Nice to see that Hue got a £40k salary increase whilst suspended. Good old BBC supporting a fellow nonce. How many more have they got hidden. Images of sex with 7 year olds. Fucking sickening I know this will get closed/removed, but cannot ignore this. You lot keep paying your TV licences though.
The BBC is a strange beast - a national institution that has a huge role to play but that has become too big and attempts to play in too many areas in order to justify its existence and licence fee.
I'd love to see a pared back BBC that:-
- Delivers quality news and current affairs across all media - trusted, respected and with impartial content regionally, nationally and internationally. - Creates documentaries that inform and educate in a non sensationalist style. - Covers major national and international sporting events - highlights are fine... - Develops non partisan comedy and "light" entertainment.
It could save many many hundreds of millions by stopping playing the headline act / ratings game and in so doing lowering its standards to the lowest common denominator. The licence fee could be removed and the BBc could be funded through general taxation.
I would:-
- Sell off much of its current "popular" TV to commercial interest (Eastenders would be great on a commercial channel - advertisers would pay to be associated with it and my taxes won't contribute towards the absolute pile of depressive and objectionable shite it is). - Stop paying "celebrities" millions of pounds of taxpayers money - adopt a public service pay structure and let the "talent" secure their pay packets in a commercial enterprise (then they can get the "market rate"). - Cull the proliferation of smaller channels and include the good content that exists in the core channels and stations.
My BBC would look like this:- - BBC On line. Pretty much as it is today. - BBC TV. reduce to two channels; BBC1. News, documentaries and current affairs, BBC2 Sport, comedy and entertainment (children's content up to 6pm) - BBC Radio (National) . Reduce to 4 channels; Radio 1 contemporary content, younger audience, Radio 2 less contemporary content for an older audience, BBC3 specialist content (not just classical), Radio 4 news, current affairs and documentaries. - BBC Radio (Regional). Pretty much as it is today. - BBC World Service - continue to be the UK's voice of influence and stability around the world.
Scrap everything else...
I think I have just taken us back to about 1990. Perhaps not such a bad thing...
Interesting you’ve cut out 5 Live given we’re on a football forum. Infinitely better than Talkshite, for me it’s a great advert for why having a public service broadcaster is better than leaving everything to the commercial sector.
5 live came into being in 1994 so misses my 1990 benchmark!
I have only listened to talksport once, a few weeks back to hear RE talk to TS. I tuned in (or logged on) about 15 minutes before the interview and was amazed that anyone can listen to that quality of content for more than 2 minutes without their brains turning to mush. I fully agree that that is why we need public service broadcasting.
Prior to 5 live, sport was covered on Radio 4. It was factual, high quality and well regarded without the need for incessant "phone ins" that seem to dominate radio broadcasting (at least I don't remember them being as ubiquitous as they are now).
I have to admit that I have a passionate dislike for them, on sport or any subject. I want to hear expert views and analysis, not the nonsense spouted by John from Surrey on why Arsene Wenger must go. I recognise the hypocrisy of saying that whilst writing on a football forum, but their is a fundamental difference between them being hosted on a national broadcast versus me choosing to come here.
Quality sport coverage could be easily accommodated on a Radio 4 as it was previously.
With out Talksport how could you find out about the latest Van offers, or how much decking costs.
I'd be more likely to watch MOTD if Lineker wasn't presenting it. He was probably happy to take a pay cut as he is likely raking it in from BT plus the BBC show a number of shows produced by Goalhanger Films (Lineker's company) which they no doubt pay a pretty penny for.
I dont think he works for BT anymore. He left them when Leicester qualified for Europe and "wanted to watch them as a fan with his boys". That however does not take away from the overall theme of your post.
Nice to see that Hue got a £40k salary increase whilst suspended. Good old BBC supporting a fellow nonce. How many more have they got hidden. Images of sex with 7 year olds. Fucking sickening I know this will get closed/removed, but cannot ignore this. You lot keep paying your TV licences though.
the BBC is in many ways a wonderful organisation, yet in other ways seems corrupt, smug and arrogant, ignoring the foibles and outright illegalities perpetrated by their 'stars' .. Edwards paid nearly 1/2 a million for reading from an autocue, Lineker paid well over a million for what he does, etc. etc. .. if the government decides on major changes at Auntie though, they must be careful not to chuck the proverbial baby out with the filthy bath water
If I was in charge of the BBC, I would have a rule that no presenter would be paid more than £500k. Ultimately, it wouldn't affect the quality of programming. There are enough able commentators/pundits to step in when others leave.
I’ll keep paying the license fee cos it’s £13 a month (hardly a bank breaking direct debit). And it’s the most balanced news outlet we have. Hated by the far right (“too many minorities on mah screen bruv”) hated by the far left (“it’s run by Tories run by Tories i tells ya!”).
