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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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I don’t post on both sitesForeverAddickted said:
Either @flyingkiwiDK posts on both sites or they're watching his comments on hereMuttleyCAFC said:Schwartz a done deal according to the other site. I didn't realise he was 31!
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With the salary caps I bet Bowyer wished JFC and JW did not extended their contracts, or do they not count towards the cap?0
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They will only count at the league average like every other player that signed before the cap was introduced (assuming they are all on more than the league average which i think is a fair assumption).roseandcrown said:With the salary caps I bet Bowyer wished JFC and JW did not extended their contracts, or do they not count towards the cap?2 -
It’s a shame that selling Phillips / Bonne wouldn’t help at all towards boosting our wage budget as I’m sure they are on a low wage. If we loan out the fringe likes of Lapslie, Davison etc then we can bring in some replacements can’t we? Or would they have to be U21 loans?0
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Scoham said:
YesEmsworthAddick said:Didn't we get Joe Aribo from Staines Town?
Staines Town was Joe's introduction to men's football.0 -
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/3980597#Comment_3980597ColinTat said:
There is no contradiction. Read what I have said. The clubs in L1 and L2 have agreed a salary cap. The championship clubs have not. The EFL have been trying to get a commitment from Championship clubs to a salary cap: The championship discussions are ongoing but there are too many clubs unwilling to accept anything bordering on sanity.cafcfan1990 said:
Completely disagree. You go on to contradict yourself by saying "there are so many basket cases in the championship". So why introduce a salary cap in leagues 1 and 2 but not in the championship? Do you really think 2k a week is above their economic value? I don't, not when you take into account the wages at the top 2 leagues. And like I said takes away the incentive for players to play first team football. When someone like Albie Morgan comes under the cap, why play in League 1 for 2k a week when he can play for a U23 championship club on quadruple that salary.ColinTat said:
And why should anyone be bailing out these clubs. Clubs don't meet their Tax obligations when they go bust, but players wages are protected. Clubs don't bother paying small businesses when they go bust, but players are protected. Clubs don't pay their NI contributions when they go bust, yet players get their contracts honoured in full.cafcfan1990 said:
That's all and well good but doesn't work if it's only our league. The playing field will be levelled out in Leagues 1 and 2, but I think you'll just see the gap widening elsewhere. Any club promoted from League 1 is going to struggle to stay in the championship. Relegated teams from the championship will have to make big changes to stay within the rules. I don't dislike the concept of the cap, but the big issue is actually what clubs are paying in the top two divisions. So they are approaching it wrong IMO.ForeverAddickted said:
Yes its certainly needed, especially at this level and actually in some ways it would be great if we saw a top six of Accrington | Charlton | Rochdale | Fleetwood | Portsmouth | CreweSage said:
Do you see this cap lasting? It’s a good idea, but personally think in the footballing world, it’s far too low in order to compete and then survive enough in the Championship when clubs get promoted.ForeverAddickted said:
I think it could well be the case mate... e.g. if Pearce is on £4k he doesnt count towards the cap FOR NOW!!Sage said:I am sure Phillips does count as a maximum of, I think, £2k p/w meaning we can bring in another player should he leave. Otherwise you’re saying that the only players that count in the cap are the ones we have signed so far, which is wrong.
With his deal up in the summer if we want to offer him a new deal we'd only be able to offer him a deal that falls in line with the cap - Same with Doughty, we can offer him what he wants for now as he's an U21 but the moment he gets too old (if god forbid we're still at this level) then that salary impacts the rest of the squad
£4mil a year is still around £4k a week for 19-20 senior pros. Just makes it that little bit more level.
Would mean that the cap has rightfully created a more level playing field when Football shouldnt be dictated by how rich you are as a side
The trouble is its also come in at the wrong level first - FIFA / UEFA need to grow a pair and force every league to implement something starting at the top and then going down... Like you say its great having something in place now but then when we go into the Championship we'll potentially need a massive overhaul of the squad again just to try and survive!! - Get relegated because the gamble didnt pay off and the reverse all but happens again where we maybe have to start selling or releasing players (out of contract) where we already fall foul of the cap
Very few clubs in L1 should be paying more than £3 million in wages. Sunderland are the other end of the spectrum. The EFL are not going about anything in the wrong way. The clubs have agreed or not agreed in their respective divisions. There are so many basket cases in the championship, if a well run club get's promoted from L1 I'm more confident now that teams like Barnsley, Rotherham and Luton can compete. At £2,000 a week vitually all players in L1 are paid way above their economic value. With every club and player operating in the same market, quality will be available. The base logic is when virtually all lower league clubs are facing bankruptcy why should players be protected and offered contracts with utter disconnect to their value and productivity?
