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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • If he does well next few months there may well be a few clubs in for him.  If he doesn't then we won't look back so BW may be able to drive up the price with a bidding war.  Good luck to them.
  • Chunes said:
    MattF said:
    Chunes said:
    Surprised Boreham Wood stood in the young player's way from joining us in the first place
    Reading between the lines from both Boreham Wood statements we offered less than their value and walked away instead of negotiating the price, maybe they felt we were taking the piss a bit or vice versa
    I suppose I'm biased but I thought their statement sounded like they were a bunch of twats
    Think I agree. Not sure about this: "we hope all parties are happy, as everyone needs to accept that our little club also has it’s own dreams and ambitions and just like Sorba, we also dream about playing in the EFL one day."

    I'd be annoyed reading that if I was the player
  • edited October 2020
    Am I right in thinking Schwartz only signed for the Danish top flight side midtjylland in January and has scored very few goals for them?

    He got a fair few for his previous club Silkeborg, but they are in the league below
    Silkeborg got relegated from the Danish top flight last season. They are a bit of a yo-yo club to be honest. 

    Schwartz’s scoring record with them was very decent. He’s not had much of a look in with FCM though. 
  • edited October 2020
    Chunes said:
    MattF said:
    Chunes said:
    Surprised Boreham Wood stood in the young player's way from joining us in the first place
    Reading between the lines from both Boreham Wood statements we offered less than their value and walked away instead of negotiating the price, maybe they felt we were taking the piss a bit or vice versa
    I suppose I'm biased but I thought their statement sounded like they were a bunch of twats
    Think I agree. Not sure about this: "we hope all parties are happy, as everyone needs to accept that our little club also has it’s own dreams and ambitions and just like Sorba, we also dream about playing in the EFL one day."

    I'd be annoyed reading that if I was the player
    Yep. Also this: "I’ve asked my Chief Exec Charlie Hunter to write up our heads of terms for any interested clubs, and in this climate that will include a sensible staged payment arrangement, to help the player fulfil his EFL aspirations but it will also include a wide range of add on’s."

    Just odd to put that in a statement.
  • Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    MattF said:
    Chunes said:
    Surprised Boreham Wood stood in the young player's way from joining us in the first place
    Reading between the lines from both Boreham Wood statements we offered less than their value and walked away instead of negotiating the price, maybe they felt we were taking the piss a bit or vice versa
    I suppose I'm biased but I thought their statement sounded like they were a bunch of twats
    Think I agree. Not sure about this: "we hope all parties are happy, as everyone needs to accept that our little club also has it’s own dreams and ambitions and just like Sorba, we also dream about playing in the EFL one day."

    I'd be annoyed reading that if I was the player
    Yep. Also this: "I’ve asked my Chief Exec Charlie Hunter to write up our heads of terms for any interested clubs, and in this climate that will include a sensible staged payment arrangement, to help the player fulfil his EFL aspirations but it will also include a wide range of add on’s."

    Just odd to put that in a statement.
    I'd guess a lot of that is for the benefit of their supporters, sort of things we might be wondering in their position 
  • Boreham Wood sound desperate.
  • Oggy Red said:
    Scoham said:
    Oggy Red said:
    We've got no number 1 ....... or number 9.

    Was number 9 meant to be for Rocket Ronnie Schwartz, I wonder?

    Perhaps there's a sign on the dressing room door:  "Vacancy. Please apply within".


    I wonder if there's any budget left for a free agent...
    That's exactly what I was implying.


    Yes said this previously, hopefully there's a decent striker out there who was hoping for a championship move at the last moment who would now accept a wage cap salary in league 1 until the end of the season.
  • They sound like a club that tried to incite a bidding war and in the end were left empty handed. I suspect they really need the money and therefore unless another team comes in and outbids us, we'll go back in for him
  • They’ve got to go without the transfer money till the new year now though. 
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  • Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Sorba is a winger
  • edited October 2020
    Seems like Boreham Wood put out another statement the other day. Missed this. They seem to be accusing us of something.

    “After a leaked article was anonymously put into the public domain yesterday and after much speculation that Charlton Athletic had made an offer for Wood fans favourite Sorba Thomas, the club can now publicly state, that Charlton have in fact made a bid,” said the National League side in a statement on their website. “But their kind offer falls a bit short of the club’s valuation of the player, which they were made very aware of that before making their offer in writing.

