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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)

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  • On the subject of Ben Johnson, the below has just appeared on the Sky Sports Transfer Centre:

    West Ham are in talks to sign Slavia Prague right-back Vladimir Coufal.

    As cafcfan1990 says though, would still be shocked if anything actually happened with Johnson and us
  • With the salary caps I bet Bowyer wished JFC and JW did not extended their contracts, or do they not count towards the cap? 
  • With the salary caps I bet Bowyer wished JFC and JW did not extended their contracts, or do they not count towards the cap? 
    They will only count at the league average like every other player that signed before the cap was introduced (assuming they are all on more than the league average which i think is a fair assumption).
  • It’s a shame that selling Phillips / Bonne wouldn’t help at all towards boosting our wage budget as I’m sure they are on a low wage. If we loan out the fringe likes of Lapslie, Davison etc then we can bring in some replacements can’t we? Or would they have to be U21 loans?
  • Scoham said:
    Didn't we get Joe Aribo from Staines Town?
    Yes

    Staines Town was Joe's introduction to men's football.
  • ColinTat said:
    ColinTat said:
    Sage said:
    Sage said:
    I am sure Phillips does count as a maximum of, I think, £2k p/w meaning we can bring in another player should he leave. Otherwise you’re saying that the only players that count in the cap are the ones we have signed so far, which is wrong. 
    I think it could well be the case mate... e.g. if Pearce is on £4k he doesnt count towards the cap FOR NOW!!

    With his deal up in the summer if we want to offer him a new deal we'd only be able to offer him a deal that falls in line with the cap - Same with Doughty, we can offer him what he wants for now as he's an U21 but the moment he gets too old (if god forbid we're still at this level) then that salary impacts the rest of the squad
    Do you see this cap lasting? It’s a good idea, but personally think in the footballing world, it’s far too low in order to compete and then survive enough in the Championship when clubs get promoted.

    £4mil a year is still around £4k a week for 19-20 senior pros. Just makes it that little bit more level.
    Yes its certainly needed, especially at this level and actually in some ways it would be great if we saw a top six of Accrington | Charlton | Rochdale | Fleetwood | Portsmouth | Crewe

    Would mean that the cap has rightfully created a more level playing field when Football shouldnt be dictated by how rich you are as a side

    The trouble is its also come in at the wrong level first - FIFA / UEFA need to grow a pair and force every league to implement something starting at the top and then going down... Like you say its great having something in place now but then when we go into the Championship we'll potentially need a massive overhaul of the squad again just to try and survive!! - Get relegated because the gamble didnt pay off and the reverse all but happens again where we maybe have to start selling or releasing players (out of contract) where we already fall foul of the cap
    That's all and well good but doesn't work if it's only our league. The playing field will be levelled out in Leagues 1 and 2, but I think you'll just see the gap widening elsewhere. Any club promoted from League 1 is going to struggle to stay in the championship. Relegated teams from the championship will have to make big changes to stay within the rules. I don't dislike the concept of the cap, but the big issue is actually what clubs are paying in the top two divisions. So they are approaching it wrong IMO.
     And why should anyone be bailing out these clubs.  Clubs don't meet their Tax obligations when they go bust, but players wages are protected.  Clubs don't bother paying small businesses when they go bust, but players are protected.  Clubs don't pay their NI contributions when they go bust, yet players get their contracts honoured in full.

      Very few clubs in L1 should be paying more than £3 million in wages.  Sunderland are the other end of the spectrum.  The EFL are not going about anything in the wrong way.  The clubs have agreed or not agreed in their respective divisions.  There are so many basket cases in the championship, if a well run club get's promoted from L1 I'm more confident now that teams like Barnsley, Rotherham and Luton can compete.  At £2,000 a week vitually all players in L1 are paid way above their economic value.  With every club and player operating in the same market, quality will be available.  The base logic is when virtually all lower league clubs are facing bankruptcy why should players be protected and offered contracts with utter disconnect to their value and productivity?
    Completely disagree. You go on to contradict yourself by saying "there are so many basket cases in the championship". So why introduce a salary cap in leagues 1 and 2 but not in the championship? Do you really think 2k a week is above their economic value? I don't, not when you take into account the wages at the top 2 leagues. And like I said takes away the incentive for players to play first team football. When someone like Albie Morgan comes under the cap, why play in League 1 for 2k a week when he can play for a U23 championship club on quadruple that salary. 
      There is no contradiction.  Read what I have said.  The clubs in L1 and L2 have agreed a salary cap.  The championship clubs have not.  The EFL have been trying to get a commitment from Championship clubs to a salary cap:  The championship discussions are ongoing but there are too many clubs unwilling to accept anything bordering on sanity.

