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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited October 2020
    Redrobo said:
    Oggy Red said:
    MattF said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages? 
    I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.


    Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for Purrington 
    I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.
    Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.

    He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.




    Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?

    Why can't there be transparecy and honesty?  Opps , forgot . This is football. 
    Because it would be stupid to do so in most cases, and it is difficult to think of the advantages.
    Explain why transparency is stupid. I await wit baited breath. Remember  we ate not dealing with state secrets here but company balance sheets. 
    Because the moment clubs start announcing exactly how much they've spent each year they're opening themselves up to other clubs - We announce that we've made £2m one window, try and sign someone from say Rochdale and suddenly their player that is worth £200k to one club is £500k to us because they know we've got the money to splash!!

    I honestly dont get the fascination with wanting to know how much we've spent on players or received

    Especially when you think about the wider consequences of who else will find out!!

    And its not just Company Balance sheets is it? - Its the fine line between putting together a competitive squad or not
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Redrobo said:
    Oggy Red said:
    MattF said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages? 
    I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.


    Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for Purrington 
    I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.
    Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.

    He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.




    Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?

    Why can't there be transparecy and honesty?  Opps , forgot . This is football. 
    Because it would be stupid to do so in most cases, and it is difficult to think of the advantages.
    Explain why transparency is stupid. I await wit baited breath. Remember  we ate not dealing with state secrets here but company balance sheets. 
    For the selling club everyone knows how much you have to spend or, if you have given a player away, other clubs will start trying to pick up your players, current players in the dressing room maybe unhappy as transfer fees reflect wages and they maybe on a lot less and then want more money, players may not want the pressure of a deal that cost a lot, coaches may not want that either, a player may not want his salary out there, other creditors maybe unhappy with you spending what they will see as their money, other clubs may want similar transfer fees when you deal with them, clubs loaning players may feel unchuffed if you plead poverty and then went and spent a shed load.

    Your turn, please list the advantages.
  • Redrobo said:
    Redrobo said:
    Oggy Red said:
    MattF said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages? 
    I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.


    Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for Purrington 
    I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.
    Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.

    He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.




    Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?

    Why can't there be transparecy and honesty?  Opps , forgot . This is football. 
    Because it would be stupid to do so in most cases, and it is difficult to think of the advantages.
    Explain why transparency is stupid. I await wit baited breath. Remember  we ate not dealing with state secrets here but company balance sheets. 
    For the selling club everyone knows how much you have to spend or, if you have given a player away, other clubs will start trying to pick up your players, current players in the dressing room maybe unhappy as transfer fees reflect wages and they maybe on a lot less and then want more money, players may not want the pressure of a deal that cost a lot, coaches may not want that either, a player may not want his salary out there, other creditors maybe unhappy with you spending what they will see as their money, other clubs may want similar transfer fees when you deal with them, clubs loaning players may feel unchuffed if you plead poverty and then went and spent a shed load.

    Your turn, please list the advantages.
    Best answer to it... How would you feel if you and a colleague start the same job at the exact same time with the same experience etc.

    Yet he earns £2k per year more than you... How is that going to make you feel?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    MattF said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages? 
    I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.


    Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for Purrington 
    I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.
    Didn’t it say recently somewhere that we paid £61k for Purrington.
    Maybe, Large .... that could be right?

    I read somewhere it was around £75k ...... but £61k is still in that ball-park figure, and in football transfer terms not a lot of difference.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Oggy Red said:
    MattF said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages? 
    I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.


    Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for Purrington 
    I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.
    Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.

    He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.




    Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?

    Why can't there be transparecy and honesty?  Opps , forgot . This is football. 
    Not about lack of transparency.

    I remembered reading it somewhere, but couldn't remember the source.



  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I really like and rate Dillon but am resigned to losing him. However Amos seems OK, and AMB deputising and I also rate the up and coming Harness. And there is Osaghae coming through too who has promise.
  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,483
    RedJohn said:
    Received a text from Chelsea mate, who reckons we are getting Ian Maatsen in (left back 18 years old and rated).
    A last a rumour 👍👍
  • jondon76
    jondon76 Posts: 294
    cazo said:
    RedJohn said:
    Received a text from Chelsea mate, who reckons we are getting Ian Maatsen in (left back 18 years old and rated).
    A last a rumour 👍👍
    Thought he was going to Reading. 
  • seth plum said:
    I really like and rate Dillon but am resigned to losing him. However Amos seems OK, and AMB deputising and I also rate the up and coming Harness. And there is Osaghae coming through too who has promise.
    Agreed. Amos was great for us during his loan spell and seems to be growing in confidence in recent games. Certainly no qualms from me if he retains the number 1 spot and Phillips goes. If only we had the quality of strikers in recent years that we've had keepers as its the one area that always we've been pretty strong. Thuram aside of course. 
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  • 3 days to go, 3 or 4 players needed & not even that many rumours about. It's all very quiet

    Someone make some up please
  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,541

  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    RedJohn said:
    Received a text from Chelsea mate, who reckons we are getting Ian Maatsen in (left back 18 years old and rated).
    Last young left back we had on loan from Chelsea worked out very well with DaSilva. Hopefully he's that calibre. 
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    Bubble said:


    Don't know much about him as a player but remember he was jailed while on loan at Southend. 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,259
    dickplumb said:
    Listening to the Steve Gallen interview, what he says doesn't fill me with confidence. He says they hope to bring in a couple of new signings. Lee Bowyer has stated he wants three loans and one permanent.


