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Hull v Charlton | Saturday 20th June |Post-match Thread
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Can’t lie, I was apprehensive as hell before the game, fearing a loss would have us with one foot (or at least a toe or two) through the relegation trapdoor so the win has calmed my nerves to a degree. Admittedly Hull were poor but three points today could be a big psychological boost to the team as we move on. Not looking beyond the next game so it’s one down, eight Cup Finals to go.7
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The problem with us is that we play good football, go a goal up and then defend for 93 mins and inevitably concede in the 92nd. Luckily it didn’t happen today, but its probably why it looks like hull played wellcafc_se7 said:
No way were they better than us! They fashioned only one decent chance and that was right at the death!PemburyAddick said:I'm surprised how critical people are of Hull as I thought they played well, and were certainly better than us. I thought we just defended our box effectively to deny them clear cut chances. Virtually every other team in the Championship has better quality players than us, but Bowyer just gets us to lift our game and keep competitive in every match. He really is an extraordinary manager for when your back is against the wall, and his organisation, tactics and game management have come on leaps and bounds.1 -
In principle I would agree with you, Golfie. Players should play in their own specialist position - that's what they've been coached all their career to do.golfaddick said:My only concern is why Purrington didn't play at LB. I knew when he joined us they said Oshileja could play right across the back line, but surely if you have a proper & fit left back then you play him. Especially as Oshilaja is right footed. Round pegs in square holes.
When I saw the back 4 defensive line up with Deji LB, I tried to look inside Bowyer's head and ask why did he do that?
It seemed to me that Bowyer expected both Eaves and Magennis to play together up front; an aerial far post threat at set pieces and serviced by their wide dangerman Wilks from the other flank ....... Deji is much stronger in the air than Purrington, plus can make powerful forward runs on the overlap.
I think you'll find Bowyer plays 'horses for courses' and he'll have a different gameplan for next Saturday's game.
Edit: I've just seen Bowyer's comments 10 minutes after posting haha1 -
Possession was only one of the stats they dominated. We played longball most of the game; they only resorted to it towards the end. We scored from a keeper error. What 4 chances did we have that troubled their keeper so?Redrobo said:
Quite well? We restricted them to long punts into the middle and one chance. We scored 1 and had 4 other chances. Possession means nothing if no end product.PemburyAddick said:I'm surprised how critical people are of Hull as I thought they played well, and were certainly better than us. I thought we just defended our box effectively to deny them clear cut chances. Virtually every other team in the Championship has better quality players than us, but Bowyer just gets us to lift our game and keep competitive in every match. He really is an extraordinary manager for when your back is against the wall, and his organisation, tactics and game management have come on leaps and bounds.
I thought they were quite good at the back, but clueless in midfield and inadequate up front. Up there with the worst team we have played all season. Look relegation fodder.2 -
Think thats harsh if people think we simply defended after getting the important goal2121 said:
The problem with us is that we play good football, go a goal up and then defend for 93 mins and inevitably concede in the 92nd. Luckily it didn’t happen today, but its probably why it looks like hull played wellcafc_se7 said:
No way were they better than us! They fashioned only one decent chance and that was right at the death!PemburyAddick said:I'm surprised how critical people are of Hull as I thought they played well, and were certainly better than us. I thought we just defended our box effectively to deny them clear cut chances. Virtually every other team in the Championship has better quality players than us, but Bowyer just gets us to lift our game and keep competitive in every match. He really is an extraordinary manager for when your back is against the wall, and his organisation, tactics and game management have come on leaps and bounds.
Thought it was smart game management from the backroom staff and players
First game back so fitness is going to be an issue - Have had to deal with the tiredness of travelling 3-hours up to Hull, something our opponents didnt have to worry about
We moved through the gears and attacked whenever there was an opening rather than playing a pressing game which would have created gaps
It also resulted in no one pulling up, to be fair neither did the Hull players
Ultimately next Saturday will be a more telling game on where we are as a team, but then QPR are going to be in the exact same boat
Reason I think Hull werent very good was the same reason we beat QPR in Powell's last game. Its great being able to make pretty passes but when they got near our box that cutting pass / cross etc. was severely lacking... They'll go into their last eight games and yeah, they can continue to make pretty passes etc. but if they continue to create nothing then they're going to get nothing from those games1 -
We had the next two best chances after our goal. There was the great move that just needed a touch and the free header that Bonne should have scored from.PemburyAddick said:
Possession was only one of the stats they dominated. We played longball most of the game; they only resorted to it towards the end. We scored from a keeper error. What 4 chances did we have that troubled their keeper so?Redrobo said:
Quite well? We restricted them to long punts into the middle and one chance. We scored 1 and had 4 other chances. Possession means nothing if no end product.PemburyAddick said:I'm surprised how critical people are of Hull as I thought they played well, and were certainly better than us. I thought we just defended our box effectively to deny them clear cut chances. Virtually every other team in the Championship has better quality players than us, but Bowyer just gets us to lift our game and keep competitive in every match. He really is an extraordinary manager for when your back is against the wall, and his organisation, tactics and game management have come on leaps and bounds.
