PWR - a few pluses. Thought Femwo and Inniss looked solid and Gunter grew into the game. Shinnie did enough to think he could be decent in this league. Thought Smyth had a decent game and Aneke did very well before tiring. Bogle when he came on showed glimpses and considering he’s had no real pre season could be an asset when up to speed. I’m assuming our top scorer Washington was on the bench due to his international exploits. What the feck was midfield about? Those three certainly don’t work together. Can’t play with Pratley and Watson in the same team in my opinion. JFC improved after his goal but was a bit meh for me. Midfield lacked any sort of creativity and dynamism.
Saying that a win is a win and we just about shaded it. Onwards and upwards hopefully.
I didn’t think that Chucks Looked tired at all when he was taken off.
He’s made of glass. Can’t be risked for more than an hour, I imagine
PWR - a few pluses. Thought Femwo and Inniss looked solid and Gunter grew into the game. Shinnie did enough to think he could be decent in this league. Thought Smyth had a decent game and Aneke did very well before tiring. Bogle when he came on showed glimpses and considering he’s had no real pre season could be an asset when up to speed. I’m assuming our top scorer Washington was on the bench due to his international exploits. What the feck was midfield about? Those three certainly don’t work together. Can’t play with Pratley and Watson in the same team in my opinion. JFC improved after his goal but was a bit meh for me. Midfield lacked any sort of creativity and dynamism.
Saying that a win is a win and we just about shaded it. Onwards and upwards hopefully.
I didn’t think that Chucks Looked tired at all when he was taken off.
He’s made of glass. Can’t be risked for more than an hour, I imagine
Classic case of Charltonitis. Was fine to play the two seasons before he came to us!
A rollercoaster of a game , non stop action and one you couldn't take your eyes off for a minute.
Scrappy at times but also some sublime moves from both sides contributing to an entertaining match.
For me, Chuks had a blinder , young Smyth was our new Duracell Bunny and apart from the disappointing Watson , the rest of our lads put in a decent shift for a group that have barely trained together thus far.
Really pleased for JFC with his match winning strike and so hope he's able to keep fit this season.
So, onwards and upwards with a squad most League 1 teams must surely envy under a gaffer who has performed miracles on a shoestring budget in the past.
A rollercoaster of a game , non stop action and one you couldn't take your eyes off for a minute.
Scrappy at times but also some sublime moves from both sides contributing to an entertaining match.
For me, Chuks had a blinder , young Smyth was our new Duracell Bunny and apart from the disappointing Watson , the rest of our lads put in a decent shift for a group that have barely trained together thus far.
Really pleased for JFC with his match winning strike and so hope he's able to keep fit this season.
So, onwards and upwards with a squad most League 1 teams must surely envy under a gaffer who has performed miracles on a shoestring budget in the past.
@StubleyAddick if you could have a word with @KillersBeard and make sure he never refers again to anyone on the field giving someone his ‘squirty white stuff’ it would be much appreciated
Anyone still think Aneke cannot play up top on his own?
Has anyone said he can’t? I think he can but I don’t think he’ll score many goals.
Yes quite a few, although in fairness doubt he’ll be up top on his own, not often anyway. I agree, I don’t think he’s capable of being prolific, think he’ll work well with Washington though.
Wigan were good value, I've seen them play this season and got what I'd expected. Without patronising them they are a good side and doing remarkably well despite their situation off the field
Garner is a nasty piece of work and as a self confessed vicious, vengeful footballer myself I saw exactly what he was up to with the Doughty head injury and that was cheap. I'm glad he didn't score or give us further reason to make him a hate figure. Which is a shame because he is a good player
We again got a shit, inconsistent referee. I feel vindicated when I moan about the referee when we win but he was a disaster on another day he costs us.
Aneke was fantastic and put in the performance I knew he had in him. Forster Caskey had the best game I remember seeing him involved with, deserved his goal for not giving up on the free kicks
Should go without saying there is a lot of gelling needs to happen but I'll say it anyway. The players who came on seemed very keen and now we have a squad and actual competition for places rather than getting picked for not being on crutches.
Doughty is a really intelligent footballer I'm really glad we still have him.
Famewo again did not put a foot wrong, Norwich must have some amazing centre halves to not need him
Gunter defended excellently Shinnie is not a complicated player, gets the ball forward and I can see why he was such a key part of Lutons side, I like him from what I saw today
Overall we played well especially whilst learning to play together. We were good for the win, had a bit of luck and have the makings of a competitive side
Wigan were good value, I've seen them play this season and got what I'd expected. Without patronising them they are a good side and doing remarkably well despite their situation off the field
Garner is a nasty piece of work and as a self confessed vicious, vengeful footballer myself I saw exactly what he was up to with the Doughty head injury and that was cheap. I'm glad he didn't score or give us further reason to make him a hate figure. Which is a shame because he is a good player
We again got a shit, inconsistent referee. I feel vindicated when I moan about the referee when we win but he was a disaster on another day he costs us.