If both Owen Jones and Tommy Robinson moan about it despite being complete opposites politically it must be doing something right.
Surprised about Jon Sopel's comments, and yes I am ex BBC!, perhaps he is trying to get back in there, having been the North American Editor on a very lucrative salary?. I see no real defence for Edwards, he was paid more than the current DG, and as others have already posted, and he also he need's to consider his position!. Edwards pleaded guilty, and has frankly brought disgrace on the Public Service Broadcaster, in my opinion! Too many newscasters, are freelance, and earn far more than there stated income from The BBC, in public speaking and 'events'.
The current DG Tim Davie, is a failed Tory wannabe politician, so not the left winger you might expect!. Always been a contradiction in being the editorial chief, and a policy maker! The BBC needs a radical overhaul, I have long argued it needs to be a subscription channel.
As much as I am supportive of The BBC in theory, it's original purpose as stated by Reith, 'Inform, educate, entertain' needs drastically revising in this age.
There is a culture where the top tier look after themselves. If Edwards was a clerk or local radio presenter, he would have been suspended without pay at the very least given the seriousness of the accusations. I think those responsible should walk over this and if they don't they should be made to.
Surprised about Jon Sopel's comments, and yes I am ex BBC!, perhaps he is trying to get back in there, having been the North American Editor on a very lucrative salary?. I see no real defence for Edwards, he was paid more than the current DG, and as others have already posted, and he also he need's to consider his position!. Edwards pleaded guilty, and has frankly brought disgrace on the Public Service Broadcaster, in my opinion! Too many newscasters, are freelance, and earn far more than there stated income from The BBC, in public speaking and 'events'.
The current DG Tim Davie, is a failed Tory wannabe politician, so not the left winger you might expect!. Always been a contradiction in being the editorial chief, and a policy maker! The BBC needs a radical overhaul, I have long argued it needs to be a subscription channel.
As much as I am supportive of The BBC in theory, it's original purpose as stated by Reith, 'Inform, educate, entertain' needs drastically revising in this age.
I hope to god you wern't a journalist or a proof reader.
This is a disingenuous clip. This was when he went off air for propositioning - still a scumbag, but Jon Sopel's comment was in that context. It was not recorded after Edward's pleaded guilty....
Surprised about Jon Sopel's comments, and yes I am ex BBC!, perhaps he is trying to get back in there, having been the North American Editor on a very lucrative salary?. I see no real defence for Edwards, he was paid more than the current DG, and as others have already posted, and he also he need's to consider his position!. Edwards pleaded guilty, and has frankly brought disgrace on the Public Service Broadcaster, in my opinion! Too many newscasters, are freelance, and earn far more than there stated income from The BBC, in public speaking and 'events'.
The current DG Tim Davie, is a failed Tory wannabe politician, so not the left winger you might expect!. Always been a contradiction in being the editorial chief, and a policy maker! The BBC needs a radical overhaul, I have long argued it needs to be a subscription channel.
As much as I am supportive of The BBC in theory, it's original purpose as stated by Reith, 'Inform, educate, entertain' needs drastically revising in this age.
I hope to god you wern't a journalist or a proof reader.
This is a disingenuous clip. This was when he went off air for propositioning - still a scumbag, but Jon Sopel's comment was in that context. It was not recorded before Edward's pleaded guilty....
That's exactly how I took it, as being recorded before the guilty plea, but I still find it strange and a little concerning that all these news readers and journalists would go on public record defending Edwards before they knew either way. Experienced journalists, of all people, should know that it's a foolish thing to do.
Surprised about Jon Sopel's comments, and yes I am ex BBC!, perhaps he is trying to get back in there, having been the North American Editor on a very lucrative salary?. I see no real defence for Edwards, he was paid more than the current DG, and as others have already posted, and he also he need's to consider his position!. Edwards pleaded guilty, and has frankly brought disgrace on the Public Service Broadcaster, in my opinion! Too many newscasters, are freelance, and earn far more than there stated income from The BBC, in public speaking and 'events'.
The current DG Tim Davie, is a failed Tory wannabe politician, so not the left winger you might expect!. Always been a contradiction in being the editorial chief, and a policy maker! The BBC needs a radical overhaul, I have long argued it needs to be a subscription channel.
As much as I am supportive of The BBC in theory, it's original purpose as stated by Reith, 'Inform, educate, entertain' needs drastically revising in this age.
I hope to god you wern't a journalist or a proof reader.
This is a disingenuous clip. This was when he went off air for propositioning - still a scumbag, but Jon Sopel's comment was in that context. It was not recorded before Edward's pleaded guilty....