      The EFL do not have the power to enforce a change in competition rules without a large majoritty of a division supporting it - 75% from memory.  So you blaming the EFL for lack of a cohesive 3 division plan, is utter rubbish not taking in the reality of the EFL organisation, and it's rules for member clubs.  If a club is a basket case, they rarely act in anything other than a selfish and uneconomic strategy.  Honestly take a moment to actually look into what the EFL are trying to do and what constraints they have, before spouting such uninformed rubbish.

      Players in U23 clubs of established Premiership teams are already paid way above most of our first teamers.  Why do you think Kasey Palmer left?  Joe Gomez probably stayed as he respected the pathway to the first team at Charlton.  The disparity of pay is already present between our youth and Prem youth.  No contradiction here, just a completely wrongheaded and ill thought out point.
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/comment/3980597#Comment_3980597
  • Maddening that we seriously need to strengthen but are restricted to just 3 senior players with the rest having to be loaned U21's. I realise that some youngsters may be the dogs bollox, but they will probably have been snapped up already........and nothing beats experience. 

    Be prepared for another season of purgatory.
    Sorry not sure that's correct. 

    We can have a squad of 22 pros and as many U21's we like. Though I may have missed a link or post stating what you say. 

    Schwartz a done deal according to the other site. I didn't realise he was 31!
    Either @flyingkiwiDK posts on both sites or they're watching his comments on here :)
    I don’t post on both sites 
    Is the correct answer. 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Feel free to add your ITK's guys... Green section is growing fast now the takeover stuff is done. 
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/89807/the-itk-thread#latest
    Are we signing Andre Green?
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Feel free to add your ITK's guys... Green section is growing fast now the takeover stuff is done. 
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/89807/the-itk-thread#latest
    Ok.  I've heard the deal for Schwartz is done.
    Yes, that's what I've heard.
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  • The Taylor who was on the bench for the colchester U23 match last week was Harry Taylor dont know if it was the same Taylor for the Watford match but would be my guess.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Feel free to add your ITK's guys... Green section is growing fast now the takeover stuff is done. 
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/89807/the-itk-thread#latest
    Ok.  I've heard the deal for Schwartz is done.
    Yes, that's what I've heard.
    me too.
  • Any idea on when the Schwartz deal will be announced? All Charlton news has seemed to dry up, I’m almost wishing for some turmoil.. 
  • Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ... 
  • Maybe 3 years getting back to the Championship is more realistic as we can't buy our way back.

    Problem is with our donut fans they will be on our current players backs, quicker than you can say Macauley Bonne. 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Feel free to add your ITK's guys... Green section is growing fast now the takeover stuff is done. 
    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/89807/the-itk-thread#latest
    Ok.  I've heard the deal for Schwartz is done.
    Yes, that's what I've heard.
    me too.
    And me. On here, just now, but I've heard it. Does that make me an ITK?
  • jams said:
    Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ... 
    May have missed this, but how does/did TS get away with not isolating? 
  • I think the rules are:

    Players with over the cap salaries already will be given the average player salary for calculation purposes. 
    Players under the age of 21 are exempt from cap rules. 
    Squads are limited to 22 players 
    Any players not in the squad of 22 will be excluded from calculations, unless moved into or out of a squad. 
  • Floebot said:
    jams said:
    Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ... 
    May have missed this, but how does/did TS get away with not isolating? 
    Because he's only here on business I think he's under different rules
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  • Floebot said:
    jams said:
    Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ... 
    May have missed this, but how does/did TS get away with not isolating? 
    I don’t think the US is part of the list
  • jams said:
    Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ... 
    This was covered recently that it should be ok as he is going from one elite sport bubble to another
  • jams said:
    Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ... 
    He maybe available if he was getting tested at his old club and moving from bubble to bubble. He needs to be tested before he travels to U.K. and if clear he will be available.
  • jams said:
    Schwartz will presumably not be available for two weeks from when he gets here ... 
    After Sunderland we don't have a game for 2 weeks anyway as the Ipswich game will likely be postponed for international call ups.
  • Is just rumour that he has signed or has it been announced anywhere ?
  • Maybe 3 years getting back to the Championship is more realistic as we can't buy our way back.

    Problem is with our donut fans they will be on our current players backs, quicker than you can say Morgan Fox. 
    But he was shit for us. 
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