ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)

Jints

Chunes said:

Now another round of telling people to turn off their mics and cameras...

They really should have done it on Zoom so that the court can switch off mics and cameras of observers themselves. Zoom has been fairly standard for court hearings, not sure why Teams was chosed for this one. 

SELR_addicks

If you want to help the club you shouldn't join the new meeting. 

Flooding the stream just increases the liklihood of an adjournment. Especially if you don't know how to turn your video and mic off. 

Chunes

PAIIIGE GET AATT NAAAAAA

i_b_b_o_r_g

Anyone seen the Blackadder episode when gets done for shooting one of the King's Carrier Pigeons, Speckled Jim? That

Gary Poole

Chizz said:

There's 1,100 people on Charlton Life right now.  Can't we just have the hearing here instead?

Agreed, I’ve been to enough court hearings in the past, so I’ll be Judge. I’ll just find my black cap and we’ll get started.

aliwibble

Chizz said:

FFS 


(First one of the season)

Git.

AndyG

This is TRAGIC !!!! you couldnt make it up ffs... only we could stop the court case that would hopefully free us from this shite !!!

KBslittlesis

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Anyone seen the Blackadder episode when gets done for shooting one of the King's Carrier Pigeons, Speckled Jim? That

I’ve gone into full giggle mode now & anyone that knows me knows that’s it, nothing is going to get done today 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

CL_Phantom

People asking for the link to be posted but I'm not sure it's a wise idea when I want to get in to report it, and it seems the numbers on there are preventing that.

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mascot88

Shambles 

Nadou

Great if idiot fans f**k this up

ct_addick

Don't understand why everyone wants to log into this...Let Airman or Cawley provide the updates

cafcfan1990

Yes please just leave it. You don't have to hear every word, there will be a report, we really need this to go ahead. 

SheedyCAFC

Best that none of us join and just follow the updates, we don’t want this adjourned

jacob_CAFC

How can this be put at the door of the fans? Absolutely absurd to suggest that.

esseffect

se9addick said:

esseffect said:

Why can’t we just let it happen and stop trying to join? Cawley and others will report the truth to us stop delays matters more 

Courts being open to the public is a pretty important part of our legal system..:

It is open to the public. But if you all turned up in reality would everyone get in? No.

Chunes

Nadou said:

Great if idiot fans f**k this up

All people did was try to join the proceedings, to be fair. Although the idiots who left their cams and mics on, yeah...

You'd think a court would be better organised this far into corona

guinnessaddick

Wonder what @oohaahmortimer has to say about the numbers?

AddickUpNorth

Bunch o’ rubberneckers.

GoOnYouHaddocks

Come on guys, everyone under 6'0 tall, log-out now.

Covered End

Nadou said:

Great if idiot fans f**k this up

It's not idiot fans, it's idiot court clerks.
The fans were invited and joined as per invite.

Nadou

jacob_CAFC said:

How can this be put at the door of the fans? Absolutely absurd to suggest that.

Clogging up the system, not turning off camera and mic.

iainambler

Valley11 said:

Just log out for Christ’s sake. An adjournment because of technical issues would be a bloody disaster 

Being logged in won't be an issue.  Those in the lobby trying to get in are the issue - but those managing the lobby can see who they are - so should know who is VIP and who isn't.  I think the issue is clerks not knowing how to manage a Teams call - which isn't their fault - it's the fault of HMCS.

AndyG

Covered End said:

Nadou said:

Great if idiot fans f**k this up

It's not idiot fans, it's idiot court clerks.
The fans were invited and joined as per invite.

Yup but now it looks like it created problems can we just not try to log back in if this gets adjourned it will be a nightmare

Rothko

Hmm, HMCTS should have set this up properly, lets not blame fans 

robinofottershaw

Suspect the judge may direct the clerk omits the public on the second invite.

Stig

SheedyCAFC said:

Best that none of us join and just follow the updates, we don’t want this adjourned

You're right we don't want it adjourned, but it's no bad thing for the court to understand the level of interest in this.

Talal

Not bothering trying to get in again, hopefully others will do the same. 

se9addick

esseffect said:

se9addick said:

esseffect said:

Why can’t we just let it happen and stop trying to join? Cawley and others will report the truth to us stop delays matters more 

Courts being open to the public is a pretty important part of our legal system..:

It is open to the public. But if you all turned up in reality would everyone get in? No.

Right, so there would be a capacity in the public gallery. No reason that can’t be established in exactly the same way here. 

golfaddick

cafcfan1990 said:

Yes please just leave it. You don't have to hear every word, there will be a report, we really need this to go ahead. 

But why not. This is the British justice system & everyone has the right to see/hear what is happening. In real life you would probably have to lock the doors & turn people away, but as its being held virtually surely that makes it even easier to let people "into" the hearing.

Its not CAFC fans that are the problem here. Probably down to Teams or whatever it is that is delaying it all.