I thought they were quite good at the back, but clueless in midfield and inadequate up front. Up there with the worst team we have played all season. Look relegation fodder.8 -
yes - 2 strikers with mageady and morgan in midfield is more attacking than i can remember from bowyer - certainly away from home - than any other time this season - its the way to gowmcf123 said:
Was it ? 3 central midfielders and a blocker at left back, with 2 defensive midfielders? 2 strikers, yes . Don’t get me wrong, I am delighted we won and it clearly worked but to call that an attacking line up is false.DOUCHER said:the starting line up was much more attacking than what bowyer had been going with before the lockdown - long may i
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Barnsley are the team to worry about catching us.10
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Cant remember if it was before the goal but you also had Oshilaja's run into the box that he should have shot fromMuttleyCAFC said:
We had the next two best chances after our goal. There was the great move that just needed a touch and the free header that Bonne should have scored from.PemburyAddick said:
Possession was only one of the stats they dominated. We played longball most of the game; they only resorted to it towards the end. We scored from a keeper error. What 4 chances did we have that troubled their keeper so?Redrobo said:
Quite well? We restricted them to long punts into the middle and one chance. We scored 1 and had 4 other chances. Possession means nothing if no end product.PemburyAddick said:I'm surprised how critical people are of Hull as I thought they played well, and were certainly better than us. I thought we just defended our box effectively to deny them clear cut chances. Virtually every other team in the Championship has better quality players than us, but Bowyer just gets us to lift our game and keep competitive in every match. He really is an extraordinary manager for when your back is against the wall, and his organisation, tactics and game management have come on leaps and bounds.
I thought they were quite good at the back, but clueless in midfield and inadequate up front. Up there with the worst team we have played all season. Look relegation fodder.
Would even add Aneke's run into the box as being a better chance than anything that Hull created1 -
I think we created the best three chances (including the goal), then there were a couple of half chances for both teams.1
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Great result, I honestly don’t think we would have dug this result out 3 months ago. So much of this is down to Bowyer. We have a very average group of players but the way he has re energized them is amazing. We are so lucky to have him. Fingers crossed it will be enough to keep us up.13
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disagree - aneke has it but just needs a run of games and a bit of faith to be shown in him - he could be a star for us if given some gamesWeegie Addick said:Well, I enjoyed that much more than expected. Empty stadium football on the TV is rubbish but strangely today didn't feel anywhere near as odd - maybe because I'm used to following on the stream and the radio-style commentary drowns out the silence.
V good performance all round. Hemed and McGeady have a bit of class about them and look much fitter. So too Morgan. After shaky start from Deji, the defence got their act together across the line, well-supported by Cullen and Pratley.
Huge credit that most players looked fully fit. Only concerns really on that score were Bonne, who just didn't click into the game, and Aneke. I'm sorry but I don't get him - he's just a big lumbering lump.
It's a great feeling when Charlton put a smile on our faces - been a while coming!
Thank you, Bow, JJ et al.
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Do you mean from the current bottom three or anyone below us?ChiAddick said:Barnsley are the team to worry about catching us.0 -
Don't look behind you; look ahead.ChiAddick said:Barnsley are the team to worry about catching us.They're 5 points behind us, with a shitty GD so make that effectively 6, with 8 games to play.Meanwhile, we can only play one game at a time. Get those 3 points and for now, it really doesn't matter what Barnsley do.So ..... which teams can we catch?10 -
A piece of Charlton history was created today:
The record books will show that a 4th Charlton substitute entered the field of play during a League match, for the first time.
Then the record was immediately broken as a 5th substitute came on to play for Charlton in a League game.
Step forward Jonny Williams and Sam Field.
You wrote a little piece of Charlton history today.
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But their keeper didn't have to save them did he.MuttleyCAFC said:
We had the next two best chances after our goal. There was the great move that just needed a touch and the free header that Bonne should have scored from.PemburyAddick said:
Possession was only one of the stats they dominated. We played longball most of the game; they only resorted to it towards the end. We scored from a keeper error. What 4 chances did we have that troubled their keeper so?Redrobo said:
Quite well? We restricted them to long punts into the middle and one chance. We scored 1 and had 4 other chances. Possession means nothing if no end product.PemburyAddick said:I'm surprised how critical people are of Hull as I thought they played well, and were certainly better than us. I thought we just defended our box effectively to deny them clear cut chances. Virtually every other team in the Championship has better quality players than us, but Bowyer just gets us to lift our game and keep competitive in every match. He really is an extraordinary manager for when your back is against the wall, and his organisation, tactics and game management have come on leaps and bounds.