The EFL do not have the power to enforce a change in competition rules without a large majoritty of a division supporting it - 75% from memory. So you blaming the EFL for lack of a cohesive 3 division plan, is utter rubbish not taking in the reality of the EFL organisation, and it's rules for member clubs. If a club is a basket case, they rarely act in anything other than a selfish and uneconomic strategy. Honestly take a moment to actually look into what the EFL are trying to do and what constraints they have, before spouting such uninformed rubbish.
Players in U23 clubs of established Premiership teams are already paid way above most of our first teamers. Why do you think Kasey Palmer left? Joe Gomez probably stayed as he respected the pathway to the first team at Charlton. The disparity of pay is already present between our youth and Prem youth. No contradiction here, just a completely wrongheaded and ill thought out point.
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Sorry not sure that's correct.golfaddick said:Maddening that we seriously need to strengthen but are restricted to just 3 senior players with the rest having to be loaned U21's. I realise that some youngsters may be the dogs bollox, but they will probably have been snapped up already........and nothing beats experience.
Be prepared for another season of purgatory.
We can have a squad of 22 pros and as many U21's we like. Though I may have missed a link or post stating what you say.
Is the correct answer.flyingkiwiDK said:
I don’t post on both sitesForeverAddickted said:
Either @flyingkiwiDK posts on both sites or they're watching his comments on hereMuttleyCAFC said:Schwartz a done deal according to the other site. I didn't realise he was 31!3 -
Are we signing Andre Green?Dazzler21 said:Feel free to add your ITK's guys... Green section is growing fast now the takeover stuff is done.
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Yes, that's what I've heard.flyingkiwiDK said:
Ok. I've heard the deal for Schwartz is done.Dazzler21 said:Feel free to add your ITK's guys... Green section is growing fast now the takeover stuff is done.
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The Taylor who was on the bench for the colchester U23 match last week was Harry Taylor dont know if it was the same Taylor for the Watford match but would be my guess.1
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me too.sillav nitram said:
Yes, that's what I've heard.flyingkiwiDK said:
Ok. I've heard the deal for Schwartz is done.Dazzler21 said:Feel free to add your ITK's guys... Green section is growing fast now the takeover stuff is done.
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Any idea on when the Schwartz deal will be announced? All Charlton news has seemed to dry up, I’m almost wishing for some turmoil..4
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Maybe 3 years getting back to the Championship is more realistic as we can't buy our way back.
Problem is with our donut fans they will be on our current players backs, quicker than you can say Morgan Fox.10 -
Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ...2
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soapboxsam said:Maybe 3 years getting back to the Championship is more realistic as we can't buy our way back.
Problem is with our donut fans they will be on our current players backs, quicker than you can say Macauley Bonne.1 -
And me. On here, just now, but I've heard it. Does that make me an ITK?LargeAddick said:
me too.sillav nitram said:
Yes, that's what I've heard.flyingkiwiDK said:
Ok. I've heard the deal for Schwartz is done.Dazzler21 said:Feel free to add your ITK's guys... Green section is growing fast now the takeover stuff is done.
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I think the rules are:
Players with over the cap salaries already will be given the average player salary for calculation purposes.
Players under the age of 21 are exempt from cap rules.
Squads are limited to 22 players
Any players not in the squad of 22 will be excluded from calculations, unless moved into or out of a squad.0 -
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Frequent fliers who were doing business were exempt, basically wealthy and important people can ignore the rules to an extentFloebot said:
May have missed this, but how does/did TS get away with not isolating?jams said:Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ...7 - Sponsored links:
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After Sunderland we don't have a game for 2 weeks anyway as the Ipswich game will likely be postponed for international call ups.jams said:Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ...1 -
Is just rumour that he has signed or has it been announced anywhere ?0
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Hasnt been announced anywhere but @flyingkiwiDK has been pretty spot on with it so farAndyG said:Is just rumour that he has signed or has it been announced anywhere ?5 -
But he was shit for us.soapboxsam said:Maybe 3 years getting back to the Championship is more realistic as we can't buy our way back.
Problem is with our donut fans they will be on our current players backs, quicker than you can say Morgan Fox.0 -
I think it’s about time Inter Milan loaned us a couple. We’ve been waiting a while35
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These seem to think he's coming
https://www.tipsbladet.dk/nyhed/superliga/avis-ronnie-schwartz-meget-taet-paa-skifte-til-engelsk-klub
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Well, seeing as this is the RUMOURS thread I would take a punt on it being just that.AndyG said:Is just rumour that he has signed or has it been announced anywhere ?1