That's exactly how I took it, as being recorded before the guilty plea, but I still find it strange and a little concerning that all these news readers and journalists would go on public record defending Edwards before they knew either way. Experienced journalists, of all people, should know that it's a foolish thing to do.
A quick edit to my last sentence - should have read "not recorded after" - luckily my first sentence was correct (good proof reading...)
I tend to agree with you but would also have sympathy for Sopel et al. If a colleague of yours, who was also a friend and who you had known for years (and who you thought you knew well) was unable to work for an act that wasn't illegal, and there was absolutely nothing to suggest that there was anything else going on, then you may be inclined to offer them your support (at least I would).
Surprised about Jon Sopel's comments, and yes I am ex BBC!, perhaps he is trying to get back in there, having been the North American Editor on a very lucrative salary?. I see no real defence for Edwards, he was paid more than the current DG, and as others have already posted, and he also he need's to consider his position!. Edwards pleaded guilty, and has frankly brought disgrace on the Public Service Broadcaster, in my opinion! Too many newscasters, are freelance, and earn far more than there stated income from The BBC, in public speaking and 'events'.
The current DG Tim Davie, is a failed Tory wannabe politician, so not the left winger you might expect!. Always been a contradiction in being the editorial chief, and a policy maker! The BBC needs a radical overhaul, I have long argued it needs to be a subscription channel.
As much as I am supportive of The BBC in theory, it's original purpose as stated by Reith, 'Inform, educate, entertain' needs drastically revising in this age.
I hope to god you wern't a journalist or a proof reader.
This is a disingenuous clip. This was when he went off air for propositioning - still a scumbag, but Jon Sopel's comment was in that context. It was not recorded before Edward's pleaded guilty....
That's exactly how I took it, as being recorded before the guilty plea, but I still find it strange and a little concerning that all these news readers and journalists would go on public record defending Edwards before they knew either way. Experienced journalists, of all people, should know that it's a foolish thing to do.
A quick edit to my last sentence - should have read "not recorded after" - luckily my first sentence was correct (good proof reading...)
I tend to agree with you but would also have sympathy for Sopel et al. If a colleague of yours, who was also a friend and who you had known for years (and who you thought you knew well) was unable to work for an act that wasn't illegal, and there was absolutely nothing to suggest that there was anything else going on, then you may be inclined to offer them your support (at least I would).
I may support them in private once I had their word they were innocent, but until the truth was known either way officially, I definitely wouldn't go out my way to publicly point the finger at the accusers. As I said, for people who work in the news industry, I think it's very naive
There is a culture where the top tier look after themselves. If Edwards was a clerk or local radio presenter, he would have been suspended without pay at the very least given the seriousness of the accusations. I think those responsible should walk over this and if they don't they should be made to.
You do realise this is true of every single industry there is, Mutts?
There is a culture where the top tier look after themselves. If Edwards was a clerk or local radio presenter, he would have been suspended without pay at the very least given the seriousness of the accusations. I think those responsible should walk over this and if they don't they should be made to.
You do realise this is true of every single industry there is, Mutts?
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Good old BBC supporting a fellow nonce.
How many more have they got hidden.
Images of sex with 7 year olds.
Fucking sickening
I know this will get closed/removed, but cannot ignore this.
You lot keep paying your TV licences though.
Edwards paid nearly 1/2 a million for reading from an autocue, Lineker paid well over a million for what he does, etc. etc. .. if the government decides on major changes at Auntie though, they must be careful not to chuck the proverbial baby out with the filthy bath water
And it’s the most balanced news outlet we have. Hated by the far right (“too many minorities on mah screen bruv”) hated by the far left (“it’s run by Tories run by Tories i tells ya!”).
Cor, you're hard.
I see no real defence for Edwards, he was paid more than the current DG, and as others have already posted, and he also he need's to consider his position!.
Edwards pleaded guilty, and has frankly brought disgrace on the Public Service Broadcaster, in my opinion!
Too many newscasters, are freelance, and earn
far more than there stated income from The BBC, in public speaking and 'events'.
The current DG Tim Davie, is a failed Tory wannabe politician, so not the left winger you might expect!. Always been a contradiction in being the editorial chief, and a policy maker!
The BBC needs a radical overhaul, I have long argued it needs to be a subscription channel.
As much as I am supportive of The BBC in theory, it's original purpose as stated by Reith, 'Inform, educate, entertain' needs drastically revising in this age.
This is a disingenuous clip. This was when he went off air for propositioning - still a scumbag, but Jon Sopel's comment was in that context. It was not recorded after Edward's pleaded guilty....
I tend to agree with you but would also have sympathy for Sopel et al. If a colleague of yours, who was also a friend and who you had known for years (and who you thought you knew well) was unable to work for an act that wasn't illegal, and there was absolutely nothing to suggest that there was anything else going on, then you may be inclined to offer them your support (at least I would).