    “We have out of respect to both Charlton Athletic, Steve Gallen and of course the player, reiterated our asking price to Charlton by detailing what would trigger our acceptance and we have also stated that we are very happy to take payments in stages to assist the player securing his move into the EFL.
    “It’s very unfortunate that Sorbs was advised to pull out of our league game at King’s Lynn on Tuesday, to perhaps force through a move, but as my mother used to say, youth is wasted on the young. That said, as a smaller club we must stand up to that type of behaviour and orchestrated bullying."
  • They are trying to start a bidding war and that’s how I read the original statement, mentioning all the other clubs linked however it seems we are the only club to make an offer. I hope we go back in for him and agree something in the meantime however not holding my breathe. 
  • Chunes said:
    Seems like Boreham Wood put out another statement the other day. Missed this. They seem to be accusing us of something.

    “After a leaked article was anonymously put into the public domain yesterday and after much speculation that Charlton Athletic had made an offer for Wood fans favourite Sorba Thomas, the club can now publicly state, that Charlton have in fact made a bid,” said the National League side in a statement on their website. “But their kind offer falls a bit short of the club’s valuation of the player, which they were made very aware of that before making their offer in writing.

    “We have out of respect to both Charlton Athletic, Steve Gallen and of course the player, reiterated our asking price to Charlton by detailing what would trigger our acceptance and we have also stated that we are very happy to take payments in stages to assist the player securing his move into the EFL.
    “It’s very unfortunate that Sorbs was advised to pull out of our league game at King’s Lynn on Tuesday, to perhaps force through a move, but as my mother used to say, youth is wasted on the young. That said, as a smaller club we must stand up to that type of behaviour and orchestrated bullying."
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/4073794/#Comment_4073794
  • RedRobin said:
    They are trying to start a bidding war and that’s how I read the original statement, mentioning all the other clubs linked however it seems we are the only club to make an offer. I hope we go back in for him and agree something in the meantime however not holding my breathe. 
    Ultimately if they agree with our price then there’s a deal to be done but I suspect Gallen and Sandgaard won’t be bid up to a number past what they think he’s worth. If that means he goes elsewhere so be it.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
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  • Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
    I heard if you have an opinion these days AFKA comes round and kicks out your brake lights
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
    Of course you are, but maybe on occasion it could have a positive spin on it.

    I am certain that you don't do it on purpose but your comments and your marks on the player marks thread are often fair or dare I say it generous, which is confusing when your general other posts seem increasingly negative. 

    Apologies for calling you out, but it is starting to feel like your angle is very much the opposite of whatever the club does.

    I'd hoped we would see more positivity in general since the ESI ownership debacle was resolved, but no matter the ownership scenario many seem to demand instant success and spending, even when it is illogical.

  • Chunes said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
    Sorry golfie but if we signed an unproven non-league nobody over Paul Smyth, who won Supporters Young Player of the Year in the Championship, was part of a league one promotion-winning side last year, and was wanted by LB & SG for the past three transfer windows, you would 100% be frothing at the mouth
    To be fair, I'd have probably been more excited by the signing of Sorba than Smyth

    A permanent signing, rather than relying on loanees for a start, and with non league players there's always the thought of discovering a gem, whereas Smyth is a known quantity in terms of his league form

    To be honest I'm slightly puzzled that LB & SG were so excited by Smyth that they wanted to sign him when we were in the Championship, when QPR didn't think he was good enough at that level
  • edited October 2020
    Chunes said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
    Sorry golfie but if we signed an unproven non-league nobody over Paul Smyth, who won Supporters Young Player of the Year in the Championship, was part of a league one promotion-winning side last year, and was wanted by LB & SG for the past three transfer windows, you would 100% be frothing at the mouth
    To be fair, I'd have probably been more excited by the signing of Sorba than Smyth

    A permanent signing, rather than relying on loanees for a start, and with non league players there's always the thought of discovering a gem, whereas Smyth is a known quantity in terms of his league form

    To be honest I'm slightly puzzled that LB & SG were so excited by Smyth that they wanted to sign him when we were in the Championship, when QPR didn't think he was good enough at that level
    Bit of a difference between being excited or thinking one is a "a better bet" though. 

