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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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Because the moment clubs start announcing exactly how much they've spent each year they're opening themselves up to other clubs - We announce that we've made £2m one window, try and sign someone from say Rochdale and suddenly their player that is worth £200k to one club is £500k to us because they know we've got the money to splash!!addick1956 said:
Explain why transparency is stupid. I await wit baited breath. Remember we ate not dealing with state secrets here but company balance sheets.Redrobo said:
Because it would be stupid to do so in most cases, and it is difficult to think of the advantages.addick1956 said:
Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?Oggy Red said:
Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.addick1956 said:
I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.MattF said:
Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for PurringtonOggy Red said:
I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.mattinfinland said:Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages?
He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.
Why can't there be transparecy and honesty? Opps , forgot . This is football.
I honestly dont get the fascination with wanting to know how much we've spent on players or received
Especially when you think about the wider consequences of who else will find out!!
And its not just Company Balance sheets is it? - Its the fine line between putting together a competitive squad or not4 -
For the selling club everyone knows how much you have to spend or, if you have given a player away, other clubs will start trying to pick up your players, current players in the dressing room maybe unhappy as transfer fees reflect wages and they maybe on a lot less and then want more money, players may not want the pressure of a deal that cost a lot, coaches may not want that either, a player may not want his salary out there, other creditors maybe unhappy with you spending what they will see as their money, other clubs may want similar transfer fees when you deal with them, clubs loaning players may feel unchuffed if you plead poverty and then went and spent a shed load.addick1956 said:
Explain why transparency is stupid. I await wit baited breath. Remember we ate not dealing with state secrets here but company balance sheets.Redrobo said:
Because it would be stupid to do so in most cases, and it is difficult to think of the advantages.addick1956 said:
Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?Oggy Red said:
Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.addick1956 said:
I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.MattF said:
Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for PurringtonOggy Red said:
I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.mattinfinland said:Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages?
He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.
Why can't there be transparecy and honesty? Opps , forgot . This is football.
Your turn, please list the advantages.4 -
Best answer to it... How would you feel if you and a colleague start the same job at the exact same time with the same experience etc.Redrobo said:
For the selling club everyone knows how much you have to spend or, if you have given a player away, other clubs will start trying to pick up your players, current players in the dressing room maybe unhappy as transfer fees reflect wages and they maybe on a lot less and then want more money, players may not want the pressure of a deal that cost a lot, coaches may not want that either, a player may not want his salary out there, other creditors maybe unhappy with you spending what they will see as their money, other clubs may want similar transfer fees when you deal with them, clubs loaning players may feel unchuffed if you plead poverty and then went and spent a shed load.addick1956 said:
Explain why transparency is stupid. I await wit baited breath. Remember we ate not dealing with state secrets here but company balance sheets.Redrobo said:
Because it would be stupid to do so in most cases, and it is difficult to think of the advantages.addick1956 said:
Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?Oggy Red said:
Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.addick1956 said:
I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.MattF said:
Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for PurringtonOggy Red said:
I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.mattinfinland said:Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages?
He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.
Why can't there be transparecy and honesty? Opps , forgot . This is football.
Your turn, please list the advantages.
Yet he earns £2k per year more than you... How is that going to make you feel?1 -
Maybe, Large .... that could be right?LargeAddick said:
Didn’t it say recently somewhere that we paid £61k for Purrington.addick1956 said:
I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.MattF said:
Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for PurringtonOggy Red said:
I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.mattinfinland said:Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages?
I read somewhere it was around £75k ...... but £61k is still in that ball-park figure, and in football transfer terms not a lot of difference.0 -
Not about lack of transparency.addick1956 said:
Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?Oggy Red said:
Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.addick1956 said:
I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.MattF said:
Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for PurringtonOggy Red said:
I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.mattinfinland said:Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages?
He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.
Why can't there be transparecy and honesty? Opps , forgot . This is football.
I remembered reading it somewhere, but couldn't remember the source.
