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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • Feel sorry for Smyth already.  He hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet & a lot of you are writing him off as useless already..

    Ridiculous
    Nobody is writing him off as useless

    The disappointment is that Smyth isn't the type of player many of us wanted, which is someone who plays up top as a goal poacher, whether an experienced lower division pro or a PL academy player.

    After we could have signed 2 left backs today, both top players, but it wouldn't be what the squad needed

    I can understand the difficulties of getting a striker in, and suspect we'll be trying again in January
  • Are non league signings still governed by the 5pm window?
    Non-League teams dont have a window so far as I'm aware

    So we can send Morgan | Vennings | Davison to the Conference etc. whenever we want for as long a loan spell as we want
    So, can we sign Thomas outside of the window, is it different
    in non league?
    Nope only works one way as our Window closes in eight minutes
    We can sign him when ever we like, he can't play for us until the window reopens though. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Are non league signings still governed by the 5pm window?
    Non-League teams dont have a window so far as I'm aware

    So we can send Morgan | Vennings | Davison to the Conference etc. whenever we want for as long a loan spell as we want
    So, can we sign Thomas outside of the window, is it different
    in non league?
    Nope only works one way as our Window closes in eight minutes
    We can sign him when ever we like, he can't play for us until the window reopens though. 
    Hardly a long wait.
  • edited October 2020
    Washington, Bogle, Aneke and even Davsion. That's a more than adequate League One strikeforce.

    We've now got a midfield (with depth) that can create and score themselves.

    It's been a bloody good window.
  • We'd all love a 20 goal a season man, but having one is not essential. We got promoted with 73 goals (excluding the play-offs) last time in League 1, which was actually the lowest total in the top 6 despite us having, in Taylor, Grant and Vetokele (albeit two of those not for the entire season) three of the most talented strikers in the division.

    The key is we have to get better at getting our midfielders on the score sheet, and I think that will require us to play a bit differently (maybe Bowyer needs to allow a few more shots from range for example). Set pieces could be important for us too, but we now have decent dead ball delivery in the team and a good amount of height, plus we've actually been quite good from set pieces anyway in terms of number of goals scored thanks to Jacko's coaching. It's obviously hypothetical, but I don't think it would be unrealistic to say the goals could be shared around as follows and that would get us to 73 same as in 18/19. Our defence and midfield look very decent so we shouldn't concede a ton, just expect us to be winning more games 2-1 and 2-0 than 3-1 and 4-0, but that has generally been the way under Bowyer. With the departures this week and Phillips potentially being frozen out, there may be a little wriggle room to do something in January as well if the right player were to become available.

    Bogle 12
    Washington 10
    Maddison 10
    Doughty 10
    Aneke 8
    Smyth 5
    Shinnie 3
    Gilbey 3
    Pratley 2
    Levitt 1
    Morgan  1
    Williams 1
    Watson 1
    JFC 1
    Innis 2
    Pearce 1
    Famewo 1
    Purrington  1


  • No chance of promotion this year. Consolidate and big push next season.
  • I’d really like to see Davidson get a go this season, there’s a gem in there
    We haven't signed Davidson ;)
  • Dazzler21 said:
    I’d really like to see Davidson get a go this season, there’s a gem in there
    We haven't signed Davidson ;)
    He means Jim Davidson.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    So fit to play signings in a formation:

    Amos
    Gunter - Inniss - Famewo - Maatsen
    Watson
    Maddison     -         Smyth
    Shinnie
    Bogle - Washington

    I could walk past all of these and not recognise any of them. 
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  • Only 10 weeks until we can sign Messi when we’re chasing the top 2...
  • 5.01 and nothing about Doughty
  • No chance of promotion this year. Consolidate and big push next season.
    As much chance as anyone else in this league after 4 games :)
  • Phillips rumoured to be off
  • Who knows how these things work. Bowyer said he's tried to sign Smyth 3 times.

    So QPR come in for Bonne and don't offer Smyth as part of the deal, knowing full well Bowyer fancies him?