    I suppose LB & SG did think he was good enough. A bit like when we picked up Danny Mills from Norwich reserves. Or Kermorgant from Leicester. Can't always go by what other clubs think. 
  • Chunes said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
    Sorry golfie but if we signed an unproven non-league nobody over Paul Smyth, who won Supporters Young Player of the Year in the Championship, was part of a league one promotion-winning side last year, and was wanted by LB & SG for the past three transfer windows, you would 100% be frothing at the mouth
    To be fair, I'd have probably been more excited by the signing of Sorba than Smyth

    A permanent signing, rather than relying on loanees for a start, and with non league players there's always the thought of discovering a gem, whereas Smyth is a known quantity in terms of his league form

    To be honest I'm slightly puzzled that LB & SG were so excited by Smyth that they wanted to sign him when we were in the Championship, when QPR didn't think he was good enough at that level
    Although we signed Leko and Field last season from West Brom, another Championship club ....... 2 players that did well for us.

    I saw that West Brom thought they were 2 young players who would getter better experience playing regularly in another club's 1st team, rather than on the fringes of their own squad.
  • Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
    Sorry golfie but if we signed an unproven non-league nobody over Paul Smyth, who won Supporters Young Player of the Year in the Championship, was part of a league one promotion-winning side last year, and was wanted by LB & SG for the past three transfer windows, you would 100% be frothing at the mouth
    To be fair, I'd have probably been more excited by the signing of Sorba than Smyth

    A permanent signing, rather than relying on loanees for a start, and with non league players there's always the thought of discovering a gem, whereas Smyth is a known quantity in terms of his league form

    To be honest I'm slightly puzzled that LB & SG were so excited by Smyth that they wanted to sign him when we were in the Championship, when QPR didn't think he was good enough at that level
    Bit of a difference between being excited or thinking one is a "a better bet" though. 

    I suppose LB & SG did think he was good enough. A bit like when we picked up Danny Mills from Norwich reserves. Or Kermorgant from Leicester. Can't always go by what other clubs think. 
    He'd played 70 odd games for them in two years. 
  • Oggy Red said:
    Chunes said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
    Sorry golfie but if we signed an unproven non-league nobody over Paul Smyth, who won Supporters Young Player of the Year in the Championship, was part of a league one promotion-winning side last year, and was wanted by LB & SG for the past three transfer windows, you would 100% be frothing at the mouth
    To be fair, I'd have probably been more excited by the signing of Sorba than Smyth

    A permanent signing, rather than relying on loanees for a start, and with non league players there's always the thought of discovering a gem, whereas Smyth is a known quantity in terms of his league form

    To be honest I'm slightly puzzled that LB & SG were so excited by Smyth that they wanted to sign him when we were in the Championship, when QPR didn't think he was good enough at that level
    Although we signed Leko and Field last season from West Brom, another Championship club ....... 2 players that did well for us.

    I saw that West Brom thought they were 2 young players who would getter better experience playing regularly in another club's 1st team, rather than on the fringes of their own squad.
    West Brom were a promotion chasing side with a big budget (and still on parachute payments), whereas QPR were far more similar in level to us though

    Field and Leko have never played below the Championship, whereas Smyth has now had 3 L1 loans, suggesting that currently it's his level
  • edited October 2020
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Think Sorba would have been a better bet than Smyth, but what's done is done & I doubt we will be going back in for him come January. 
    Course you do. Whatever is the opposite option of what we do must be the better option.
    Not allowed an opinion now am I  ????
    Sorry golfie but if we signed an unproven non-league nobody over Paul Smyth, who won Supporters Young Player of the Year in the Championship, was part of a league one promotion-winning side last year, and was wanted by LB & SG for the past three transfer windows, you would 100% be frothing at the mouth
    To be fair, I'd have probably been more excited by the signing of Sorba than Smyth

    A permanent signing, rather than relying on loanees for a start, and with non league players there's always the thought of discovering a gem, whereas Smyth is a known quantity in terms of his league form

    To be honest I'm slightly puzzled that LB & SG were so excited by Smyth that they wanted to sign him when we were in the Championship, when QPR didn't think he was good enough at that level
    Bit of a difference between being excited or thinking one is a "a better bet" though. 

    I suppose LB & SG did think he was good enough. A bit like when we picked up Danny Mills from Norwich reserves. Or Kermorgant from Leicester. Can't always go by what other clubs think. 
    He'd played 70 odd games for them in two years. 
    Ok. Does it disprove the point? 

    If we can just go by what other clubs think maybe we can just get rid of Gallen and go by who's played the most for who
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