Aneke was fantastic and put in the performance I knew he had in him. Forster Caskey had the best game I remember seeing him involved with, deserved his goal for not giving up on the free kicks
Should go without saying there is a lot of gelling needs to happen but I'll say it anyway. The players who came on seemed very keen and now we have a squad and actual competition for places rather than getting picked for not being on crutches.
Doughty is a really intelligent footballer I'm really glad we still have him.
Famewo again did not put a foot wrong, Norwich must have some amazing centre halves to not need him
Gunter defended excellently Shinnie is not a complicated player, gets the ball forward and I can see why he was such a key part of Lutons side, I like him from what I saw today
Overall we played well especially whilst learning to play together. We were good for the win, had a bit of luck and have the makings of a competitive side
Agree with all of that... We just need Chuks to smash one in and get on a run.
Poor crowd overall and Wigan away support non-existent. Rugby town
I ended up using sound of live facebook feed of the demonstrations from Jerusalem all through the game to liven up the atmosphere (they kept shouting 'Go,Go, Go', and even had pink flags which is almost like red)
Watson and Pratley in the same line up reminds of the Russell Slade days, neither should be in the same line up ever!
Thanks - I’d really tried to forget the Foley Crofts midfield axis ! In all seriousness, maybe Watson is rusty. I didn’t love Pratley in this league last time. Personally, I’d play him only in games when we have far less of the ball or as the middle man of the back three.
I think the ref took too long to blow but it was definitely a foul. I thought the ref was very poor but that worked better for us than them overall. He let a few things go and that didn't help the game IMO.
Brilliant result as in theory we should only go and get better, but obviously a bit concerning that we created basically nothing despite Aneke's performance up front.
I can see Smyth and Aneke linking well together, I just worry a bit if Aneke wants to drop deep and hold up the ball and dribble with it, and Smyth wants to run out wide who is going to be in the box to score goals for us. Hopefully Maddison I guess. Bogle looked promising in his short stint too though so maybe he can be more of a goal scorer than Aneke.
I can see why Palace held onto Innis so long as he is an absolute monster if it clicks for him. Gunter just looks like someone you just won't have to worry about for the most part which is promising too.
Chuks won most of the headers and his control on the ball was excellent. My MoM. Not sure why Pratley is getting so much criticism; he covered a lot of ground and carried out his normal spoiling role pretty well I thought. Inniss and Famewo were really good and Inniss has every chance of becoming our new cult hero. We are on the up!
Enjoyed the game, not often I've said that since we went online only. All the new guys contributed: Inniss looks solid, Smyth energetic, Shinnie moved the ball a lot, Gunter experienced and a good reader, Bogle showed promise. Watson the only one who didn't look that good and we won't miss him when he picks up his inevitable suspension after 2 more games. Still time for him to improve though, hopefully this is just him being behind on fitness. Pleased JFC scored, though the goalie should have done better. Is he out best left sided set piece taker? Aneke looked a real handful, looking forward to more of this sort of play from him. For once the sh** ref worked more in our favour, though I doubt Doughty would agree after the headbutt that went unpunished. Still some way to go before it evens itself up IMO as the fans of bigger clubs who always get the rub of the green like to pretend.
The general problem with Pratley is how slowly he moves the ball in transitions and how poor his choice of pass is. There are frequent opportunities for us to break with a quick pass but he doesn't release it fast enough and quite often it's the wrong one. He gets it, slows it down, sends it sideways and now the opposition are back and have regrouped.
He is good at breaking up play and winning the second ball. The question is, with Watson in the side, do we need two Pratley's? I believe when we play weaker sides who will sit back, Bowyer will opt to play Levitt or Williams there, so we can have a bit more craft and guile in unlocking defences. I suppose it's not a bad shout to have an extra ball winner in midfield against a tough side like Wigan.
Aneke was my man of the match but I just can’t see him being our main goal threat this season. He holds it up pretty well. Wins a few decent flick ons but his style is lumbering and that’s not meant to be an insult. He’s not got enough explosive qualities needed to get 10 - 12 goals a season never mind 20. Can’t see him partnering Bogle either. I’m sure we tried for another mobile striker but I still feel we won’t score enough goals to get promoted.
