This is the approach Bowyer had when he started managing us and he has to get that back.
I am unclear the approach you are alluding too?
Probably an attacking one as Mutts felt he was too defensive I guess. Can't say I agree with that because we were in a higher division and with the squad we had,injury issues, players downing tools and transfer embargo he could only work with what he had i.e. Defend, stay in the game, nick a goal and try and hang on for the 3 points.
This is the approach Bowyer had when he started managing us and he has to get that back.
I am unclear the approach you are alluding too?
Probably an attacking one as Mutts felt he was too defensive I guess. Can't say I agree with that because we were in a higher division and with the squad we had,injury issues, players downing tools and transfer embargo he could only work with what he had i.e. Defend, stay in the game, nick a goal and try and hang on for the 3 points.
You are in good company as a large number of managers share your view. These are the managers Wilder thanked for Sheffield United's success.
Why are teams not too open generally at the start of a game? The reason is simple, they do not want to have that openness exploited by their opponents. They know they will lose more points than they win by doing this. So you have a game where one team is on top and they score. If they don't get another they start to think about preserving their lead as the game goes on. No matter how much on top they have been.
Now for the mentality of the team that is losing. They may feel there is enough time to get into the game and respect their opponents not to change anything too soon. But a point comes when they have to take risks. This is a bloody nuisance for the side that is leading as their opponents, which they are outplaying, are effectively changing the rules of engagement.
Your opponents are doing what they would not have done at the start of the game because it would be foolish. If you respond in the way you may have started the game had they been so open you will be the most likely to score the next goal. For the same reasons as would be the case at the start of the game. But if you try to preserve your lead and sit back, they have increased their chances of success.
It is my view that a negative approach costs you more points than it wins you. There being a difference of two points between a win and a draw is the reason. I understand that it is human nature to try to hold on to what you have but I am firmly of the view that you have to fight against this. I would imagine, the better the quality the team you are playing, the harder it is to do so though.
This is the approach Bowyer had when he started managing us and he has to get that back.
I am unclear the approach you are alluding too?
Probably an attacking one as Mutts felt he was too defensive I guess. Can't say I agree with that because we were in a higher division and with the squad we had,injury issues, players downing tools and transfer embargo he could only work with what he had i.e. Defend, stay in the game, nick a goal and try and hang on for the 3 points.
You are in good company as a large number of managers share your view. These are the managers Wilder thanked for Sheffield United's success.
Why are teams not too open generally at the start of a game? The reason is simple, they do not want to have that openness exploited by their opponents. They know they will lose more points than they win by doing this. So you have a game where one team is on top and they score. If they don't get another they start to think about preserving their lead as the game goes on. No matter how much on top they have been.
Now for the mentality of the team that is losing. They may feel there is enough time to get into the game and respect their opponents not to change anything too soon. But a point comes when they have to take risks. This is a bloody nuisance for the side that is leading as their opponents, which you are outplaying, are effectively changing the rules of engagement.
Your opponents are doing what they would not have done at the start of the game because it would be foolish. If you respond in the way you may have started the game had they been so open you will be the most likely to score the next goal. For the same reasons as would be the case at the start of the game.
It is my view that a negative approach costs you more points than it wins you. There being a difference of two points between a win and a draw is the reason. I understand that it is human nature to try to hold on to what you have but I am firmly of the view that you have to fight against this. I would imagine, the better the quality the team you are playing, the harder it is to do so though.
That's fair enough and I get all that I played the game at a decent amature level Saturdays and Sundays for 20 odd years including vets football but we beg to differ. Kevin Kegan's approach when Newcastle went head to head with Manure for the Premier League title all those years back was one of 'we'll score more goals than you'. Great entertainment value but no cigars.
As fans we all think we could do the manager's job better and hindsight is a wonderful thing with team selection and in game management. Some of us have even managed a Sunday League title winning team 😉.
However what we seem to forget is that the vast majority of professional team managers and coaches have been involved the game since their youth and have far greater knowledge of all its aspects than us mere mortals.
That's not to say they are beyond criticism but I have seen enough from Bowyer's management, which is still in its early years, to adapt to the needs of each match as it plays out so no need to be concerned about how he will apply himself to this season's challenges as far as I'm concerned.