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I really like and rate Dillon but am resigned to losing him. However Amos seems OK, and AMB deputising and I also rate the up and coming Harness. And there is Osaghae coming through too who has promise.4
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Received a text from Chelsea mate, who reckons we are getting Ian Maatsen in (left back 18 years old and rated).25
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Agreed. Amos was great for us during his loan spell and seems to be growing in confidence in recent games. Certainly no qualms from me if he retains the number 1 spot and Phillips goes. If only we had the quality of strikers in recent years that we've had keepers as its the one area that always we've been pretty strong. Thuram aside of course.seth plum said:I really like and rate Dillon but am resigned to losing him. However Amos seems OK, and AMB deputising and I also rate the up and coming Harness. And there is Osaghae coming through too who has promise.1 -
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3 days to go, 3 or 4 players needed & not even that many rumours about. It's all very quiet
Someone make some up please1 -
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Bubble said:
Don't know much about him as a player but remember he was jailed while on loan at Southend.8 -
It doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I think we're struggling to bring people in. It's all very well repeating "In LB we trust" but if the players aren't there that we can afford under the wage cap then we're fucked. Something else to thank the criminals for. We need to hope for some decent loans & possibly there'll be some out of contract players available after the window shuts who are holding out for more than we can pay them at the moment but will lower their demands when they find themselves without a club.dickplumb said:Listening to the Steve Gallen interview, what he says doesn't fill me with confidence. He says they hope to bring in a couple of new signings. Lee Bowyer has stated he wants three loans and one permanent.
Where is the Gallen interview Dick ?0 -
I once worked for a firm in the City. Joined in the summer of 1988. Speaking to someone who joined the same time as me, similar age & experience, I found out I was on £2kpa more than he was (I negotiated a better deal because the Company I left had given me a mortgage subsidy and so I needed the extra cash). No ill feeling at all.ForeverAddickted said:
Best answer to it... How would you feel if you and a colleague start the same job at the exact same time with the same experience etc.Redrobo said:
For the selling club everyone knows how much you have to spend or, if you have given a player away, other clubs will start trying to pick up your players, current players in the dressing room maybe unhappy as transfer fees reflect wages and they maybe on a lot less and then want more money, players may not want the pressure of a deal that cost a lot, coaches may not want that either, a player may not want his salary out there, other creditors maybe unhappy with you spending what they will see as their money, other clubs may want similar transfer fees when you deal with them, clubs loaning players may feel unchuffed if you plead poverty and then went and spent a shed load.addick1956 said:
Explain why transparency is stupid. I await wit baited breath. Remember we ate not dealing with state secrets here but company balance sheets.Redrobo said:
Because it would be stupid to do so in most cases, and it is difficult to think of the advantages.addick1956 said:
Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?Oggy Red said:
Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.addick1956 said:
I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.MattF said:
Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for PurringtonOggy Red said:
I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.mattinfinland said:Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages?
He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.
Why can't there be transparecy and honesty? Opps , forgot . This is football.
Your turn, please list the advantages.
Yet he earns £2k per year more than you... How is that going to make you feel?
Also in football wages are generally determined by the experience & skill of the player - and what is negotiated by them or their agent. Or do you think all players should be paid the same ?0 -
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God thats what you call a journeyman player who has spent his entire career @ Palace and has just kept going on loan!!Bubble said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Inniss
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Bubble said:
That's an interesting one, I once played against him in a school game years ago when we both must have been about 15. I went up for a corner and he was marking me so to try and put me of he kept pinching my ass along with a few other dirty tactics lol.17 -
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6'5" so he's at least tall enough2
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Last left back we had on loan from Chelsea wasn't too shabby6
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-37342625
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50269436
At least he'll put some bite into the defence.
And he lives in Beckenham2 -
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I always get the shivers when we're linked with a Palace player these days
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When you read about Inniss, he doesn't actually sound like a bad lad, pretty sure Palace would have got rid of him sooner if he were:
Inniss had a troubled childhood, as his mother's drug dependency and his father's imprisonment left him to raise his two younger siblings as a teenager.
He has three police cautions:
one for a public order offence in 2011,
one for common assault in August 2015 and
one for being drunk and disorderly and resisting a police constable in March 2015.
On 9 September 2016, Inniss pleaded guilty to assault following an incident in a bar four months earlier; he was sentenced to 14 weeks in prison. He was released three days later after successfully appealing his sentence, which was suspended for 18 months; he was also handed 240 hours unpaid work, a £300 fine, and ordered to take part in a 20-day alcohol rehabilitation course.
Seems to be struggling as a result of his terrible upbringing and childhood being stolen by forced parental duties for his siblings... Given all his struggles he has managed to stay at Palace and earn loans at decent levels.If Bowyer and Gallen think he's good enough and can manage him, then in them we must trust.
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Ryan Inniss isn't a gentle giant like Naby.
He has had a troubled life off the pitch and at 25 and being out on 10 loans from Palace needs an opportunity to show the talent that saw him rewarded with England schoolboy internationals at 15 and 16.
We have been too soft and too small for a while. Ryan would need believing in and supporting but he is at the last chance saloon after the biting incident.
Could be a cult hero if this free transfer happens.17