Happy enough with the three points and the knowledge that things are only going to get better. Yes, it was scrappy at times but all these new players need time to gel. Will have a better idea of where we are heading by the end of the month. special mention for Chuks, JFC and Inniss.
With Gilbey and Maddison out that was a good win even though not pleasing on the eye. In time the team, will play more on the front foot, and be more pro active in attacking play. It's acceptable to go defensive against Leeds and Brentford at the Valley when 1-0 but this is going to be a real grind if we do it against Rochdale and Northampton etc.
Pratley and Watson in the same team is problematic, and we need a better blend of youth and experience in the side.
The international break affected the starting 11 yesterday. We must play two up top in this division, with crosses from the wing. The "20 goal" striker is unlikely to be found so the goals will be shared out; two goals in 3 home games will have to improve unless the plan is to grind out one nils.
The group of strangers which is our squad will need to find cohesion ASAP.
Aneke was my man of the match but I just can’t see him being our main goal threat this season. He holds it up pretty well. Wins a few decent flick ons but his style is lumbering and that’s not meant to be an insult. He’s not got enough explosive qualities needed to get 10 - 12 goals a season never mind 20. Can’t see him partnering Bogle either. I’m sure we tried for another mobile striker but I still feel we won’t score enough goals to get promoted.
I would tend to agree on the 'lumbering' comment because it always seems to look that way. But on closer inspection you can see Chucks is pretty quick when running with the ball, maybe that's because it would take a brave defender to try to stop him!
We have a relatively easy run of games now, so the ideal time for the new players to settle in
With the quantity of games coming up, I imagine players will be rotated for fitness and conditioning reasons as much as for what they bring on the pitch
Aneke was my man of the match but I just can’t see him being our main goal threat this season. He holds it up pretty well. Wins a few decent flick ons but his style is lumbering and that’s not meant to be an insult. He’s not got enough explosive qualities needed to get 10 - 12 goals a season never mind 20. Can’t see him partnering Bogle either. I’m sure we tried for another mobile striker but I still feel we won’t score enough goals to get promoted.
I would tend to agree on the 'lumbering' comment because it always seems to look that way. But on closer inspection you can see Chucks is pretty quick when running with the ball, maybe that's because it would take a brave defender to try to stop him!
Thing is I really like Chuks. He’s got bags of ability but a number nine he’s not. My feeling is that our defence is key to any success this season. If we can become difficult to beat then we might just grind out enough wins to reach the playoffs. Sandgaard wanted to see 4 - 3 wins not 1 - 0 wins. I’m willing to bet he won’t see many games when we score 4.
Aneke was my man of the match but I just can’t see him being our main goal threat this season. He holds it up pretty well. Wins a few decent flick ons but his style is lumbering and that’s not meant to be an insult. He’s not got enough explosive qualities needed to get 10 - 12 goals a season never mind 20. Can’t see him partnering Bogle either. I’m sure we tried for another mobile striker but I still feel we won’t score enough goals to get promoted.
I would tend to agree on the 'lumbering' comment because it always seems to look that way. But on closer inspection you can see Chucks is pretty quick when running with the ball, maybe that's because it would take a brave defender to try to stop him!
Thing is I really like Chuks. He’s got bags of ability but a number nine he’s not. My feeling is that our defence is key to any success this season. If we can become difficult to beat then we might just grind out enough wins to reach the playoffs. Sandgaard wanted to see 4 - 3 wins not 1 - 0 wins. I’m willing to bet he won’t see many games when we score 4.
True - but he'll be overjoyed if we go up with only 1-0 wins. Let's hope we don't have to rely on goal difference!
Aneke was my man of the match but I just can’t see him being our main goal threat this season. He holds it up pretty well. Wins a few decent flick ons but his style is lumbering and that’s not meant to be an insult. He’s not got enough explosive qualities needed to get 10 - 12 goals a season never mind 20. Can’t see him partnering Bogle either. I’m sure we tried for another mobile striker but I still feel we won’t score enough goals to get promoted.
I would tend to agree on the 'lumbering' comment because it always seems to look that way. But on closer inspection you can see Chucks is pretty quick when running with the ball, maybe that's because it would take a brave defender to try to stop him!
Thing is I really like Chuks. He’s got bags of ability but a number nine he’s not. My feeling is that our defence is key to any success this season. If we can become difficult to beat then we might just grind out enough wins to reach the playoffs. Sandgaard wanted to see 4 - 3 wins not 1 - 0 wins. I’m willing to bet he won’t see many games when we score 4.
Too early to say for me. We've yet to see the team come together. Yet to see the effect Maddison has on the team and everyone at full fitness and gelled. Yet to see Bogle or Smyth given a run. A lot of unknowns remain.
