit.Richard J said:
Very astute commentCovered End said:The 5 substitutes rule could be a great benefit to us, as we have a number of players that struggle to complete 90 minutes.
Williams, Oztumer, JFC, Aneke, Hemed, McGeady.
In some ways it is a shame that Kayal isn't available as he definitely has ability and could have benefited from the lockdown pre season as a leveller.If he stayed away from injuries he would have been 1st choice with Cullen in CM0 -
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51126139Redrobo said:
Extended his contract at Brighton. Maybe he is coming back.killerandflash said:
I'd forgotten about Kayal. He hasn't played for Brighton since he went back but it seems that he is fit now, as Brighton it seems wanted to extend his contract to July to cover the remaining games.CharltonByBlood said:
Bristol city away he was excellent. When he came off we went to proper shit.Richard J said:
Very astute commentCovered End said:The 5 substitutes rule could be a great benefit to us, as we have a number of players that struggle to complete 90 minutes.
Williams, Oztumer, JFC, Aneke, Hemed, McGeady.
In some ways it is a shame that Kayal isn't available as he definitely has ability and could have benefited from the lockdown pre season as a leveller.If he stayed away from injuries he would have been 1st choice with Cullen in CM
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Down to 10 points differencestonemuse said:
12 points behind you ... you never know where we might end outMillwallFan said:
That would be a dream but those smug ****’s are safe. No point getting our hopes up.CH4RLTON said:
Either that or stripy nigels get dragged down somehow. I wouldn't say 2 wins would be enough I reckon 51 points total so 9 points from a possible 24 in our remaining games should see us home and hosed.MillwallFan said:Massive result for your lot today. Another win and a draw, or even two or three draws and I reckon you’re safe. Bar Barnsley, all the teams below you are dire and won’t pick up much between now and the end of the season.Not a massive fan of Bowyer, but if he keeps you up this season, after all he’s had to endure off the pitch, then fair play to him. Huge achievement. It’ll make a good book one day.Look forward to locking horns on the 3rd of July. Although there probably won’t be much riding on it, just bragging rights (and the charity bets I had with a few on here).Here’s just praying that lot in claret and blue join us down here next season.
All the best ladsI genuinely don’t think you’ll need anything near that points total. Where do you see the likes of boro, hull or Luton getting the points to catch you if you pick up another few points? Boro and hull are beyond bad and Luton are too far behind. They’ll get a few points but not enough to catch you if you get a few more points b
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