    It doesn't surprise me in the slightest, I think we're struggling to bring people in. It's all very well repeating "In LB we trust" but if the players aren't there that we can afford under the wage cap then we're fucked. Something else to thank the criminals for. We need to hope for some decent loans & possibly there'll be some out of contract players available after the window shuts who are holding out for more than we can pay them at the moment but will lower their demands when they find themselves without a club.
    Where is the Gallen interview Dick ?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    edited October 2020
    Redrobo said:
    Redrobo said:
    Oggy Red said:
    MattF said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Interesting that we haven't brought anyone and all our signings have been unattached, can only assume the 2m from Bonne has gone towards wages? 
    I believe for signing Alex Gilbey we paid a fee to MK Dons ..... who said at the time they were willing to sell, because of Covid disruption they needed the money.


    Didn't it come out recently that there was no fee paid for Gilbey, and we got him because they needed him off the wage bill. Pretty sure it was in the SLP that including Bonne our squad cost £275k, £200k for Bonne and the rest for Purrington 
    I thought Purrington cost Rotherham £200,000 from Plymouth and we paid Rotherham the same or £300,000 for him.
    Rotherham signed Purrington on a 3 and a half year contract.

    He had a year left on his Rotherham contract when he signed permanently for us. It's thought that we paid pro-rata the value of his remaining contract after amortisation: around £75k.




    Why are we reduced to phrases like "It is thought that we paid" or " I heard we paid" ?

    Why can't there be transparecy and honesty?  Opps , forgot . This is football. 
    Because it would be stupid to do so in most cases, and it is difficult to think of the advantages.
    Explain why transparency is stupid. I await wit baited breath. Remember  we ate not dealing with state secrets here but company balance sheets. 
    For the selling club everyone knows how much you have to spend or, if you have given a player away, other clubs will start trying to pick up your players, current players in the dressing room maybe unhappy as transfer fees reflect wages and they maybe on a lot less and then want more money, players may not want the pressure of a deal that cost a lot, coaches may not want that either, a player may not want his salary out there, other creditors maybe unhappy with you spending what they will see as their money, other clubs may want similar transfer fees when you deal with them, clubs loaning players may feel unchuffed if you plead poverty and then went and spent a shed load.

    Your turn, please list the advantages.
    Best answer to it... How would you feel if you and a colleague start the same job at the exact same time with the same experience etc.

    Yet he earns £2k per year more than you... How is that going to make you feel?
    I once worked for a firm in the City. Joined in the summer of 1988. Speaking to someone who joined the same time as me, similar age & experience, I found out I was on £2kpa more than he was (I negotiated a better deal because the Company I left had given me a mortgage subsidy and so I needed the extra cash). No ill feeling at all. 

    Also in football wages are generally determined by the experience & skill of the player - and what is negotiated by them or their agent. Or do you think all players should be paid the same ?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225

    West Brom are closing in on the signing of Karlan Grant from Huddersfield Town with talks at an advanced stage between both clubs. #WBAFC #htafc
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,319
    edited October 2020
    Bubble said:

    God thats what you call a journeyman player who has spent his entire career @ Palace and has just kept going on loan!!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Inniss
  • Bubble said:


    That's an interesting one, I once played against him in a school game years ago when we both must have been about 15. I went up for a corner and he was marking me so to try and put me of he kept pinching my ass along with a few other dirty tactics lol. 
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  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797

  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    6'5" so he's at least tall enough
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,269
    Last left back we had on loan from Chelsea wasn't too shabby
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-37342625

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50269436

    At least he'll put some bite into the defence.

    And he lives in Beckenham
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Bubble said:

    Only 6 foot 5" not sure he passes height test for a left back!
  • CH4RLTON said:
    Bubble said:

    Only 6 foot 5" not sure he passes height test for a left back!
    That's fine because he's a centre back
  • I always get the shivers when we're linked with a Palace player these days
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    When you read about Inniss, he doesn't actually sound like a bad lad, pretty sure Palace would have got rid of him sooner if he were:

    Inniss had a troubled childhood, as his mother's drug dependency and his father's imprisonment left him to raise his two younger siblings as a teenager. 

    He has three police cautions: 
    one for a public order offence in 2011, 
    one for common assault in August 2015 and 
    one for being drunk and disorderly and resisting a police constable in March 2015.

    On 9 September 2016, Inniss pleaded guilty to assault following an incident in a bar four months earlier; he was sentenced to 14 weeks in prison. He was released three days later after successfully appealing his sentence, which was suspended for 18 months; he was also handed 240 hours unpaid work, a £300 fine, and ordered to take part in a 20-day alcohol rehabilitation course.

    Seems to be struggling as a result of his terrible upbringing and childhood being stolen by forced parental duties for his siblings... Given all his struggles he has managed to stay at Palace and earn loans at decent levels. 


    If Bowyer and Gallen think he's good enough and can manage him, then in them we must trust. 


  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited October 2020
    Ryan Inniss isn't a gentle giant like Naby.

    He has had a troubled life off the pitch and at 25 and being out on 10 loans from Palace needs an opportunity to show the talent that saw him rewarded with England schoolboy internationals at 15 and 16.

    We have been too soft and too small for a while. Ryan would need believing in and supporting but he is at the last chance saloon after the biting incident.

    Could be a cult hero if this free transfer happens.