I thought they were quite good at the back, but clueless in midfield and inadequate up front. Up there with the worst team we have played all season. Look relegation fodder.1 -
McGeady volleyed from the edge of the box in the first half - the keeper tipped it over the bar.PemburyAddick said:
But their keeper didn't have to save them did he.MuttleyCAFC said:
We had the next two best chances after our goal. There was the great move that just needed a touch and the free header that Bonne should have scored from.PemburyAddick said:
Possession was only one of the stats they dominated. We played longball most of the game; they only resorted to it towards the end. We scored from a keeper error. What 4 chances did we have that troubled their keeper so?Redrobo said:
Quite well? We restricted them to long punts into the middle and one chance. We scored 1 and had 4 other chances. Possession means nothing if no end product.PemburyAddick said:I'm surprised how critical people are of Hull as I thought they played well, and were certainly better than us. I thought we just defended our box effectively to deny them clear cut chances. Virtually every other team in the Championship has better quality players than us, but Bowyer just gets us to lift our game and keep competitive in every match. He really is an extraordinary manager for when your back is against the wall, and his organisation, tactics and game management have come on leaps and bounds.
I thought they were quite good at the back, but clueless in midfield and inadequate up front. Up there with the worst team we have played all season. Look relegation fodder.
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Survival is in our own hands now. If we go down it will be because we deserve it. I don’t think we will though.0
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Good result but Hull were dreadful and we made hard work of it. They didn't even press us at the end.
This will be a long eight games without someone who can score. Bonne was very rusty and Hemed did OK but never looked like scoring and never does.
More finger nail chewing ahead.2 -
To everyone who wished me well... thank you.
Mom passed 30 minutes after the match ended. Watching the thread and getting a crucial win was a great diversion from a long week.Dad passed much the same, 6 years ago. I am glad we brought her home the last week, as no visitors are allowed in hospitals right now due to Covid. Her two brothers were also in town. It’s been quite a year.We are staying up, we are staying up!!!!97 -
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I'm sorry to hear that, Napa: sorry for your loss. I'm sure many others on this forum are thinking of you. Keep strong.NapaAddick said:To everyone who wished me well... thank you.
Mom passed 30 minutes after the match ended. Watching the thread and getting a crucial win was a great diversion from a long week.Dad passed much the same, 6 years ago. I am glad we brought her home the last week, as no visitors are allowed in hospitals right now due to Covid. Her two brothers were also in town. It’s been quite a year.We are staying up, we are staying up!!!!
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It's annoying and miserable when you're losing but the stress is from potentially picking up points.Davo55 said:
Its a lot more feckin stressful when you're losingNapaAddick said:
Well that is incredibly stressful! 😂Davo55 said:
Yes @NapaAddick. During the match they show the "As it stands" table reflecting the play taking place.NapaAddick said:
Okay this is weird... when I checked the table at HT, it showed us already with 42 points. On BBC and Sky. Do they update the table DURING matches based on the scores? They never do that in sports here. I kept looking at the table and thinking... the match is not over, how are we in 19th?oohaahmortimer said:
End the season now 
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My thoughts and prayers are with you NapaAddick. May your dear Mum rest in peace.NapaAddick said:To everyone who wished me well... thank you.
Mom passed 30 minutes after the match ended. Watching the thread and getting a crucial win was a great diversion from a long week.Dad passed much the same, 6 years ago. I am glad we brought her home the last week, as no visitors are allowed in hospitals right now due to Covid. Her two brothers were also in town. It’s been quite a year.We are staying up, we are staying up!!!!3 -
Sorry to hear that mate. Rip ♥️NapaAddick said:To everyone who wished me well... thank you.
Mom passed 30 minutes after the match ended. Watching the thread and getting a crucial win was a great diversion from a long week.Dad passed much the same, 6 years ago. I am glad we brought her home the last week, as no visitors are allowed in hospitals right now due to Covid. Her two brothers were also in town. It’s been quite a year.We are staying up, we are staying up!!!!3 -
Sorry to hear about your Mum @NapaAddick but pleased that our beloved Club has helped you in this sad time.NapaAddick said:To everyone who wished me well... thank you.
Mom passed 30 minutes after the match ended. Watching the thread and getting a crucial win was a great diversion from a long week.Dad passed much the same, 6 years ago. I am glad we brought her home the last week, as no visitors are allowed in hospitals right now due to Covid. Her two brothers were also in town. It’s been quite a year.We are staying up, we are staying up!!!!
I've been there with my own parents so am thinking of you.3 -
Sorry for your loss @NapaAddick, but I'm glad the lads were able to give you a bit of light relief during what is obviously a tough time for you.
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I think the problem is Page is all too likely to get a break. Or a sprain. Or a tear.ForeverAddickted said:0 -
Thoughts with you and yours at such a difficult time @NapaAddick.2
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No one can play him until the new transfer window opens.ForeverAddickted said:
Nah Maddison is a free transfer nowWishIdStayedinthePub said:
Interesting that they appear to have lost Maddison (back to Peterborough?) and WIlkes won't extend. So they are only going to get weaker by the sound of it.killerandflash said:Low scores reflect dire nature of Hull City display against Charlton Athletic: Player ratings
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hull-city-charlton-player-ratings-4248185
Meek Hull City quietly slip into relegation zone with defeat to Charlton Atheltic
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/international-football/meek-hull-city-quietly-slip-relegation-zone-defeat-charlton-atheltic-2890516
Amusing that the Yorkshire Post misspells our name both in the headline, and the web address!0 -
Sorry to hear that Napa.1