I have managed at youth level. And you would see me urging my team forwards when we were one up even though my instinct was to defend. I recall the struggle to do so. It doesn't matter about the level or the general management skill. It is a principle in which I believe with a certainty. Bowyer is a better manager than either of us. But this is more a mentality thing than a formation or set up thing. It is about odds and lots of great footballers and managers have shown in the past they might not be so hot on those
If you have a great defence, it may rightly push you into this defensive approach. I have noticed with us though in recent years that whilst we are not shoddy defensively, we do not defend well under pressure. The ball just keeps coming back and that is not playing the odds well in my opinion.
Always had a soft spot for Crewe,after seeing them get done 13-2 at Spurs many years ago (10-1 at half time)They had a great old time centre forward Bert Llewellyn who I think got both Crewe goals.However sentiment aside,we should win this hopefully by 2 or 3 goals and get off to a start.
Terrific preview .. their problem now unlike in Dario Gradi's day, top clubs now hoover up talent from all over the world and not just the North West and Midlands so they now find it more difficult to sign and nurture young talent .. as said though a great old club from a famous railway town (Oh Mr Porter What can I do? ) and it's good to see them still thriving and playing 'the right way'. I'd like to see Barker and Aneke start with Pratley in midfield and see us off to a good start for what will be a very strange season
3-1 win Too much in midfield and up front for Crewe to handle, while Pratley does his best but gives away a pen... Bonne, Washington and Aneke (from the bench) with the goals
Horrible first game. If we win, it will be a case 'well, I should hope so'. If we lose, it will feel like three points down the drain due to the fiasco off the field. I hope we do enough to scrape three points somehow. I have a feeling it will be 0-0.
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Washington scores on his debut and a late clincher from super sub Chuks to ease the nerves.
Why are teams not too open generally at the start of a game? The reason is simple, they do not want to have that openness exploited by their opponents. They know they will lose more points than they win by doing this. So you have a game where one team is on top and they score. If they don't get another they start to think about preserving their lead as the game goes on. No matter how much on top they have been.
Now for the mentality of the team that is losing. They may feel there is enough time to get into the game and respect their opponents not to change anything too soon. But a point comes when they have to take risks. This is a bloody nuisance for the side that is leading as their opponents, which they are outplaying, are effectively changing the rules of engagement.
Your opponents are doing what they would not have done at the start of the game because it would be foolish. If you respond in the way you may have started the game had they been so open you will be the most likely to score the next goal. For the same reasons as would be the case at the start of the game. But if you try to preserve your lead and sit back, they have increased their chances of success.
It is my view that a negative approach costs you more points than it wins you. There being a difference of two points between a win and a draw is the reason. I understand that it is human nature to try to hold on to what you have but I am firmly of the view that you have to fight against this. I would imagine, the better the quality the team you are playing, the harder it is to do so though.
As fans we all think we could do the manager's job better and hindsight is a wonderful thing with team selection and in game management. Some of us have even managed a Sunday League title winning team 😉.
However what we seem to forget is that the vast majority of professional team managers and coaches have been involved the game since their youth and have far greater knowledge of all its aspects than us mere mortals.
That's not to say they are beyond criticism but I have seen enough from Bowyer's management, which is still in its early years, to adapt to the needs of each match as it plays out so no need to be concerned about how he will apply himself to this season's challenges as far as I'm concerned.
If you have a great defence, it may rightly push you into this defensive approach. I have noticed with us though in recent years that whilst we are not shoddy defensively, we do not defend well under pressure. The ball just keeps coming back and that is not playing the odds well in my opinion.
I think we'll score many more at this level.
When put into the first team, Vennings looked off the pace and Doughty fantastic.
Who knows who will step up next?!
Those that go to unders games (or did pre-lockdown) what's your opinion on the next youth to step up.
Perhaps Vennings needs the same opportunity.
Was a good idea giving the kids the red training top when they'd been training with the Seniors
I'd like to see Barker and Aneke start with Pratley in midfield and see us off to a good start for what will be a very strange season
Crewe Alexandra 0 v CAFC 2
Just off to check the odds...