When it all comes together our attacking play might look a lot different. And to be fair, compared to the Sunderland game where we didn't register a shot and barely even made it into their final third, it's already made some strides.
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Classic case of Charltonitis. Was fine to play the two seasons before he came to us!
A rollercoaster of a game , non stop action and one you couldn't take your eyes off for a minute.
Scrappy at times but also some sublime moves from both sides contributing to an entertaining match.
For me, Chuks had a blinder , young Smyth was our new Duracell Bunny and apart from the disappointing Watson , the rest of our lads put in a decent shift for a group that have barely trained together thus far.
Really pleased for JFC with his match winning strike and so hope he's able to keep fit this season.
So, onwards and upwards with a squad most League 1 teams must surely envy under a gaffer who has performed miracles on a shoestring budget
in the past.
What's not to like !
Love it.
Watson and Pratley in the same team love it less.
Pratley is the skipper at the moment, has seniority in my view.
What was that thing when the ref made those two parallel lines a couple of yards apart, after an injury I believe?
Garner is a nasty piece of work and as a self confessed vicious, vengeful footballer myself I saw exactly what he was up to with the Doughty head injury and that was cheap. I'm glad he didn't score or give us further reason to make him a hate figure. Which is a shame because he is a good player
We again got a shit, inconsistent referee. I feel vindicated when I moan about the referee when we win but he was a disaster on another day he costs us.
Aneke was fantastic and put in the performance I knew he had in him. Forster Caskey had the best game I remember seeing him involved with, deserved his goal for not giving up on the free kicks
Should go without saying there is a lot of gelling needs to happen but I'll say it anyway. The players who came on seemed very keen and now we have a squad and actual competition for places rather than getting picked for not being on crutches.
Doughty is a really intelligent footballer I'm really glad we still have him.
Famewo again did not put a foot wrong, Norwich must have some amazing centre halves to not need him
Gunter defended excellently
Shinnie is not a complicated player, gets the ball forward and I can see why he was such a key part of Lutons side, I like him from what I saw today
Overall we played well especially whilst learning to play together. We were good for the win, had a bit of luck and have the makings of a competitive side
When Pearce returns to full fitness we look to be well covered at centre half
All the new guys contributed: Inniss looks solid, Smyth energetic, Shinnie moved the ball a lot, Gunter experienced and a good reader, Bogle showed promise. Watson the only one who didn't look that good and we won't miss him when he picks up his inevitable suspension after 2 more games. Still time for him to improve though, hopefully this is just him being behind on fitness.
Pleased JFC scored, though the goalie should have done better. Is he out best left sided set piece taker? Aneke looked a real handful, looking forward to more of this sort of play from him.
For once the sh** ref worked more in our favour, though I doubt Doughty would agree after the headbutt that went unpunished. Still some way to go before it evens itself up IMO as the fans of bigger clubs who always get the rub of the green like to pretend.
Luckily him and aneke linked up well
He is good at breaking up play and winning the second ball. The question is, with Watson in the side, do we need two Pratley's? I believe when we play weaker sides who will sit back, Bowyer will opt to play Levitt or Williams there, so we can have a bit more craft and guile in unlocking defences. I suppose it's not a bad shout to have an extra ball winner in midfield against a tough side like Wigan.
special mention for Chuks, JFC and Inniss.
In time the team, will play more on the front foot, and be more pro active in attacking play. It's acceptable to go defensive against Leeds and Brentford at the Valley when 1-0 but this is going to be a real grind if we do it against Rochdale and Northampton etc.
Pratley and Watson in the same team is problematic, and we need a better blend of youth and experience in the side.
The international break affected the starting 11 yesterday. We must play two up top in this division, with crosses from the wing.
The "20 goal" striker is unlikely to be found so the goals will be shared out; two goals in 3 home games will have to improve unless the plan is to grind out one nils.
The group of strangers which is our squad will need to find cohesion ASAP.
On to Blackpool.
I would tend to agree on the 'lumbering' comment because it always seems to look that way. But on closer inspection you can see Chucks is pretty quick when running with the ball, maybe that's because it would take a brave defender to try to stop him!
With the quantity of games coming up, I imagine players will be rotated for fitness and conditioning reasons as much as for what they bring on the pitch
True - but he'll be overjoyed if we go up with only 1-0 wins. Let's hope we don't have to rely on goal difference!
When it all comes together our attacking play might look a lot different. And to be fair, compared to the Sunderland game where we didn't register a shot and barely even made it into their final third, it's already made some strides.