    Odd.

  • Ahh, I mean Davison. There’s already one to many Davidson’s associated with Charlton 
  • Too late for that now!

    Only thing we can dip in now is free transfers, of which there is a lot of talent still floating about
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  • Reckon it's safe enough now to get the F5 button on my keyboard replaced
  • Who knows how these things work. Bowyer said he's tried to sign Smyth 3 times.

    So QPR come in for Bonne and don't offer Smyth as part of the deal, knowing full well Bowyer fancies him?

    Odd.

    Really good question is that
  • edited October 2020
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  • Dazzler21 said:
    A midfield five of Watson, Gilbey, Shinnie, Doughty, Maddison... pretty, pretty, pretty good. 
    I assume you're thinking that they will just pass the ball between them for 90 mins as there will be no-one in front of them to pass to........
    Bogle, Aneke, Washington, Davison

    People writing off these forwards with no idea how they'll score without service. 

    Any striker without service will struggle. That was a big part of our problem last season.

    If the midfield can chip in with goals too we'll do well and be in/around where Bow wants us... 
    I’m assuming they have been without service throughout their careers then. I’m struggling to see how selling Bonne was a good idea.
  • Check your watch 
    The two that signed today signed this morning and trained with us. 
  • All these people complaining about who we have up top, I wonder what they said about Yann (who granted wasn't massively prolific and was a great foil for BWP, but was a fantastic footballer anyway)
  • Exactly. Big difference between when deals happen & when they are announced. Sky will be publishing deals all evening that officially were papered before 5pm but have hit the media hours later.
  • edited October 2020
    Who knows how these things work. Bowyer said he's tried to sign Smyth 3 times.

    So QPR come in for Bonne and don't offer Smyth as part of the deal, knowing full well Bowyer fancies him?

    Odd.



    Because Smyth wasn't our first choice.
    He could be great at Cafc but Sorba may well have been the first option ? 


  • sam3110 said:
    Too late for that now!

    Only thing we can dip in now is free transfers, of which there is a lot of talent still floating about
    Nah, we have done some great business today. Doughty May have signed as well. Save any money for January in case we need reinforcements. 
  • We'd all love a 20 goal a season man, but having one is not essential. We got promoted with 73 goals (excluding the play-offs) last time in League 1, which was actually the lowest total in the top 6 despite us having, in Taylor, Grant and Vetokele (albeit two of those not for the entire season) three of the most talented strikers in the division.

    The key is we have to get better at getting our midfielders on the score sheet, and I think that will require us to play a bit differently (maybe Bowyer needs to allow a few more shots from range for example). Set pieces could be important for us too, but we now have decent dead ball delivery in the team and a good amount of height, plus we've actually been quite good from set pieces anyway in terms of number of goals scored thanks to Jacko's coaching. It's obviously hypothetical, but I don't think it would be unrealistic to say the goals could be shared around as follows and that would get us to 73 same as in 18/19. Our defence and midfield look very decent so we shouldn't concede a ton, just expect us to be winning more games 2-1 and 2-0 than 3-1 and 4-0, but that has generally been the way under Bowyer. With the departures this week and Phillips potentially being frozen out, there may be a little wriggle room to do something in January as well if the right player were to become available.

    Bogle 12
    Washington 10
    Maddison 10
    Doughty 10
    Aneke 8
    Smyth 5
    Shinnie 3
    Gilbey 3
    Pratley 2
    Levitt 1
    Morgan  1
    Williams 1
    Watson 1
    JFC 1
    Innis 2
    Pearce 1
    Famewo 1
    Purrington  1


    Those are realistic numbers, as I don't see a prolific goalscorer in the squad. 2 years ago we had better CB options though, Bauer, Sarr and a younger Pearce were all experienced players of Championship quality. Plus we had Bielik who sometimes played there

    This year we have Pearce (2 years older), Deji (L1 quality), Famewo (class but inexperienced) and Inniss (unproven)
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